D-Link Forums

The Graveyard - Products No Longer Supported => Routers / COVR => DIR-655 => Topic started by: rckid1 on January 14, 2010, 04:19:32 PM

Title: Isn't wireless N supposed to have better range?
Post by: rckid1 on January 14, 2010, 04:19:32 PM
I just picked up one of these, and get less of a signal in my outbuilding i bought it to try and get net in than I do from my quest wireless g router, what gives?  power is on high and router is located in same location as qwest unit (which is branded 2wire)
Title: Re: Isn't wireless N supposed to have better range?
Post by: EddieZ on January 14, 2010, 08:26:00 PM
Since mimo works a bit different than G you might need to play around with the antennas.
Title: Re: Isn't wireless N supposed to have better range?
Post by: lotacus on January 15, 2010, 01:22:25 PM
When I hear that you had a G router, I am guessing you are migrating to N for the range, but now i'm guessing that you didn't bother upgrading your client to support wireless N? You need a client that supports multiple pathways ie: a wireless N card to take advantage of it.

When I had my dir 655 up and running I noticed a difference in attainable range, however you will have to expect link quality and coexistant, throughput, to deminish the farther away you are from the AP. So don't expect 300Mbit connection down the block. most likely only get 2Mbit, of course depending on how big your block is.
Title: Re: Isn't wireless N supposed to have better range?
Post by: rckid1 on January 15, 2010, 02:40:02 PM
I did ugrade to a dlink xtreme n I think 455 card its a three antenna desktop card, what about proximity with the other router? Could they be too close?
Title: Re: Isn't wireless N supposed to have better range?
Post by: lotacus on January 15, 2010, 02:53:34 PM
Well, I use Xirrus Wifi inspector to get an idea of the wireless access points around mine and what channel they operate on. I know there is another program out there that does something similar, its name escapes me at the moment. You could install one of these programs and see what other AP's are in the area and what channel they are operating on. This also allowed me to test the signal strength with antenna placement. I still haven't decided though, if I should be trusting what the router reports as the signal strength, what windows reports, or what Xirrus reports. I suppose I always go with what reports the strongest connection, just to satisfy my need for improvment. LOL.

Sometimes changing that can solve some minor issues. As well, antenna placement seems to make an impact. I remember a couple times trying to get a 300Mbit connection and for the life of me I couldn't. Everything met the requirements. Then I played with the positions of the antenna and bingo!. With me, even the slightest adjustment to the antenna would either be met with grief or with joy. Some recommend and antenna placement like so:  \ | / but in my case I could only be happy with some unconventional antenna placement that resembled something close to /\| or /|\. I suppose it all depends on the location of the computer and router and how the room is shapped.

Title: Re: Isn't wireless N supposed to have better range?
Post by: rckid1 on January 15, 2010, 03:37:08 PM
Hmmmmm well as for channel I don't think that will have much affect as I live in BFE and there are no other wireless signals anywhere near here, as for screwing with the antenna I guess I will give that a shot with the program you suggested and see what results I get.  Also just as a side note I am trying to shoot right at 300 ft outdoors, so through two windows(out one in the other).
Title: Re: Isn't wireless N supposed to have better range?
Post by: ozzed3 on January 16, 2010, 05:02:34 AM
Positioning the antennas correctly might help. you should position the middle antenna perfectly perpendicular, and then the other two at 45 degrees apart from the middle one. Failing to do so will cause the signal to bounce between the antennas, causing suboptimal speed.
Title: Re: Isn't wireless N supposed to have better range?
Post by: belcebuu on January 16, 2010, 07:08:28 AM
Positioning the antennas correctly might help. you should position the middle antenna perfectly perpendicular, and then the other two at 45 degrees apart from the middle one. Failing to do so will cause the signal to bounce between the antennas, causing suboptimal speed.

could you attach a pic? thanks
Title: Re: Isn't wireless N supposed to have better range?
Post by: ozzed3 on January 16, 2010, 07:57:27 AM
(http://support.dlink.com/faq/faq_images/dir625/3015/1.jpg)
Title: Re: Isn't wireless N supposed to have better range?
Post by: lizzi555 on January 16, 2010, 09:10:29 AM
Hmmmmm well as for channel I don't think that will have much affect as I live in BFE and there are no other wireless signals anywhere near here, ...

There are a lot of wireless devices working in the 2.4 GHz range.
Starting with some wireless phones, home video transmitters, surveillance systems and so on.

So changing channel might help even if there is no other wireless network.
Title: Re: Isn't wireless N supposed to have better range?
Post by: rckid1 on January 17, 2010, 12:33:24 PM
I will play with the frequency some more than I guess I know our phones are 5.8ghz but we do have some neighbors also looks like my outter antennas may not be sloped steeply enough so I'll try moving them as well.
Title: Re: Isn't wireless N supposed to have better range?
Post by: ozzed3 on January 17, 2010, 01:02:52 PM
http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=10509.0 (http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=10509.0) This is all I know that might help and isn't that difficult to do.
Title: Re: Isn't wireless N supposed to have better range?
Post by: rckid1 on January 18, 2010, 12:16:08 AM
Thanks for all the help everyone I seem to have a good connection now, I set both the router and adapter antennas up as shown in the diagram, and moved my graphics card so the DVI cable wasn't running between the antennas on the PCI card and I seem to have a good signal we will see if it stays reliable, thanks again!
Title: Re: Isn't wireless N supposed to have better range?
Post by: JimMonz on January 18, 2010, 01:53:30 PM
Try InSSIDer

http://www.metageek.net/products/inssider

See what is in the area and signal strengths. You can then adjust your antennae.

Hope this helps.