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Title: No Connectivity Between Wired and Wireless Devices (on main SSID)
Post by: Ahhk on February 24, 2011, 09:20:21 PM
Ive had this 655 for about a year now and it has been rock solid. But, there has been one slight issue thats been driving me crazy.

And and all wireless devices can see each other and all wired devices can see each other....but the wired cant see the wireless and vis versa.

The wireless devices (W7 and Vista laptops) can see the wired devices when they are plugged in. But my phone and Galaxy Tab can only see whatever wireless devices there are (cant be plugged in). Even my wired Samsung TV cant see the shares on the Tab or wireless laptops (and vis versa). So, its certainly not a firewall or OS config issue.

Now, I made sure they are all connecting via the main SSID and not the "isolated" Guest SSID....but its acting like the main SSID is isolated from the wired LAN somehow.

Firmware 1.34. IPs for the wired and wireless devices are all in the 1.2 - 1.50 range.

What am I missing here? :0

Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.

Title: Re: No Connectivity Between Wired and Wireless Devices (on main SSID)
Post by: davevt31 on February 24, 2011, 11:14:29 PM
In the router settings.  Select the Advanced tab > Advanced Wireless - Make sure WLAN partition is unchecked.
Title: Re: No Connectivity Between Wired and Wireless Devices (on main SSID)
Post by: Ahhk on February 25, 2011, 05:29:08 AM
When I read your reply my initial response was "Oh! No way!".

Sadly, though, it is not enabled/checked.

I even checked it/saved...then unchecked it/saved...for good measure. But, no change....

Title: Re: No Connectivity Between Wired and Wireless Devices (on main SSID)
Post by: FurryNutz on February 25, 2011, 07:07:53 AM
Using static IP addressing on the router?
Are the devices connected to the router on the same WorkGroup name?
Sharing and Network Discovery enabled on each device?
Title: Re: No Connectivity Between Wired and Wireless Devices (on main SSID)
Post by: Ahhk on February 25, 2011, 07:20:25 AM
Some machines are static, some reserved, and some dynamic.

It makes no diff between what sees what. All on same workgroup and homegroup (where applicable).

Everything can see everything else on the same (LAN/WAN) side so its clearly a router issue IMHO.

I'm gonna try resetting the router. Dont know what else it could be.

Title: Re: No Connectivity Between Wired and Wireless Devices (on main SSID)
Post by: Ahhk on February 25, 2011, 07:30:01 AM
Backed up settings. Factory defaulted. Updated fiw to 1.35. Restored settings. And....walah! It's all working as it should. No more WAN/LAN isolation!

How odd.



Title: Re: No Connectivity Between Wired and Wireless Devices (on main SSID)
Post by: FurryNutz on February 25, 2011, 07:53:59 AM
Very Odd. Wonder if you backed up settings now and reapplied the 1.34 FW and reloaded the settings, would you see the same thing?
Title: Re: No Connectivity Between Wired and Wireless Devices (on main SSID)
Post by: Ahhk on February 25, 2011, 09:05:56 AM
I spoke too soon.  :(  AND I figured out another piece to the puzzle.

It's not wireless vs wired. It is static vs dynamic/dhcp.

For example, with one of the laptops that I was testing with, I had the wired connection set to static IP and the wireless as dynamic. Plugged in...it was accessible to the other wired (static) devices.

But, when plugged in and set to dynamic.....nadda!

Any ideas on the static / dynamic isolation now? :0

Title: Re: No Connectivity Between Wired and Wireless Devices (on main SSID)
Post by: FurryNutz on February 25, 2011, 09:18:31 AM
I would set all of your connected deviced to Static IP addresses in Setup/Network settings on the router. Leave the device networking set to automatic. They will get the assigned IP addresses when they connect to the router.
Title: Re: No Connectivity Between Wired and Wireless Devices (on main SSID)
Post by: Ahhk on February 25, 2011, 09:24:38 AM
All the wired devices ARE static and all the wireless devices are dynamic.

That is the problem.

Title: Re: No Connectivity Between Wired and Wireless Devices (on main SSID)
Post by: FurryNutz on February 25, 2011, 09:42:39 AM
Exacatly and as I stated, "I would set all of your connected devices to Static IP addresses in Setup/Network settings on the router." This would include the Wireless.
Title: Re: No Connectivity Between Wired and Wireless Devices (on main SSID)
Post by: Ahhk on February 25, 2011, 09:55:04 AM
I realize that is a "fix" to the problem but not a solution.

Setting the wireless devices static is great while Im home. But I then have to remember to turn off the static setting on each device every time I leave the house....and back on again when I get home?

That's a bit less than an ideal situation   :o
Title: Re: No Connectivity Between Wired and Wireless Devices (on main SSID)
Post by: FurryNutz on February 25, 2011, 09:58:44 AM
I think you mis understand my statement. Setup static IP addresses in the router, not the devices themselves. If you set static on the router, you'll have the same address all the time and helps in troubleshooting while your at home. Set your devices for automatic so weather you are at home or away, those devices will get an address regardless of where you are at.
Title: Re: No Connectivity Between Wired and Wireless Devices (on main SSID)
Post by: davevt31 on February 25, 2011, 10:02:56 AM
Furry is telling you to set up DHCP Reservations for your devices.
Title: Re: No Connectivity Between Wired and Wireless Devices (on main SSID)
Post by: Ahhk on February 25, 2011, 10:16:21 AM
Furry is telling you to set up DHCP Reservations for your devices.

Oh, sorry, yeah I misunderstood him.

Setting reserved IPs by MAC (as most of the wireless device already were) is the same as being fully dynamic.

The only way is for each device to be set HARD static.  :(

 

Title: Re: No Connectivity Between Wired and Wireless Devices (on main SSID)
Post by: FurryNutz on February 25, 2011, 10:26:15 AM
So by setting DCHP reservations to Static in the routers Setup/Network Settings for ALL of your devices, and setting the those devices to Obtaing IP Address Automatically does not work?
Title: Re: No Connectivity Between Wired and Wireless Devices (on main SSID)
Post by: Ahhk on February 25, 2011, 10:32:20 AM
Well, no....I didnt switch all the statics to reserveds. That would be a PITA and would make router replacement/swapping a huge PITA as well.

No, Dad...I dont want to. Dont make me!

Is this static / dynamic isolation a "bug/feature" of the 655 or something? I dont get why I can't have a seamless combination of both?

There are no Apple products anywhere in my house...so it all should be working!!

:)
Title: Re: No Connectivity Between Wired and Wireless Devices (on main SSID)
Post by: FurryNutz on February 25, 2011, 10:51:03 AM
Do you do a lot of router swapping? Swap using the same model routers?
Title: Re: No Connectivity Between Wired and Wireless Devices (on main SSID)
Post by: Ahhk on February 25, 2011, 11:22:55 AM
haha...no I dont. But after 15+ years, I have "upgraded" quite a few times.

I still have my DIR628, DIR615, DI-514, and DI707 :)

All the desktops, phone, alarm, TVs, Xboxs, etc are all set static. It would be a huge undertaking to switch them to reserved dhcp.



Title: Re: No Connectivity Between Wired and Wireless Devices (on main SSID)
Post by: FurryNutz on February 25, 2011, 11:34:10 AM
Well for what it's worth, my entire network is reserved on my router. Should I need to swap with the same router, I can easily reload the configuration file and I'm up in minutes. I would recommend using the routers Reservation options for all of your devices then save of the configuration to file. Makes it easy to load later.

It's really not a huge undertaking of making reservations in the router. This is what the router is for and does.

Do you understand that Reserved and Static means the same thing right?
Title: Re: No Connectivity Between Wired and Wireless Devices (on main SSID)
Post by: Ahhk on February 25, 2011, 11:51:26 AM
Do you understand that Reserved and Static means the same thing right?

Well, the RESULT might be the same (except in my case), but I refer to them as:

Static IP         = IP hard-set in device/ignores DHCP
Static DHCP     = IP reserved for MAC in router/DHCP server
(Regular) DHCP = random IP assigned by router/DHCP server

Might not be the correct terminology, but this is how I have always referred to it :)

And, no, clicking the "reserve" link in the router's client list is the easy part. Going to each and every device and setting it back to DHCP is the PITA

I do appreciate all your time/help. I might just go ahead and do it this weekend if I have some free time.

Title: Re: No Connectivity Between Wired and Wireless Devices (on main SSID)
Post by: davevt31 on February 25, 2011, 04:42:04 PM
Taking another shot in the dark.

In the router settings > Setup> Network. Check the box that says Netbios announcement.

I think the main problem is that with the 655 handling DNS it doesn't "see" the systems that don't get a DHCP address from it, therefore it doesn't pass information along the network.
Title: Re: No Connectivity Between Wired and Wireless Devices (on main SSID)
Post by: fordman on March 02, 2011, 11:56:19 AM
And, no, clicking the "reserve" link in the router's client list is the easy part. Going to each and every device and setting it back to DHCP is the PITA

What FurryNutz describes is how I have my DIR-655 network set up - I've reserved IP addresses in the router for all wired and wireless devices.  ALL of my devices are set up to obtain the IP address automatically from the server (DHCP).  There is NO NEED to change your devices to a static IP address.  When each device requests an IP from the DIR-655, the DIR-655 checks the reservation list and "dynamically serves" the reserved IP to the device!  As far as the "device is concerned," it received a dynamic IP address from the router.  Also, if you increase the lease time for IP addresses, there may not even be a need to reserve them.  If you want to try that increase your IP lease time (I use 30 days) and then set ALL your devices to dynamic/DHCP.  Perhaps that will give you the result you are looking for.  If you do want to have something like a network printer always at the same address (advisable for print driver setup), then simply set the IP in the printer to one that is outside the range of the DIR-655's DHCP server.  The DIR-655 will only provide dynamic IPs that are within the stated range, so there will never be a collision with those you've static (hard) set to ones outside of that range.

Good Luck!