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The Graveyard - Products No Longer Supported => D-Link Storage => DNS-323 => Topic started by: perfectdark on February 21, 2010, 03:55:50 PM
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can we now connect a usb hard drive to the dns-323 usb port and use shareport to detect it? i tried and the dns-323 sees the 1tb usb drive but my windows shareport program doesnt detect anything
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I actually would like some shareport info as well, I need to use the USB port so i can finally hook up an external USB HD device. I see the shareport app and have it installed on my client pc, however it does not see the 323. I suspect this is due in part to no shareport server running on the DNS-323 istelf, making the app useless? Will there be apkg I can install on my DNS-323 to open the functionality of shareport?
If I could get a usb HD running on my DNS so i dont have to copy my large files over the network it would save me ALOT of time. and i would be mega happy (yup... mega)
Oh, big thanks to D-Link on fw1.08, I appreciate they continue to develop software for my device.
Tank
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I actually got a sweet PM from another esteemed forum member. He inidicates the apkg is not yet avail on the US site and provided this link to the UK site.
http://www.dlink.co.uk/cs/Satellite?c=Product_C&childpagename=DLinkEurope-GB%2FDLTechProduct&cid=1197319419183&p=1197318962147&packedargs=OuickLinksParentID%3D1197319419183%26locale%3D1195806691854%26packedargs%3Df9ffeaf4e83ab6d0166b8cc93b23ebbc3d83540f46ceb58f26706558f9479c4ec3df1411a95e2d40408dd10d521d1d3f7fdfe55b2d17e536c709295fb15158a0&pagename=DLinkEurope-GB%2FDLWrapper (http://www.dlink.co.uk/cs/Satellite?c=Product_C&childpagename=DLinkEurope-GB%2FDLTechProduct&cid=1197319419183&p=1197318962147&packedargs=OuickLinksParentID%3D1197319419183%26locale%3D1195806691854%26packedargs%3Df9ffeaf4e83ab6d0166b8cc93b23ebbc3d83540f46ceb58f26706558f9479c4ec3df1411a95e2d40408dd10d521d1d3f7fdfe55b2d17e536c709295fb15158a0&pagename=DLinkEurope-GB%2FDLWrapper)
also I found it on their FTP
ftp://ftp.dlink.co.uk/dns_nas/DNS-323/V1.08%20SWPackage/Add-ons/DNS-323%20KCodes%20Package%20v1.00_08182009(BETA)/ (ftp://ftp.dlink.co.uk/dns_nas/DNS-323/V1.08%20SWPackage/Add-ons/DNS-323%20KCodes%20Package%20v1.00_08182009(BETA)/)
Thanks anonymous tipster!
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I actually got a sweet PM from another esteemed forum member. He inidicates the apkg is not yet avail on the US site and provided this link to the UK site.
And, or course, he would be wrong. From the US FTP site:
File:dns323_shareport_utility_V30_MAC.zip 4643 KB 2/17/2010 11:54:00 PM
File:dns323_shareport_utility_V30_PC.zip 5598 KB 2/18/2010 12:30:00 AM
Sure looks available to me.
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And, or course, he would be wrong. From the US FTP site:
File:dns323_shareport_utility_V30_MAC.zip 4643 KB 2/17/2010 11:54:00 PM
File:dns323_shareport_utility_V30_PC.zip 5598 KB 2/18/2010 12:30:00 AM
Sure looks available to me.
Those appear to be the Shareport utility for the PC/Mac side - I think what's missing from the US site is the Shareport APKG, - or are the APKGs included there also?
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Interesting question, I thought that was included in the base 1.08 firmware, perhaps I was mistaken? Perhaps we need D-Link to clarify what is required?
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Well - I'm not running the "base 1.08" firmware - but I understand that it is essentially the same as the 1.09 beta - which is what I'm running, and the utility reports no device servers found.
Edit...
Perhaps I should rephrase that -1.09 contains all code up to 1.08b09 - so if Shareport is built in to the base 1.08, it should also be in the 1.09 beta.
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I guess we are indeed missing something, that seems like a pretty significant oversight on D-Link's part! ???
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I just downloaded and installed the shareport package from the UK link (since yes its not on the US link) I can now see shareport in the add-ons section of the dns-323 and i started it. But the shareport application on my windows PC doesn't detect anything. Under status in the dns-323 web gui it sees the USB hard drive ... so do we assume this doesn't work? Any one from DLink able to update us here?
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I think I'll wait for some folks to get this working. I can't afford to break my print server function for the DNS-323 right now, the laptops all print to that printer.
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Did one of the moderator said to NOT Download the UK version of Shareport has its not the same has the North America ?
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Yep, that was stated a while back...
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Just deleted it .. so where is the North American version?
But remember, D-Link tech support level 3 also told me , when i couldn't access (access denied) one of my folders on my DNS-323 to just delete the folder .... and how do you delete afolder you have no access too? So i don't 100% trust D-Link tech support
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Trust, then verify. :D
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just got off the phone with level 3 tech support (in reagrds to a different issue) but i asked them about shreport and the uk shareport file for the dns-323
They were honest and said they are not 100% sure that it was rolled out for US/CAN yet. He will check and call me back within 24-36hrs . If i hear back, i will update here
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Shareport is not build in 1.08 - it caomes as apkg.
UK shareport version is the older one working with shareport util 1.14(1.15) which was also used in the older DIR firmwares and is still used in european DIR- routers
US shareport will be the newer apkg which works with the same 1.10 shareport client the recent DIR routers in US use.
Up to now the us shareport apkg is missing. Only the clients are on the ftp.
So don't mix it up. If you already use shareport with a DIR router you should install the appropriate shareport apkg to get both work, router and NAS.
Up to now I tested the UK version with one of my DIR-655 (european firmware 1.31) and they worked together. I could choose between the different hosts. As soon as the US version is available I will it out.
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Yeah call me a goober for not verifying what packages went up last week. I just realised the web team didn't upload the APKG for SharePort so that would explain the confusion. It wll be up today asap.
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Awesome, Thank you.
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thanks, so are you confirming that with this shareport we can use any usb printer or usb external hard drive?
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thanks, so are you confirming that with this shareport we can use any usb printer or usb external hard drive?
SharePort is capable of connecting pretty much any usb device. You do need to understand that this a direct connection to the device from your PC though. this means although you can hookup a USB external hard drive only you could connect to it and see the content. The DNS-323 can not see the USB drive information.
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Hmmm what would you use this utility for then? ???
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Damn it! I wanted to copy files directly from my DNS to the USB HD and NOT pull them over the network.
oh well :(
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Any ETA for the APKG for SharePort?
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Hmmm what would you use this utility for then? ???
To SHARE the USB PORT.
Just as an example - one of the shortcomings of USB print servers is that they typically will only work in one direction, printing only, and if your printer is one of the very common all-in-one, printer-scanner-copier multifunction systems, you lose the scan functionality.
Conceptually Shareport should allow you to treat the USB port as if it was attached to your computer via the network cable - computer_#1 reserves the port and can scan or print, just as if the printer was directly attached, and when computer_#1 releases the port, it's available for use by any of the other computers on the network - one at a time.
This is distinctly different to how a print server operates - where the print jobs are sent by the hosts and queued by the print server - if computer_#1 sends a print job, for the same of discussion 10 pages long, and whilst those 10 pages are being printed, computer_#2 sends a second print job, computer_#2 should not be told that the printer is not available, the server should accept the job and hold it until the first print job is complete.
With Shareport you should be able to share pretty much anything that has a USB connection - printers, scanners, cameras, storage
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To SHARE the USB PORT.
Just as an example - one of the shortcomings of USB print servers is that they typically will only work in one direction, printing only, and if your printer is one of the very common all-in-one, printer-scanner-copier multifunction systems, you lose the scan functionality.
Conceptually Shareport should allow you to treat the USB port as if it was attached to your computer via the network cable - computer_#1 reserves the port and can scan or print, just as if the printer was directly attached, and when computer_#1 releases the port, it's available for use by any of the other computers on the network - one at a time.
This is distinctly different to how a print server operates - where the print jobs are sent by the hosts and queued by the print server - if computer_#1 sends a print job, for the same of discussion 10 pages long, and whilst those 10 pages are being printed, computer_#2 sends a second print job, computer_#2 should not be told that the printer is not available, the server should accept the job and hold it until the first print job is complete.
With Shareport you should be able to share pretty much anything that has a USB connection - printers, scanners, cameras, storage
According to what D-Link Multimedia said a few posts up in this thread, this is not the case with the 323 tho at least as far as an external usb drive is concerned. Unless I misunderstood his explanation.
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According to what D-Link Multimedia said a few posts up in this thread, this is not the case with the 323 tho. Unless I misunderstood his explanation.
Is this what you're referring to?
SharePort is capable of connecting pretty much any usb device. You do need to understand that this a direct connection to the device from your PC though. this means although you can hookup a USB external hard drive only you could connect to it and see the content. The DNS-323 can not see the USB drive information.
Because if it is - I think you mistunderstood either his or my explanation.
Essentially the difference between the explanations is that he doesn't mention sharing and I do - and I know that in my explanation I pointed out that "shared port" can only be used by one computer on the network at a time - maybe it's time to re-read the explanations carefully.
Another suggestion - download the Shareport utility and install it and then click on help and have a read - may that'll give you a better explanation than I can.
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Yeah call me a goober for not verifying what packages went up last week. I just realised the web team didn't upload the APKG for SharePort so that would explain the confusion. It wll be up today asap.
Well, it is after your work hours today. (Unless you are in Hawaii or Guam) I still do not see th APKG for SharePort. Maybe I am looking in the wrong place? I was looking in the "additional downloads" for the DNS 323.
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Well, it is after your work hours today. (Unless you are in Hawaii or Guam) I still do not see th APKG for SharePort. Maybe I am looking in the wrong place? I was looking in the "additional downloads" for the DNS 323.
What's this from the US FTP site?
Look here: ftp://ftp.dlink.com/Multimedia/dns323/Apps/
Isn't this the app? dns323_shareport_package_100.zip
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It is up now. Just plugged in my Epson 2200 printer. Now My wife can use it from her computer without my computer being on. Works like a charm!
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Sure would be nice if the USB port could connect directly to the DNS-323. That way you could backup your data from the DNS-323 to an external hard drive without using a computer. There have been a lot of request for this but apparently it is not high on D-Link's list. For me this is the only use for this port since I have network printers.
I know that I can use my computer to do this but would it be nice to have it take care of it by itself? It would use a lot less energy than using a system for this purpose. Maybe an app that would do it?
Terry
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I don't understand this
I google'd dns-323 usb port external hard drive and if you install fun_plug and a usb driver you can mount an external hard drive, and use it as another mapped shared drive. So why can't d-link make this work
anyway, I installed shreport v100 and my PC shareport software now detects my 1TB external usb drive but when i try to connect it's a windows message appears telling me that if i want to use this drive i need to format it ??? why? Its already been formated and now has allot of my data on it, so why does it have to be formated again? doesn't sound right
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I agree. That's what I don't understand. Just having an available port at the end of my network is of very little use to me. Simpler to just use the usbs on my PC or hang a usb hub on my PC if I need ports. It is much faster that way. ???
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I'm guessing that installing the Sharepoint app will disallow the usage of the internal print server, correct? I'm guessing it would also prevent you from using the UPS sensing as well?
I have also never seen an answer to the question of connecting multiple devices using a USB hub to this port. Say I wanted to connect two printers for use throughout the network, would that work?
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hey gunrunner ...
i seen a post somewhere, can't find it now where dlink says it will work but that is not the intended use for the port ... so yes it should work according to dlink
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Which part of my question was that referring to?
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I don't understand this
I google'd dns-323 usb port external hard drive and if you install fun_plug and a usb driver you can mount an external hard drive, and use it as another mapped shared drive. So why can't d-link make this work
They probably could - but that's not what Shareport is intended to do.
D-Link marketing will make their own decisions based not only on what they think the market wants, but also on how they choose to segregate the products.
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I agree. That's what I don't understand. Just having an available port at the end of my network is of very little use to me. Simpler to just use the usbs on my PC or hang a usb hub on my PC if I need ports. It is much faster that way. ???
You're still missing the point of the SHAREport - which makes me wonder - how many computers and users are there in your house?
Just as an example do you have a scanner or an all-in-one printer that includes a scanner?
What do you do if the scanner is attached to your computer and someone else needs to scan a document?
Without Shareport you either let the other person have access to your computer, which means interrupting what you are doing - or you connect the scanner to their computer, or you buy another scanner.
With Shareport - you can plug the scanner into the DNS-323 and you can both use it - one at a time.
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You're still missing the point of the SHAREport - which makes me wonder - how many computers and users are there in your house?
Just as an example do you have a scanner or an all-in-one printer that includes a scanner?
What do you do if the scanner is attached to your computer and someone else needs to scan a document?
Without Shareport you either let the other person have access to your computer, which means interrupting what you are doing - or you connect the scanner to their computer, or you buy another scanner.
With Shareport - you can plug the scanner into the DNS-323 and you can both use it - one at a time.
Just a single user here but I do have multiple devices on my network other than printers/scanners. I understand your point - it appears my interpretation of the sw is out of whack. Thanks for the explanation.
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They probably could - but that's not what Shareport is intended to do.
D-Link marketing will make their own decisions based not only on what they think the market wants, but also on how they choose to segregate the products.
Then obviously D-Link is not listening to the market, since and correct me if I'm wrong, the mass majority would like this USB port to be activated to allow USB external hard drives that can be mapped the same as the 2 internal VOL_1 & VOL_2 bays. A shareport is not a bad idea, but it only allows 1 user at a time which defeats the one purpose. For example with a printer. I print, while my wife waits upstairs for me to finish and then she prints. it would almost save more time for here to transfer the print document to my PC and print everything from the one PC. And in that case the Printer can be connected directly to the 1 PC, so why a shareport? And for a USB Hard Drive (still not understanding why it is telling me i have to format mine and lose my data, unless its because its NTFS) what's the point on having an external hard drive that only 1 user can access? Shareport sounds good in theory but in actual real life it's pretty useless.
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While I agree with much of the criticism of Shareport, I have to point out an inaccuracy.
You can both print, the Shareport software on your machine manages the printer connection automatically. It should work just like a locally connected USB printer as far as your computer is concerned.
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Then obviously D-Link is not listening to the market, since and correct me if I'm wrong, the mass majority would like this USB port to be activated to allow USB external hard drives that can be mapped the same as the 2 internal VOL_1 & VOL_2 bays. A shareport is not a bad idea, but it only allows 1 user at a time which defeats the one purpose. For example with a printer. I print, while my wife waits upstairs for me to finish and then she prints. it would almost save more time for here to transfer the print document to my PC and print everything from the one PC. And in that case the Printer can be connected directly to the 1 PC, so why a shareport? And for a USB Hard Drive (still not understanding why it is telling me i have to format mine and lose my data, unless its because its NTFS) what's the point on having an external hard drive that only 1 user can access? Shareport sounds good in theory but in actual real life it's pretty useless.
What mass majority are you referring to exactly? The forums? Please keep in mind only a FRACTION of the sales of our units ever show up as users on the forums. Normally the most techy end up here but not your ever day mom&dad that need to share their printer/drive/etc over the network with their house hold. They want it to be simple and with very little work needed to share out these USB devices and that is exactly what SharePort does.
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What mass majority are you referring to exactly? The forums? Please keep in mind only a FRACTION of the sales of our units ever show up as users on the forums. Normally the most techy end up here but not your ever day mom&dad that need to share their printer/drive/etc over the network with their house hold. They want it to be simple and with very little work needed to share out these USB devices and that is exactly what SharePort does.
Understood... I stand corrected ;)
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A shareport is not a bad idea, but it only allows 1 user at a time which defeats the one purpose. For example with a printer. I print, while my wife waits upstairs for me to finish and then she prints. it would almost save more time for here to transfer the print document to my PC and print everything from the one PC. And in that case the Printer can be connected directly to the 1 PC, so why a shareport?
As gunrunnerjohn pointed out - the shareport allows for a printer to be shared automatically - but even if that were not so, using the shareport to manually select & deselect which computer is connected to the printer is quicker and more convenient than transferring the file or physically disconnecting & reconnecting the printer.
In the case of a physical disconnect/reconnect - someone is going to have to get up out of their chair and move the printer from one location to another - I don't think there is going to be any debate on time & effort saved there - so let's look at transferring the document.
You're in the middle of doing whatever you're doing - surfing the net - and she calls you and says "Honey, print this for me" and you have to stop what you're doing, open up Word or whatever and print it - and then go back to what you were doing.
There is a whole market segment built around printservers - just to make that particular interruption go away.
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FWIW, I've used the built-in print server on the DNS-323 for over a year, and I've very happy with it. The capability I would like to see is the ability to continue to use this print server as is and connect a USB hard disk for secondary backup using a USB hub. Shareport doesn't really do it for me.
I'm curious about one thing with Shareport. Has anyone actually connected a USB hard disk to this unit and done some benchmarks? I have a Belkin Network USB Hub F5L009 which does basically what Shareport does and includes a bunch of USB interfaces. The only issue is that it's pretty slow. The printer support worked fine, but USB access was about 4-5mbytes/sec, less than 1/4 of what I'd get with a direct connection. I'm wondering if this hardware/software combo offers better performance.
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FWIW, I've used the built-in print server on the DNS-323 for over a year, and I've very happy with it. The capability I would like to see is the ability to continue to use this print server as is and connect a USB hard disk for secondary backup using a USB hub. Shareport doesn't really do it for me.
I'm curious about one thing with Shareport. Has anyone actually connected a USB hard disk to this unit and done some benchmarks? I have a Belkin Network USB Hub F5L009 which does basically what Shareport does and includes a bunch of USB interfaces. The only issue is that it's pretty slow. The printer support worked fine, but USB access was about 4-5mbytes/sec, less than 1/4 of what I'd get with a direct connection. I'm wondering if this hardware/software combo offers better performance.
I conencted a USB hard drive to the shareport and i can see it with the shareport utility on my PC, but when i try to connect to it, it says i have to format the drive.. do you know why? is it because its NTFS
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Well, if the USB emulation was perfect, it would connect to NTFS drives. FWIW, that Belkin Network USB Hub F5L009 that I mentioned had no issues accessing NTFS formatted USB drives, so it's possible. :)
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NTFS should not matter at all as the SharePort is just a passthrough.... Does it work when directly connected to that PC without the need to format?
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I conencted a USB hard drive to the shareport and i can see it with the shareport utility on my PC, but when i try to connect to it, it says i have to format the drive.. do you know why? is it because its NTFS
I currently have a USB/S-ATA/P-ATA interface plugged into the USB port and an old laptop drive plugged into that - it's NTFS formatted and I can access it with no difficulty from a Win7Pro system on the network.
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Will there ever be plans to allow the software to directly copy from DNS to USB HDD? I havent ffp'd my DNS. Perhaps its time.
Thanks to DLINK for the response on this thread.
Tank
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And, or course, he would be wrong. From the US FTP site:
File:dns323_shareport_utility_V30_MAC.zip 4643 KB 2/17/2010 11:54:00 PM
File:dns323_shareport_utility_V30_PC.zip 5598 KB 2/18/2010 12:30:00 AM
Sure looks available to me.
Under what folder? I looked under storage and usb and a few others, but didn't find them.
Thanks....
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This is the Shareport "server app" that needs to be installed on the DNS-323.
ftp://ftp.dlink.com/Multimedia/dns323/Apps/dns323_shareport_package_100.zip (http://ftp://ftp.dlink.com/Multimedia/dns323/Apps/dns323_shareport_package_100.zip)
This is the Shareport "client" that goes on the PC.
ftp://ftp.dlink.com/Multimedia/dns323/Apps/dns323_shareport_utility_V30_PC.zip (http://ftp://ftp.dlink.com/Multimedia/dns323/Apps/dns323_shareport_utility_V30_PC.zip)
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Thanks for clarification.......
I had downloaded both of those just before my last post, and was hoping there might be some explanation of what each one did. But I just checked and saw there isn't any.
Is the DNS-323 package compatible with version 1.07, or should I upgrade first to 1.09. I have that sitting in the wings in case I need it.
Thanks,
Joe
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Hello everybody, hi my name is Jose. I am from Spain, so please, be patient with my english.
I have just installed SharePort in my DNS-323 and it is playing. Also I have installed the SharePort Utility in my brandnew MacMini (with Mac OSX Lion).
After all, I can see in the application that my device is recognize and connected.
But here is the problem I can not see it anywhere.
If I open Finder I only see my NAS (DNS-323), but I can not see the device anywhere.
There is a way to see it? It could be a problem with the File System Format?
Please if someone have a Mac, could you tell how you did it?
Thanks for all.
Jose