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Title: QoS tagging support?
Post by: alan3885 on August 11, 2008, 08:46:33 PM
I was wondering if the DNS-321 has the QoS tagging support feature and if not could it be added in a future firmware upgrade like the DIR-615 REVB F/W 2.25 with the added QoS engine?
Title: Re: QoS tagging support?
Post by: ECF on August 12, 2008, 10:25:12 AM
What feature are you referring to? QoS should be handled by the QoS engine of the router that supports QoS. A device like this would not need an extra feature as QoS tagging.
Title: Re: QoS tagging support?
Post by: Lycan on August 12, 2008, 11:14:33 AM
802.1Q is traffic shaping and is usually only included in Corporate Hardware.
As for QoS, it's usually on the gateway device and in most cases only affects outbound WAN traffic.
Title: Re: QoS tagging support?
Post by: alan3885 on August 13, 2008, 06:15:08 AM
Is this feature on the DNS-321 or can it be added?
Title: Re: QoS tagging support?
Post by: ECF on August 13, 2008, 08:17:32 AM
alan3885

What feature? Where you referring to 802.1Q in your first post?
Title: Re: QoS tagging support?
Post by: Praxis on August 13, 2008, 10:17:43 AM
The DNS-321 does not come with the QoS feature, just remember that QoS refers to Frame Relay, Asynchronous Transfer Mode (ATM), Ethernet and 802.1 networks, SONET, and IP-routed networks that may use any or all of these underlying technologies. At this point the main idea is to configure your router and your network environment  including dedicated bandwidth, controlled jitter and latency (required by some real-time and interactive traffic), and improved loss characteristics. The DNS-321 will be included in your network with this feature.
Title: Re: QoS tagging support?
Post by: alan3885 on August 16, 2008, 08:48:15 AM
So QoS will be included in the DNS-321 I'm confused?

The DNS-321 does not come with the QoS feature, just remember that QoS refers to Frame Relay, Asynchronous Transfer Mode (ATM), Ethernet and 802.1 networks, SONET, and IP-routed networks that may use any or all of these underlying technologies. At this point the main idea is to configure your router and your network environment  including dedicated bandwidth, controlled jitter and latency (required by some real-time and interactive traffic), and improved loss characteristics. The DNS-321 will be included in your network with this feature.
Title: Re: QoS tagging support?
Post by: Lycan on August 18, 2008, 08:32:17 AM
QoS is a gateway implementation.
Title: Re: QoS tagging support?
Post by: fordem on August 18, 2008, 04:31:38 PM
Actually I think is an interesting question ...

Whilst QoS is usually viewed in a network context as a method of providing priority to certain types of traffic (to guarantee the quality of service), it does have a parallel when considering a NAS such as this one.

With QoS priority is given to - voice and video (interactive media & voice - priority level 5) and streaming multimedia (priority level 4) with business critical coming in at a lower level (priority level 3).

Let's consider a scenario where the AV server is in use - streaming video to whatever device the user has - and a second user starts a file transfer - which of these services will be given priority - the file transfer, the AV server or neither?

My guess is the answer is neither, but is that how it should work?  Would the file transfer take noticeably or (significantly) longer if priority was given to the AV server (both as a process and as traffic overthe LAN port)?

Food for though - eh?

And now a disclaimer - I'm not into multimedia etc., don't use the AV server and in fact, I'm just looking the the original poster's question and guessing as to why he might have asked.
Title: Re: QoS tagging support?
Post by: Lycan on August 19, 2008, 08:48:35 AM
Fact is, we do not offer traffic shaping or QoS on our LAN side devices, unless you're talking about switches. Even then it's a gateway device. As for protocol prioritization, we can ask. Odds are they'll say it's unnecessary.
Title: Re: QoS tagging support?
Post by: alan3885 on August 31, 2008, 08:40:27 AM
I just remembered the Linksys NAS200 has this feature also.
Title: Re: QoS tagging support?
Post by: fordem on August 31, 2008, 01:41:41 PM
I'm thinking you must NOT be talking about QoS as it is normally discussed - I took a look at both the spec sheet and the manual for the NAS200 - the term QoS appears in neither.
Title: Re: QoS tagging support?
Post by: alan3885 on August 31, 2008, 02:47:32 PM
Check out this version info for the Linksys NAS200 version 3.4R75:

3. Updated Media Server with QoS tagging support.

http://www.linksys.com/servlet/Satellite?blobcol=urldata&blobheadername1=Content-Type&blobheadername2=Content-Disposition&blobheadervalue1=text%2Fplain&blobheadervalue2=inline%3B+filename%3DNAS200_Release_Note.txt&blobkey=id&blobtable=MungoBlobs&blobwhere=1193797842739&ssbinary=true&lid=8065067604B11
Title: Re: QoS tagging support?
Post by: jswashburn on August 31, 2008, 10:09:30 PM
Does it really matter when connected to a Gigabit network? I've got two 80GB drives in RAID1 mode. When I ran benchmarked connectivity to and from the drive, I managed to reach 12% maximum usage of it.

If I'm doing the math correctly, 12% o***igabit = 120mbit. Divide that by 8, and we get 15MB (megabyte) per second. Sounds like having the need for QOS is a moot point, is it not?
Title: Re: QoS tagging support?
Post by: ECF on September 02, 2008, 11:30:07 AM
Check out this version info for the Linksys NAS200 version 3.4R75:

3. Updated Media Server with QoS tagging support.

http://www.linksys.com/servlet/Satellite?blobcol=urldata&blobheadername1=Content-Type&blobheadername2=Content-Disposition&blobheadervalue1=text%2Fplain&blobheadervalue2=inline%3B+filename%3DNAS200_Release_Note.txt&blobkey=id&blobtable=MungoBlobs&blobwhere=1193797842739&ssbinary=true&lid=8065067604B11

That seems to be only for the UPnP AV media server while streaming.
Title: Re: QoS tagging support?
Post by: fordem on September 03, 2008, 07:18:35 AM
That seems to be only for the UPnP AV media server while streaming.

What does that translate to - the media server process is given priority when streaming?  Would that not be the point I raised earlier?
Title: Re: QoS tagging support?
Post by: ECF on September 03, 2008, 09:58:34 AM
Yeah, Im not sure exactly how this works without a switch that supports QOS tagging like most home routers as our NAS does not have this function. But as for this device it seems it has added QOS for media streaming. I suppose a feature like this could be implemented on our NAS but I don't really see the benefit on a home network having traffic issues or being able to utilize a QOS tag. I will probably have to look into it more. 
Title: Re: QoS tagging support?
Post by: fordem on September 03, 2008, 12:30:15 PM
Just for the sake of clarity - where I see a potential benefit is not the normal tagged QoS traffic - but rather the possibility of having the unit dedicate more (or sufficient) resources to AV functionality so that the streaming does not falter if someone were to initiate a "multi gigabit" file transfer simultaneously