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The Graveyard - Products No Longer Supported => Routers / COVR => DGL-4500 => Topic started by: Nicole Smith on May 04, 2011, 08:40:35 AM
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Hi, everyone. Nicole here again.. with another question.. :)
in our business, for security reasons, we have always, recorded all of the phone conversations with all of our clients, for quality purpose. we have always used, the linksys PAP2 and use different Voip companies, like vonage,Phone Power, Vocalocity, and others. To record all of incoming and outgoing conversation in the business.
When we use any of our 5 modem routers, with the PAP2, and use any of 5 Voip providers, the calls get recorded, in Full Duplex mode. and gives us a green light. witch means, the person who is calling, and the person who is receiving the call, are both being recorded, and there is no problem.
But when i connect the DGL 4500, the calls get recorded in Half Duplex mode, and gives us a red light, wich mean, that only one of the persons voice, is being recorded.
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So, besides Voip, we made another test, about Online Gaming, and other things. We tested Call Of Duty, black ops, and Gears OF war 3 Beta. for roughly 5 hours. We had 5 of the most skilled people, play for 1 hour online, in both COD-Black OPs and Gears Of Wars 3 beta. and these are the results.
D-LINK MODEM + D-LINK DGL 4500 ROUTER 2 WIRE 2700HG MODEM ROUTER
Call OF Duty Black Ops
Player 1 Player 1
17 kills 8 deaths 26 kills 4 deaths
Player 2 player 2
19 kills 6 deaths 28 kills 4 deaths
player 3 player 3
14 kills 6 deaths 23 kills 2 deaths
player 4 player 4
12 kills 5 deaths 27 kills 3 deaths
player 5 player 5
14 kills 7 deaths 22 kills 3 deaths
Gears OF wars 3 Beta
Player 1 player 1
12 kills 8 deaths 19 kills 2 deaths
player 2 player 2
10 kills 6 deaths 17 kills 2 deaths
player 3 player 3
10 kills 4 deaths 22 kills 1 deaths
player 4 player 4
9 kills 6 deaths 26 kills o deaths
player 5 player 5
12 kills 5 deaths 21 kills 3 deaths
These calculation, where made from 5 hour of gameplay, in diffrent maps, with each player.
now this is what the player's say, with the DGL 4500, people who played gears of war 3, would say, that with the DGL 4500, you cannot see the lag, but, when trying to battle someone, close with the shotgun, or with the sawed off. they would most likely, kill someone 60%, but when they used the 2 WIRE 2700 HG , they felt more, free ness, and quickness. witch meas, that they kill someone 95% of the time.
same thing with call of duty, when trying to knife someone or kill someone with the shotgun. or when shooting, someone from far distance , people when using the DGL 4500 , would only get about 65% of the time, with the 2 WIRE 2700HG, they would get about 90% of the time that kill.
These are players, last from 8am till 12 midnight at night time, playing in my gaming lounge. practicing for international tournaments.
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I don't know if it has something to do with the settings, on the DGL 4500 WAN, or LAN port Settings or Configuration , or what settings, im supposed have on or off, or have checked, or not..? or it if has something to do, with the D-link Modem 2320B, being connected into the DLINK DGL 4500 ROUTER. i think its something to do with the settings in the DLG 4500. i just don't know.
hope someone can help me on this one. because we have setup, all of our gaming lounge, with the D-LINK 2320B modem, + DGL 4500 Router. Internet speeds are 50MB Download, 2MB upload. there must be a way around this.
The Point to this, is. If there is a way to get FULL DUPLEX working on DGL 4500. this problem will be solved. for both, VOIP and Online gaming.
Important Notice
People, will never notice this, unless they have at least 5 different modems, or different router, like we have. we tested all of them. and they work fine. only problem is with the DGL 4500. Also tested my other DGL 4500 and same things happens.
we use, different voip licensed programs to record our calls like MiaRec Business and other that cost $300.00 per phone line. , also if you don't have a licensed voip program like we have, a quick way, to test this for free. is with the oxid.it Cain & Abel program its free.and one of our players, even tested, with this app. and it only works in Half Duplex Mode.
the PAP2 Linksys VOIP adapater is connected to one of the LAN ports on the DGL 4500, and then , all recording loggs, gets saved, in a laptop that is connected, via Wireless.
im using Firmware Version : 1.15, 2008/10/29
thank you and god bless everyone
--------this is something useful i found---------
Half-duplex Ethernet is defined in the original 802.3 Ethernet; Cisco says it uses only one wire pair with a digital signal running in both directions on the wire. Certainly, the IEEE specifications discuss the process of half duplex somewhat differently, but what Cisco is talking about is a general sense of what is happening here with Ethernet.
It also uses the CSMA/CD protocol to help prevent collisions and to permit retransmitting if a collision does occur. If a hub is attached to a switch, it must operate in half-duplex mode because the end stations must be able to detect collisions. Half-duplex Ethernet typically 10BaseT is only about 30 to 40 percent efficient as Cisco sees it, because a large 10BaseT network will usually only give you 3 to 4Mbps at most.
But full-duplex Ethernet uses two pairs of wires, instead of one wire pair like half duplex. And full duplex uses a point-to-point connection between the transmitter of the transmitting device and the receiver of the receiving device. This means that with full-duplex data transfer, you get a faster data transfer compared to half duplex. And because the transmitted data is sent on a different set of wires than the received data, no collisions will occur.
The reason you don’t need to worry about collisions is because now it’s like a freeway with multiple lanes instead of the single-lane road provided by half duplex.
Full-duplex Ethernet is supposed to offer 100 percent efficiency in both directions e.g., you can get 20Mbps with a 10Mbps Ethernet running full duplex, or 200Mbps for Fast Ethernet. But this rate is something known as an aggregate rate, which translates as You’re supposed to get 100 percent efficiency. No guarantees, in networking as in life.
Full-duplex Ethernet can be used in three situations:
- With a connection from a switch to a host
- With a connection from a switch to a switch
- With a connection from a host to a host using a crossover cable
Now, if it’s capable of all that speed, why wouldn’t it deliver? Well, when a full-duplex Ethernet port is powered on, it first connects to the remote end, and then negotiates with the other end of the Fast Ethernet link. This is called an auto-detect mechanism.
This mechanism first decides on the exchange capability, which means it checks to see if it can run at 10 or 100Mbps. It then checks to see if it can run full duplex, and if it can’t, it will run half duplex.
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Are you using the 4500 with Gamefuel rules enabled or disabled when you did the gaming test?
For VoIP, what are the current Firewall settings?
Try setting the firewall settings to EndPoint Independent for TCP and UDP.
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Are you using the 4500 with Gamefuel rules enabled or disabled when you did the gaming test?
For VoIP, what are the current Firewall settings?
Try setting the firewall settings to EndPoint Independent for TCP and UDP.
We tried this method, with game fuel disabled only hooking up, 1 game console, on router, and also only 1 voip adapter . If im not mistaking, if there is only 1 lan port being used on router, gamefuel should not be turned on, since the router itself, should give all the priority to this and only lan port being used. also if only 4 xbox 360 are connected to each port witch in total are 4 ports on the back of the DLG 4500, shouldn't all the ports receive the same priority. just as any router. correct me if im wrong.
also do you think, these firewall UDP, and TCP. settings that i have, is whats causing the problem and giving me half duplex from LAN or WAN ports, instead of full duplex.? on VOIP..? or XBOX LIVE.?
So, my question is should i change the UDP and TCP, settings.? will this resolve the VOIP from half duplex, to full duplex.? and also, since only xbox 360 consoles are being connected to each lan port, i don't think gamer fuel should be turned on. because then, one xbox 360 will receive more priority than the others. and i don't think that's good, because people will always want to play on a specific console instead of any one that is empty. would like to know what you think.
Here is the Information you requested. these are my settings.
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GAMEFUEL SETUP
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Enable GameFuel : yes
Automatic Classification :yes
Dynamic Fragmentation : yes
Automatic Uplink Speed : yes
Connection Type : AUTO-DETECT
Detected xDSL or
Other Frame Relay Network : Yes
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ADD GAMEFUEL RULE
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NOt enabled
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FIREWALL SETTINGS
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Enable SPI : YES
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NAT ENDPOINT FILTERING
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UDP : ADDRESS RESTRICTED
TCP : PORT AND ADDRESS RESTRICTED
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If you have more than one console online and connected it's recommended to use the gamefule rules to set up for each xbox and give priority. I have a buddy that has 3 and theres work well.
You can check out an example of my settings here:
http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=38206.0 (http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=38206.0)
This is for 2 xboxes and works well for more then that.
Disregard the 2 rules that are not enabled. Just use the Port 53 and port 3074 rule entries.
Give the Endpoint Independent settings a try in firewall.
There has been some issues with these routers working with other VoIP adaptors and routers.
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I really loved my 2wire 2701HG-B modem/router when I had DSL.
We really never had issues with it, of course it was the one AT&T recommended and sold, so I'm sure it was tested extensively.
Sorry that I have nothing of value to add to this discussion. :P Just sayin'
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If you have more than one console online and connected it's recommended to use the gamefule rules to set up for each xbox and give priority. I have a buddy that has 3 and theres work well.
Give the Endpoint Independent settings a try in firewall.
There has been some issues with these routers working with other VoIP adaptors and routers.
ok, ill try the endpoint independent settings in a about 1 or 2 hours or maybe less as soon as they finish playing, right now i have all the 10 xbox 360, being played on prating for a tournament. because if i reset the router, that means no internet, and these guys will kill me, if i do that now. lol :)
about the priority, if you think about it, it makes no sense. since only xbox 360 consoles are being used. if there was 1 or 2 computer's connected via wireless or lan, downloading torrents, movies, or games. then i think gamerfuel would be useful on.
can you give each gamerfuel the same priority..? , on each xbox 360. also remember im using the DGL-4500 plus NETGEAR router, now. so if i give gamerfuel priority, have 3 xbox connected to DGL, 1 lan port connected from DGL 4500 to NETGEAR router LAN port. and use the other empty LAN ports on the NETGEAR, for the other xbox 360
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If you use my example in my previous message, you'll be only setting up 2 rules, one for port 53 and port 3074. Since you seem to have a bunch of consoles, you need to make sure each one is setup for a DHCP Reserved (Static) IP address and the addresses are in sequence, i.e. 192.168.0.50 thru 192.168.0.60. Don't let any PCs get with in this address range. Just keep it to the consoles. Once you have all the consoles set up, then input the first ip address into the Local IP Address Range FROM box and input the last ip address of the last xbox into the Local IP Address Range TO box. Everything between the beginning and ending addresses will be included.
Let me know and I can help you out by using Team Viewer and check on your settings if you like.
Look at Post #10 in the previous linked message.
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If you use my example in my previous message, you'll be only setting up 2 rules, one for port 53 and port 3074. Since you seem to have a bunch of consoles, you need to make sure each one is setup for a DHCP Reserved (Static) IP address and the addresses are in sequence, i.e. 192.168.0.50 thru 192.168.0.60. Don't let any PCs get with in this address range. Just keep it to the consoles. Once you have all the consoles set up, then input the first ip address into the Local IP Address Range FROM box and input the last ip address of the last xbox into the Local IP Address Range TO box. Everything between the beginning and ending addresses will be included.
Let me know and I can help you out by using Team Viewer and check on your settings if you like.
Look at Post #10 in the previous linked message.
sorry it seems i forgot to mention in my first post, that we have all the xbox 360 with a static ip, from 192.168.0.100 to 192.168.0.110 ..and also we have opened up, the ports for xbox live, in the DGL 4500. just in case, and we also set everything to automatic, and vise versa. when we did the test.
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Need to use Gamefule rules, don't use Gaming rules.
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i just found this...on other websites, posted over the internet.. OMG. how can this be..? i spend lots of money on buying 2 of these DLG 4500 routers. and now i find these specs. it says that DLG 4500 only handle's Half Duplex.. if this can be corrected by a firmware upgrade or something. because it makes no sence. for a $400.00 to $200.00 router. to be half duplex. when other routers in the market, that cost $15.00 to $30.00 Support Full Duplex MODE..
can someone share some light on this. i guess its not the settings, its the actual router itself..
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General Features
LED Indicators Interactive Status Display
Communication Mode Half Duplex
Compliant Standards (Wired) IEEE 802.3 10Base-T, IEEE 802.3u 100Base-TX, IEEE 802.3ab 1000Base-T
Compliant Standards (Wireless) IEEE 802.11b Wireless, IEEE 802.11g Wireless G, IEEE 802.11n (Draft 2.0) Wireless
Device Management Web-Based Management
Routing Protocol RIP-1, RIP-2 (Static Routing & Dynamic Routing)
Internet Sharing Methods Static IP, Dynamic IP, PPPoE, PPTP, L2TP
Encryption Data and Network Security with 64-bit/128-bit WEP Data Encryption
Firewall/Security Network Address Translation (NAT); Stateful Packet Inspection (SPI);
VPN Features VPN Pass-through; Multi-sessions: PPTP, L2TP, IPSec
Radio Technology Direct Sequence Spread Spectrum (DSSS)
Modulation Technology Complementary Code Keying (CCK)
Frequency 2.412GHz to 2.462GHz
Antenna (3) Detachable Antennas
Channels 11 Channels (US, Canada), 13 Channels (European Countries)
Wireless B Data Transfer Rate 11Mbps, 5.5Mbps, 2Mbps, 1Mbps
Wireless G Data Transfer Rate 54Mbps, 48Mbps, 36Mbps, 24Mbps, 18Mbps, 12Mbps, 9Mbps, 6Mbps
Wireless N Data Transfer Rate 300Mbps, 270Mbps, 243Mbps, 216Mbps, 162Mbps, 135Mbps, 130Mbps, 121.5Mbps, 117Mbps, 108Mbps
Wired Data Transfer Rate (Half-Duplex) 1000Mbps, 100Mbps, 10Mbps
Network Ports and Connectors (4) RJ-45 10/100/1000 Gigabit Auto-Sensing Ports
Auxiliary Ports (1) RJ-45 10/100 Auto-Sensing WAN Port; (1) USB Port
Power Supply AC Adapter
Manufacturer Warranty 1 Year Limited Warranty
What's in the Box Xtreme N™ Gaming Router +3 Detachable Antennas +Ethernet Cable +Power Adapter +CD-ROM5 with -Installation Wizard -Product Documentation -World in Conflict™ Content
Included Software Drivers & Utilities
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You have to be aware that this router is meant for gaming mostly. Half Dulpex is probably something that the developers came up with, who knows. And maybe the gaming aspect doesn't required the use of Full-duplex. I don't have any information on this. This router was never over $200 retail so $400 is a bit over board.
It's possible that for your needs in VoIP that a different router that is designed specifically to handle that kinda of traffic would be a better option. This router is an excellent router for gaming and general use. Been the best router I've ever had. I have 2 of them.
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You have to be aware that this router is meant for gaming mostly. Half Dulpex is probably something that the developers came up with, who knows. And maybe the gaming aspect doesn't required the use of Full-duplex. I don't have any information on this. This router was never over $200 retail so $400 is a bit over board.
It's possible that for your needs in VoIP that a different router that is designed specifically to handle that kinda of traffic would be a better option. This router is an excellent router for gaming and general use. Been the best router I've ever had. I have 2 of them.
Its confusing, the specs say HALF DUPLEX, and i've been reading other forums, where people say its full duplex, but, they don't specify. how to make it full duplex..
No wonder ive been having this issue, Full Duplex, is better for anything, whether its Voip, online gaming, or file transferring. we have just tested, again for the past 2 hours.. the only way to find out is to test out like we did. We tested it, with 10 different player's and all of them, agreed, there was a diffrence, when using the DGL-4500 compared to the rest of the router. With DGL-4500 they get less points, less kills,and more deaths. When using other router's they get More Points, More Kills, and less deaths.
this test is like a blind fold test, because they can't see what router is being used. because its in a room, where only we have access to. So i would switch from one router to the next, every 30 mints. just to compare. started with DGL-4500, then place another router, then, another router, then another router,DGL-4500, then another router, then DGL-4500. every time i placed the DGL-4500, people who notice the difference.
the only way to find this out, is with other router's like we have 5 diffrent one. testing them out 1 by 1. what its not explainable to me, is that DGL-4500 cost me lots of money, more than $200.00 each one. i have 2 of these router's. and they are only half duplex. and as other people, state in other forum, all of my other router's just cost me. from $20.00 to $40.00. and there all full duplex. some of these router's are like 8 years old. and are full duplex.
Is there someone, that you know of, that can share some light on this subject..? maybe a tech. or someone.? ill tried to contact D-LINK tech department, but i was put on hold for like 20 mints, so i just hung up.
Maybe this can be, fixed, with a software upgrade..? or if its something internal, inside the DGL-4500. then i guess it can't..
FurryNutz... i also want to thank you.. for you trying to help me with this issue.. it seems, your the only person, that talks, in this forum. what ever happened to lycan, fatman, and the rest of the mods, and other forum, people.? are they on vacations or what. ? i remember back 1 year ago. when someone posted a new thread, they would get lots of great help from lots of different people..some of witch have helped me years ago. and i owe thanks to.
what can you tell me..?
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The most active and helpful guys here are Furry, Hard Harry and Look Into My Eyes. I've been chatting with them for about 3 or 4 months now, but they're the only "old timers" here, Nicole.
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Depends on the device, what device do you want to run at full duplex? I have almost all my devices at full duplex including my Ps3, computers Etc. Most if not all router support full duplex, also I would like to say that I am sorry I didn't post any sooner to help you Nicole Smith, but I refrain from posting and reading when the user requires me to read an abusively long post. If you enable full duplex on the device you are allowing the router to send and receive at the same time (excellent for VoIP), also in order to achieve a full duplex of 1Gbps (500Mbps up and 500Mbps down) you must have a standard cat 6 cable and the device/network card must also support a gigabit connection. You can also do a full duplex at lower speeds such as 100Mbps (50Mbps up and 50Mbps down) But since this is a gaming router you would want to use it at its full potential. Also let me point this out, I am not really sure what you are requesting, I didn’t bother to read the essays. Hope I am not coming on too strong and my apologies if I may have seemed rude. Have a great day Nicole Smith (your name sounds nice)
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Chris
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I would also like for you to understand that 1Gbps full duplex will only work in the network (LAN) Specially in the Dominican Republic, were the internet (WAN) is not up to 1Gbps.
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Depends on the device, what device do you want to run at full duplex? I have almost all my devices at full duplex including my Ps3, computers Etc. Most if not all router support full duplex, also I would like to say that I am sorry I didn't post any sooner to help you Nicole Smith, but I refrain from posting and reading when the user requires me to read an abusively long post. If you enable full duplex on the device you are allowing the router to send and receive at the same time (excellent for VoIP), also in order to achieve a full duplex of 1Gbps (500Mbps up and 500Mbps down) you must have a standard cat 6 cable and the device/network card must also support a gigabit connection. You can also do a full duplex at lower speeds such as 100Mbps (50Mbps up and 50Mbps down) But since this is a gaming router you would want to use it at its full potential. Also let me point this out, I am not really sure what you are requesting, I didn’t bother to read the essays. Hope I am not coming on too strong and my apologies if I may have seemed rude. Have a great day Nicole Smith (your name sounds nice)
That is someone what correct, but it doesn't matter the speed. if it supports full duplex then it does, but apparently the DGL 4500. only does HALF DUPLEX, read the instructions, and specs. so you can see for yourself. i just spoke with D-link, a while ago. and one of there tech's confirmed its HALF DUPLEX, i was about to ask him another question, and the called dropped, when i called again, got another tech, and he told me something else. he said its Full Duplex. so its crazy, the specs, and instruction manual, said Half Duplex. this is also what the first rep told me at D-link. and then the second rep.tells me its full duplex.
The only reason, you select your ps3 to full duplex, its because. ps3 lets you just choose it manually. but its not really going at full duplex, since DGL-4500 only handles half duplex. you can also set it to 100, or 1000 half duplex or full duplex, and it will work. ps3 NIC card, is not that smart, and so sensitive. just try to transfer a big file, like 10GB. from your desktop or laptop. to ps3. with the DGL 4500, and see how long it takes. when i tried this, with other routers. its was faster. this was the test , we just finished doing right now.
the problem DGL-4500 dose not give you an option , for half duplex or full duplex, because it
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Chris
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I would also like for you to understand that 1Gbps full duplex will only work in the network (LAN) Specially in the Dominican Republic, were the internet (WAN) is not up to 1Gbps.
i know this, please read, the post complete, so you can understand better. i just did some test, with some people.
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Nicole Smith that is incorrect, if the router does not support full duplex than a connection cannot be established at 1Gbps full duplex. Instead you will get a message saying a network cord is unplugged. Try going on a router that does not support 1Gbps full duplex and then go onto your on board computer card and set it to 1Gbps full duplex and you will get the message. The complications that I don't know are if the router supports 1Gbps Full duplex than that means it’s really 2Gbps (1Gbps up and 1Gbps down) As for the 10Gb file size, you need to do it with a computer in which the hardware supports a write speed of 1Gbps. As for the Ps3; The test is invalid, The PlayStation 3 hard drive cannot even write at the speeds of 1Gbps, also most if not all network card will never reach a speeds of 1Gbps, just because it is possible does not mean the average consumer have the necessary hardware to perform at that speed/size. Have a great day Nicole Smith.
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Also Nicole Smith, may you please use proper forum standards? You are quoting me wrong and it makes for a more challenging reading.
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Umm, lookintomyeyes.. I understand what your trying to say, but im just making you a point, just because im a girl, does not mean i don't know or have the knowledge. I have my bachelor degree in computer science, Networking and Communications.
what you are talking about, are just the Interfaces, of the Router only for transferring files (RECEIVE) (SEND). witch are
WAN : 1 x Ethernet 10Base-T/100Base-TX/1000Base-T - RJ-45,
LAN : 4 x Ethernet 10Base-T/100Base-TX/1000Base-T - RJ-45,
USB : 1 x
what im talking about, is the communications Mode (RECEIVE) (SEND), of the Router witch is HALF DUPLEX, and not FULL DUPLEX.
these are 2 different things
also one of my inconvenience right now is that when i called D-link Customer Service. When i speak with 1 tech, he tells me, yes DGL-4500 is only half duplex in Communications Mode, but full duplex in its interfaces.then when i was about to ask him another question, the calls drops. and i call again. and another tech. answers. and i ask him the same question, and he says, its full duplex. So this just confuses people.
the only way to test, and know what im talking about, is if you have at least 3 routers, and 3 different modems. and testing them out, to see what i mean. We have already conducted about 6 different test. on VOIP and gaming online.with different modems, routers, and router,modems
Everyone has these issues, with the DGL-4500 router , the problem is, that no one really notice or get lag in online games, or doing VOIP. you really don't notice anything if your only using the DGL-4500. But when you have 5 different branded name routers, and 5 different branded name modems. and spend 5 to 6 hours in a day. testing it out like we did. then you'll notice the difference.
Some people, in other forums, have tested, with at least 1 different router, and they notice the difference. but its better to have more than 1. to make the test and compare. each test with each one.
also check on the NIC card on PS3 SLIM, its Better than the NIC card on PS3 Fat. we already tried this. and if you have a PS3 Slim and Fat. you can try it yourself.
Thank You, You have a great day as well.
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Im still curious if you have set up the gamefuel rules or not. Funny, most of us on here who play XBL don't seem to see these issues you see while gaming. How ever again, some of us don't have 5-10 gaming consoles online either. Whats your ISP pipe like? UP and Down speeds your paying for?
Yes, I do agree that Duplex modes of this router could effect how VoIP works. I've worked in the communications field for a while now. VoIP needs FULL Duplex to communicate. This router may not support VoIP as I've said before, this router was mainly meant for people who game and for general internet usage. VoIP is a specialized application in which this router might not be best suited for that application. Working in networking and communications, I've never seen a home or end user type of router used for main stream VoIP, specially in small businesses and up. The most I've seen that works well on this router is MagicJack, as I have it on my system and on a 4500. I working on verifying to see what Duplex mode this router supports and will try and report it back here. If you are working with VoIP and need to have it for your communications, I would recommend researching to find a better suited router for that application.
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Some information about the 4500 that you should know:
"If the devices are only negotiating at half-duplex my first thought is check the cable. The DGL-4500 is not limited to half-duplex and it would appear that there may be a auto-negotiation issue between the 2 devices. However, if she is using wireless on any of the devices then we should expect half duplex as the 802.11 standard is half-duplex by design. Things like 802.11n (MIMO) have allowed to circumvent that by sending and receiving the data over different channels for example. You cannot specify the duplex mode on the router but may be able to on the end device to see if this helps."
Can the 2Wire DSL modem be set up for bridge mode and use it only as a modem connected to the 4500? If so, can you try this out? What are the results here?
Also set up the game fuel rules for port 53 and 3074 for your xboxes and let us know how it goes. .
And just for sake of connections, I would recommend using CAT 6 cabling between the modem and router and all other devices.
1. Shortest possible cable length between modem and 4500.
2. Ensure all cables are in good condition and fully support Full Duplex modes over the wired connections. Some cables that come with devices have been found to be poorly made and low budget.
3. Cat 6 cabling and patch cables are very inexpensive. I bought a 1000ft roll last year for less than $100. I did a quick patch cable upgrade between all my devices and the router for less than $30 bucks. For a business running a lot of devices and has high bandwidth usage, it makes sense to take the extra time and money and ensure your network is fully updated, stable and working well.
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Umm, lookintomyeyes.. I understand what your trying to say, but im just making you a point, just because im a girl, does not mean i don't know or have the knowledge. I have my bachelor degree in computer science, Networking and Communications.
Thank You, You have a great day as well.
Nicole Smith, I admire women like you. Never in our discussion did I ever think you did not have the knowledge or capability's, I know that you are a smart girl/women. But Nicole Smith, the router is indeed able to perform at full duplex, the problem you are being challenged with comes in because the Router is set to auto detect full or half duplex based on the Nic and the cables. May you mind telling me what firmware you are on?, you did say "im using Firmware Version : 1.15, 2008/10/29" but I need to know if it's 1.15N/A. If it is 1.15N/A may you upgrade your firmware to 1.23N/A? I would also like to help config you router for the next test, I may not be able to set it at full duplex but I will try to optimize it for your gaming session. Also Nicole Smith I want to point out that I am also from the island born and raised in Usa. Have a great day Nicol Smith.
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I would advise that the router remain at FW v1.15 until her issue is better understood, troubleshot and possibly resolved. V1.15 is a very good and stable version. I ran it on my 2nd 4500 with out issues. I really feel the issues lie with the configuration of the devices and or cabling. Once troubleshooting and investigation has been satisfied to the point of resolution or no resolution, then it's possible that FW update could be done. My 2 cents
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Well FurryNutz there has been many improvement on the newer firmware versions, I personally believe that she has done enough. But everyones opinion is welcomed, I would like you to help her as you been doing and than if the problems persist I will come in and ask her once more to upgrade and I will help her out. I do believe I might get it to perform better but I don't know about the full duplex on the Xbox 360's. Only Ps3 and Pc's can be achieved by changing a few settings.
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Understood man. There is still some trouble shooting that needs to be done, i.e. modem bridging, cabling and gamefule rule set up that needs to be addressed and we'd all like to know the results of this. Updating FW may or may not fix her issues.
As for the xbox, I presume they are Full Duplex as in-game voice needs to be supported. I don't have hard evidence of this though. :P This also makes me think that the 4500 has to be full duplex as having to work with gaming data and voice communications, if you think about it, would have to. ::)
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Understood man. There is still some trouble shooting that needs to be done, i.e. modem bridging, cabling and gamefule rule set up that needs to be addressed and we'd all like to know the results of this. Updating FW may or may not fix her issues.
As for the xbox, I presume they are Full Duplex as in-game voice needs to be supported. I don't have hard evidence of this though. :P This also makes me think that the 4500 has to be full duplex as having to work with gaming data and voice communications, if you think about it, would have to. ::)
Yes, FurryNutz the router is full duplex, thats for sure. I have come to understand that it is full duplex 250Mbps (125Mbps up & 125Mbps down) This is based on the router splitting the 1Gb between 4 Lan ports.
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Chris
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My values were all wrong, My apologies. I will do the thread as of now and correct my mistakes. I will help you guys understand, if needed. Please go and take a look at my thread, thank you very much.
http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=38460.0 (http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=38460.0)
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Sorry, i got some family member's that came to visit me, from overseas. so i'v, e been busy with them. so that's why i did not reply any sooner.
FurryNutzs , is correct 115. is more stable than any other. the 2 wire can be put into bridge mode. the only problem, is that here in this country, they only have PPPA or as many call it, Point To Point Over ATM. So its not possible to bridge PPPOA, if it was PPPOE yes. but not PPPOA.. was i have said, in my other post, i have configured, the 4500, and opened up ports.
the 4500 is full duplex, only in transmitting mode. but only half duplex in communication mode.
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Thank you Furry and Alleyes. for your help. i mean it from the bottom of my heart. its a shame, Dlink customer service, you have to wait, almost 30 to 40 mints, to get someone on the phone. and can't answer to simple questions.
when people just play on the 4500, they don't see lag or anything. the only way you can tell, is when you play in different modems, or routers like we tested.
all eyes, i know you didn't, but that's what it sounded like. thanks and no worry' no bad feelings .. lol :)
What i need to do, is get DSL-2320B modem. open up.. through its configuration.. ive been looking at some sheets.. is there a way, to make the Modem into a router. even if its only 1 port..? what i mean by this .. is .. is there a way. that i can manually input the DNS address into the modem. so it does not auto detect it..? this would be helpful. this will help me determine. if it has something to do with the modem. and not the router..
thanks
i'm going to try.. some other test. ill go to the business now. and test with some guys. hopefully ill have some other results.
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The DSL modem is just that a modem only. If you had the 2540 or the 2640, those have built in routers I believe.
Too bad about the PPPoA.
How do you have the 4500 configured for open ports?