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The Graveyard - Products No Longer Supported => Routers / COVR => DGL-4500 => Topic started by: BTRY B 529th FA BN on September 02, 2010, 02:27:54 PM
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How is the UT3 support these days for PC with this DGL 4500???
I hate to have my PC in the DMZ zone if I don't have to.
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You can set up port forwarding for the game to your host PC in Gaming section of the router. I have mine set up for Diablo an Halo2 for PC.
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Of course I can do that but is there going to be a preset of ports configured in the Gaming section under "Application Name"
Another question, I would like to choke the wireless speed to keep my wired game machine getting the best feed. What do I do? Thanks a bunch :)
529th
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There is 3 presets for UnReal however you can add your own and save them as well I believe. I would follow the Gamefuel sticky if you want to prioritize the gaming of the wired connection. I would set up reserved IP addresses for all your wired and wireless devices and just use gamefuel for the wired devices. It works great. I have a buddy who's got 3 xboxes and one is on wireless, all work great. He helped me with some of the data and user experience in the sticky.
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How much of that Gamefuel stick applies to a PC? I already read the settings are for an XBOX
Another question is I want to add a wired printer, how do I do that?
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It applies to any device. I just happen to use a user experience for xbox as most people on here are interested in game consoles vs PC. Just substitute the xbox for PC if you like. Again I don't prioritized my PCs at home however in your case, you are gaming on PC so this will work just as good for you as for us with game consoles.
For peripherals like printers, if it's got a network wired connection, then just connect it to the router and let it DHCP and get a IP from the router automatically. You can assign an IP if you wish. I have as I have done all my devices to keep IT management clear and detailed. User preference.
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Thanks, got my Gamefuel setup and the DMZ zone disabled now. I thought there would of been more information on the specific ports UT3 uses but it seems it's a wide wide range.
Now, to setup my printer :)
Thanks for your help & time :)
529th
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good to hear..ya, seems the PC games have more ports to deal with than game consoles. LOL. You might have to set up more then one gamefuel rule if you need too. I know, seems like a pain to do. Let us know how it goes.
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Well, i have it setup and my ping jumped from consistent 20's with the DMZ zone enabled to consistent 40's with it disabled : no other players in the server cept me. Will the Gamefuel rule help improve the connection even while the DMZ zone is enabled? I mean will it add better throughput with both enabled?
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it only prioritizes the ports to the PCs that you have set up. Reason it might have jumped up is that it has to process what it's set up to do. If you have the DMZ set up at the same time then your defeating the purpose of the 4500s features and you won't use them. I believe gamefuel at least helps maintain a good and stable connection to what every your trying to connect with. I'm really unsure if it helps with throughput though. Trikein? Any input on this?
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Ok, I kinda thought that but wanted a little re-assurance.
What does the "Measured Uplink Speed" mean? I've seen it jump numbers every-time I have to reboot the modem. I've seen it as high as 7174kbps to 3409kbps... How fast is that anyways?
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Measured uplink speed is what the router is gauging between it and the ISP servers on the upload side. If you know the highest speed your ISP is giving you you can set the router to manual. I set mine to 2048 and I've got a 1Mb up connection. Give me just a bit of over head if needed.
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For some reason I can't get the printer to even be recongized. I think I had manually set the ip to a number below the defaulted 100 - 199 range; like 13 er something... but even after I've completely shut the printer off, taken out the plug, etc. it still won't recognize... It's an HP 6940.. Win7 64
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Is the Printer networking set for AUTO or DHCP?
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it only prioritizes the ports to the PCs that you have set up. Reason it might have jumped up is that it has to process what it's set up to do. If you have the DMZ set up at the same time then your defeating the purpose of the 4500s features and you won't use them. I believe gamefuel at least helps maintain a good and stable connection to what every your trying to connect with. I'm really unsure if it helps with throughput though. Trikein? Any input on this?
Gamefuel is prioritize traffic going through your router. It can, if configured to do so, improve throughput for a certain application, IP or port. This is at the cost of throughput for all other connections though, and the throughput can not be better then the throughput of the weakest chain in the connection from your computer to the game server. And in some cases, lowering your throughput can actually help performance. This is for a number of reasons, from how your ISP handles and prioritizes certain traffic (commonly known as throttling) to the capacity of the server your connecting to. Its like setting the speed limit on your driveway to be 100mph. Sure it gets you to the street faster, but it also increases the time you have to break, can cause accidents or stuff like that.
The real point I would like to make is the different between latency and throughput. Throughput, in terms which are relevant to this discussion, is the amount of data you can transfer in any one set time. Latency is the amount of time it takes it takes for a certain amount of data (32 bytes in most tests) to travel from your computer to the server and back, or at least in reference to the kind of tests most people are talking about when they talk about latency. A good metaphor is like moving to a new house. Throughput is the moving truck, with the focus being on getting as much stuff on the truck as possible, as quickly as possible, and taking the best route to the new house. Latency would be putting the new house into Google maps and seeing what it says for travel time. So yes, latency can be a indicator of a problem with throughput, but improving throughput does not improve latency.
A good test would be to do what is called a traceroute.
http://wiki.ocssolutions.com/How_to_Perform_a_Traceroute
Do one with your PC in the DMZ and do one with your PC out of the DMZ. Then compare the two, and see where the latency is occurring. It may just be when you have the computer in the DMZ, its not throttling the return packet that is returned as part of the test used to measure latency. Think of it as a false negative. You see latency and traceroutes and pings, and all that are actually more complicated then you think, they are just used in the tech world to try to isolate a problem. Where it can lead people astray is when they get obsessed with "getting the best ping" and loose sight on whats actually important; the best possible performance from the application in question.
But your in luck. Seems someone out there actually wrote a scientific paper on "The Effects of Loss and Latency on User Performance in Unreal Tournament 2003" which can be found at:
http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.96.5187&rep=rep1&type=pdf
Theres more info there then you will ever need. Have fun :-)
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Eeeeew, HP printer with Windows 7. I feel your pain. Honestly though thats a better question for the HP forum. You can do it manually, but some HP printers make it a real pain. Try using the CD and installing "drivers only". The CD application has a utility built in that can detect your network settings and configure alot of the more complicated settings automatically. Just if possible, DONT install all the extra stuff HP tried to put on your computer. I can tell you how many times I have see HP Updater screw up people's computers. Blahhhh!
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AWESOME REPLY MAN!! Thanks! :)
I don't know if UT 2003 is the same as UT III/3 though
None the less that was a hell of a post! Haha, thanks alot :)
Cheers,
529th
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Eeeeew, HP printer with Windows 7. I feel your pain. Honestly though thats a better question for the HP forum. You can do it manually, but some HP printers make it a real pain. Try using the CD and installing "drivers only". The CD application has a utility built in that can detect your network settings and configure alot of the more complicated settings automatically. Just if possible, DONT install all the extra stuff HP tried to put on your computer. I can tell you how many times I have see HP Updater screw up people's computers. Blahhhh!
I had it connected with my old Linksys WCG 200 but with my current setup I am running through a Motorola Surfboard "eXtreme Cable Modem" SURFboard 6120 (DOCSIS 3.0) and this here D-Link 4500
It was connected before but the ip address was below the defaulted range, < 100 - i think it was 13. Anyways, I removed the printer device from my computer and it won't detect it. ...
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I got UT 2003, kewl game man...wonder if we could hook up sometime. I think I've got it loaded.
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I would set it up manually...see if you can install the HP Port Monitor, then go in and set up the IP address that is printed on the config page. Once you have the port in Windows, then you can direct Windows to the driver on the CD or updated from the web. Trust me. I know HP Printers. ;D
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Ooooh, do you know HP printers like I know a certian ISP? ::grin::
But yea, manual is best, but sometimes that is easier said then done. Not on the printers end, or the routers end, but certain settings in the computer. If you can help him though, rock on. :D
"DUKE ELLINGSON
Well then, put the ships' ballasts under
manual control.
PLAGUE
There's no such thing anymore, Duke"
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I got it to work. I have the Mac address filter on and I had to find the mac address from the printer and add it manually; all better now :)
And my ping went back down to 20's ...with the computer off or out of the DMZ zone, and with GameFuel setup correctly and on. So it must be something on my isp end or the server end.
I love this new Router!
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kewl, glad to hear you got it working. Ya this is a pretty good router. Havn't had any issues, and feel lucky. I do wish the N 5Ghz wireless was a bit better however Dlink isn' the only one with the problem. ;)
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I think what may have been slowing things down also was WISH was on..
I haven't got UT 2k4 installed. Everyone say it's a great game but I just couldn't get use to it after UT99
You should give UT3 a chance, more and more players are trying it so the community is growing. It's a great game! I ususally play TDM on the Beer Drinkers server or DM
216.52.148.178:7777:6500 .::.Beer Drinkers and Hell Raisers.::. - Chicago 80 tick
216.52.143.150:7777:6500 .::.The Wykydtron's Lair.::. High Tick Performance Chicago DM server (Stable)
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I will get on it this weekend and look for ya if I can. ya, played it a few times at a LAN party I did some years back..had a good time with it. For that time, the graphics sure was better than anything I'd seen. Even xbox.
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SO I got 2003 loaded and the ports added in gaming in the 4500. Does the 2003 game need a purchased user account to play online or what? Never played online with it. Also do I need to install updates for it? I notice I'm getting a authentication fail message when connecting to online game. Ya, I'm a noob at UT2003 LOL. Let me know.