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Title: Recommend a router
Post by: RagingBull on April 02, 2009, 09:06:28 PM
Hey guys,

I want to replace my existing router with a Dlink, but im not sure which one to go for. I was planning to buy the DIR-655, but want to make sure its the right one I need. I have 1 laptop, 1 desktop n a PS3 that share the signal. My computers get a fairly strong signal, however my PS3 gets a very poor signal of just 30-40%. It's quite far from my router, so im looking for one with great range that can give my PS3 a strong signal n speed.

I know it sounds weird to get a new router just for a PS3 but I been wanting to get a new router for a while now. I have a wireless mouse n a keyboard n two 5.8ghz cordless phones....

What router would u guys recommend??

Thanks

p.s. this is the router im currently using: http://gigaset.com/shc/0,1935,hq_en_0_138495_rArNrNrNrN,00.html
Title: Re: Recommend a router
Post by: Lycan on April 03, 2009, 08:23:21 AM
I'm going to try to explain this as easily as possible.

This is a forum, people coem here because they have problems with their products, not because they want to brag about how well their working. Of COURSE your going to see complaints about the products here, thats what this forum is for.

Second, lets say that there are 100 users on this forum that are having problems with the DIR655, (and thats WAY higher then the actual number), that would be less then 1% of the units sold in the last 3 months.
So yes, it does seem like the units have problems, and for some people they do, but to assume that everyone is having the same problem as you is incorrect.

That being said, the 655 is about to get a new firmware, 1.30. We're being told you can't down grade from it so we're trying to make sure it's perfect.

Title: Re: Recommend a router
Post by: sixersclt on April 03, 2009, 08:25:25 AM
Assume you have wireless G running the PS3.

I love my 655 and also have a 625.  Unless you need Gb wired LAN, the 625 has the same functionality in the router firmware as the 655.  The 625 basically only lacks the GB LAN of the 655.  The 655 powers my home while the 625 is the weekend house.

I use the 625 along with a DWA-642 laptop card and a TRENDnet TEW-638APB 300Mbps Wireless N Access Point in order to always have N speeds wireless.  PS3/XBox only need G speeds.  So if only the PS3 is connected with a wireless G adapter, the 625 and 655 will operate at G speed.  If you have the PS3 at G and the 642 card in a laptop, the speed will also be G as the 625 and 655 are not dual independent band.  The DIR-825 is a GB LAN dual band.  By adding the Trendnet, eventhough PS3/Xbox only need G, my 625 operates at N speeds.

The 625 comes with a free 642 card at Newegg for $60.  The 655 is ~ $93 and the 825 can be had for ~ $130 street price.

Some folks have issues here and there with any router.  I am very pleased with D-Link and recommend D-Link.
Title: Re: Recommend a router
Post by: EddieZ on April 03, 2009, 09:09:24 AM
Disregard the 'review' from ShawnTRD. He is taking his own issues to some kind of generic level. Sorry to hear about his issues, but look on any manufacturer forum and you will find people with issues.

Anyway, I would advise you to go for the 655. Great wireless signal and plenty of ways to streamline traffic.
Do keep in mind that 'a poor signal' not noly depends on the router, but can just as well be caused by environment, concrete walls and other neighbouring AP's.



Title: Re: Recommend a router
Post by: Lycan on April 03, 2009, 10:34:50 AM
Assume you have wireless G running the PS3.

I love my 655 and also have a 625.  Unless you need Gb wired LAN, the 625 has the same functionality in the router firmware as the 655.  The 625 basically only lacks the GB LAN of the 655.  The 655 powers my home while the 625 is the weekend house.

I use the 625 along with a DWA-642 laptop card and a TRENDnet TEW-638APB 300Mbps Wireless N Access Point in order to always have N speeds wireless.  PS3/XBox only need G speeds.  So if only the PS3 is connected with a wireless G adapter, the 625 and 655 will operate at G speed.  If you have the PS3 at G and the 642 card in a laptop, the speed will also be G as the 625 and 655 are not dual independent band.  The DIR-825 is a GB LAN dual band.  By adding the Trendnet, eventhough PS3/Xbox only need G, my 625 operates at N speeds.

The 625 comes with a free 642 card at Newegg for $60.  The 655 is ~ $93 and the 825 can be had for ~ $130 street price.

Some folks have issues here and there with any router.  I am very pleased with D-Link and recommend D-Link.

See? Not everyone has bad experiences. Sometimes hardware just doesn't work in certain environments.
Title: Re: Recommend a router
Post by: lotacus on April 03, 2009, 02:15:39 PM
A lot of the problems are always the result of the end users configuration of their computer and equipement, they environment surrounding their network, and of course, lack of knowledge and common sense.

People are very quick to blame everything and everyone else but themselves.

You have the same gateway that I have, using Aliant as the service provider. You will not see any signal gain by exchanging out wireless gateways. As stated in the above paragraph, you are going to have to re-think your networking environment. 40 percent signal strength is fine. I am sure your connection rate is fine as well. If your only using the PS3 for online content, you will be fine since internal wireless connections are in most cases, much greater than downlstream internet connections. There really is no need for mega super fast speeds on a gaming console, unless your hosting a lan party or using the ps3 to stream multimedia content, even then, your fine for DVD quality content.

Yes, i've had my share of problems with the dir-655, but they were not significant issues, and of course, acutal issues with the environment and the other computers and the people using those computers. The only significant problem I had with the dir655 was the shareport feature and in my opinion is a very bad implimentation of sharing resources using that usb port, however, that is my own opinion, and I don't use it, so problem solved.

If you are only getting a wireless router, to try and increase connection reliability to your ps3, I would instead suggest purchasing a repeater, otherwise, I would recommend a gateway that does simutaneous 2.5 and 5Ghz frequency. All my gaming consoles are hard wired, I turned off the gigasets wireless radio to reduce interference.
Title: Re: Recommend a router
Post by: PeterJvM on April 04, 2009, 02:50:25 AM
D-Link has disabled some basic functionality through firmware (up)grade
releasing new firmware that disable downgrade is in MY OPINION
MORONIC and SIMPLY CRIMINAL This can be a good basis for a class action suite against D-Link
I don`t like ranting but I finally think it`s necessary to give a clear signal to the people responsible for these kind of crazy acts.
I used D-Link products for a number of years and frankly I can`t recommend this brand anymore.
Look what happened to CREATIVE and learn a lesson!

By the way this is not aimed at LYCAN ( who I truly rerspect ), but this is aimed at D-Link sales and marketing department.


I'm going to try to explain this as easily as possible.

This is a forum, people coem here because they have problems with their products, not because they want to brag about how well their working. Of COURSE your going to see complaints about the products here, thats what this forum is for.

Second, lets say that there are 100 users on this forum that are having problems with the DIR655, (and thats WAY higher then the actual number), that would be less then 1% of the units sold in the last 3 months.
So yes, it does seem like the units have problems, and for some people they do, but to assume that everyone is having the same problem as you is incorrect.

That being said, the 655 is about to get a new firmware, 1.30. We're being told you can't down grade from it so we're trying to make sure it's perfect.


Title: Re: Recommend a router
Post by: bananaman on April 04, 2009, 07:17:43 AM
I have two DIR-655's, and A2 and an A3, and they run great. For a consumer router, the DIR-655 has a lot of features. One of my networks has more than 20 devices on it. Both networks are rock solid.  I have PCs, servers, DVRs, media streamers, smartphones, cameras, printers... many accessed through LAN and WAN.

That said, the features are complex enough that if you move from a simple setup without studying first, you can cause problems. And there is no such thing as a 100% bug-free router!

As Lycan says, as in any user forum, people experiencing problems here are over-represented, and some have an axe to grind... I take them with a pinch of salt.
Title: Re: Recommend a router
Post by: ttmcmurry on April 04, 2009, 09:56:52 AM
I love the 655.  :)  Don't let a disgruntled someone sway your opinion.  You'll have the best experience with your PS3 if you don't mind moving your internet connection to the same room as the PS3. 

Also, on NewEgg.com, 81% of reviewers gave it a 4 or 5 egg rating- 66% gave it 5 eggs alone.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833127215&Tpk=dir-655

There are always going to be BadEggs™ out there, but they're few.
Title: Re: Recommend a router
Post by: lotacus on April 04, 2009, 11:02:08 AM
I like the dir655,  but for some reason, i feel it hasn't filled that empty void in my life. Still wishing it would have the capability at making coffee in the morning.
Title: Re: Recommend a router
Post by: EddieZ on April 04, 2009, 04:33:21 PM
I like the dir655,  but for some reason, i feel it hasn't filled that empty void in my life. Still wishing it would have the capability at making coffee in the morning.

Try a female specimen  ;D
Title: Re: Recommend a router
Post by: bpkilgore03 on April 05, 2009, 01:01:36 PM
 ??? you mean, my wife has actually been making the coffee  ???
Title: Re: Recommend a router
Post by: Lycan on April 06, 2009, 08:20:30 AM
D-Link has disabled some basic functionality through firmware (up)grade
releasing new firmware that disable downgrade is in MY OPINION
MORONIC and SIMPLY CRIMINAL This can be a good basis for a class action suite against D-Link
I don`t like ranting but I finally think it`s necessary to give a clear signal to the people responsible for these kind of crazy acts.
I used D-Link products for a number of years and frankly I can`t recommend this brand anymore.
Look what happened to CREATIVE and learn a lesson!

By the way this is not aimed at LYCAN ( who I truly rerspect ), but this is aimed at D-Link sales and marketing department.



Thing about that is, there are release notes available for the code that you can read through. If you don't like what it's going to do, don't install it.
Just sayin.
Title: Re: Recommend a router
Post by: smlunatick on April 06, 2009, 08:29:53 AM
Release note have previously been lacking details.  As with the 615 (B2) firmware update 2.25, the release notes indicate QoS service was added.  However, most QoS support info, in the Knowledge base, are for the advanced versions of QoS.  I have not found any info on the limited QoS version that now exist in the 615, which is not "tunable."
Title: Re: Recommend a router
Post by: hackztor on April 06, 2009, 12:10:33 PM
Thing about that is, there are release notes available for the code that you can read through. If you don't like what it's going to do, don't install it.
Just sayin.


Easier said than done. Ususally someone will like one feature and not like having something taken away. That person is torn then on what to do.  I still am on the 1.11 ms beta one and I have no problems with this router. Only thing i wish could be easier to configure would be the wake on lan. My wireless works like it should, does not disconnect. My router uptime goes on for months. Dir655 best way to go if u just need wireless n or g. IF both are needed get the 825.
Title: Re: Recommend a router
Post by: PeterJvM on April 06, 2009, 01:10:47 PM
This is nonsense, ın another post people already mentioned the removal of static routing.
There you replied in more or less the same way and pointed out to facts that presumably mentioned this removal. These facts mentioned a lot but not the removal of static routing.
You did get a reply, that was not correct, and never reacted on that.


Thing about that is, there are release notes available for the code that you can read through. If you don't like what it's going to do, don't install it.
Just sayin.

Title: Re: Recommend a router
Post by: Lycan on April 06, 2009, 01:44:04 PM
I'll doublecheck the changelog, if for whatever reason it's not in the current running log I'll make sure thats corrected, but to my knowledge it's in there, or at least was at one time and should be still as it's a running log.
Title: Re: Recommend a router
Post by: EddieZ on April 06, 2009, 03:04:14 PM
D-Link has disabled some basic functionality through firmware (up)grade
releasing new firmware that disable downgrade is in MY OPINION
MORONIC and SIMPLY CRIMINAL This can be a good basis for a class action suite against D-Link
I don`t like ranting but I finally think it`s necessary to give a clear signal to the people responsible for these kind of crazy acts.
I used D-Link products for a number of years and frankly I can`t recommend this brand anymore.
Look what happened to CREATIVE and learn a lesson!

By the way this is not aimed at LYCAN ( who I truly rerspect ), but this is aimed at D-Link sales and marketing department.



If someone is being a moron it's probably you.
You really need to buy more Linksys or whatever brand gear. That would implicate that you would visit their forums more and not this one.
Anyway...

Quote
This is nonsense, ın another post people already mentioned the removal of static routing.
There you replied in more or less the same way and pointed out to facts that presumably mentioned this removal. These facts mentioned a lot but not the removal of static routing.
You did get a reply, that was not correct, and never reacted on that.

What are you trying to prove here? I really can't make any sense from your rants. Is this actually helping the OP? So unless you have some added value to offer for the OP I would request you to open another thread in which you can assemble the Dlink bashers with too much time on their hands  8)
Title: Re: Recommend a router
Post by: mackworth on April 07, 2009, 05:28:31 AM
I wouldn't say don't buy the 655, but I have been pretty disappointed with every firmware since 1.11.  As a sustaining engineer for a software company, its always interesting to see how other companies handle patches.  Clearly dlink has a lot of work to do, because the firmware shouldn't be getting worse.  Not to mention how sloppy the releases have been.  Why is dlink so secretive with what it fixes?  We publish every bug we fix, and even some we haven't fixed so atleast customers knew we know about them.

Overall the 655 is an ok router, and if I was in the market for another router, I am not sure I would buy another dlink.  I am hoping 1.3 changes my mind.
Title: Re: Recommend a router
Post by: PeterJvM on April 07, 2009, 08:00:54 AM
Comming from someone who`s qualified as an insane member, I regards this as an overwhelming compliment. THANKS A LOT  :D

If someone is being a moron it's probably you.
You really need to buy more Linksys or whatever brand gear. That would implicate that you would visit their forums more and not this one.
Anyway...

What are you trying to prove here? I really can't make any sense from your rants. Is this actually helping the OP? So unless you have some added value to offer for the OP I would request you to open another thread in which you can assemble the Dlink bashers with too much time on their hands  8)
Title: Re: Recommend a router
Post by: Lycan on April 07, 2009, 08:36:32 AM
The tags on the left under the name simply denote the volume of posts the poster has reached.
Title: Re: Recommend a router
Post by: EddieZ on April 07, 2009, 09:33:14 AM
The tags on the left under the name simply denote the volume of posts the poster has reached.


And the Karma meter registers the number of 'Thank you'-s / 'Up yours'.

Good for you to take it as a compliment. This indicated that you've learned from the experience;  ;D
Title: Re: Recommend a router
Post by: PeterJvM on April 07, 2009, 02:58:38 PM
I rechecked the changelogs and cannot find a warning that static routing is disabled.
Static routing is a basic functionality and was enabled in past firmware versions.
If you run into problems often techies advise to install the latest firmware first.
If the latest firmware is irreversabble and disables static routing, and this renders the dir655 less or not usuable for you, D-Link is legally liable if they don't make a very clear warning.
So calling such an irreversable firmware upgrade moronic may be harsh but saying please didn't help in the past and will most likely not help in the future.
If D-Link is aware of this issue and stil brings out such firmware without any clear warning, they are knowingly stealing functionality from their customers property and that is criminal.

So I still stand behind my warning/appeal to D-Link's sales and marketing department.
 
And the Karma meter registers the number of 'Thank you'-s / 'Up yours'.

Good for you to take it as a compliment. This indicated that you've learned from the experience;  ;D

Title: Re: Recommend a router
Post by: EddieZ on April 08, 2009, 01:29:38 AM
I rechecked the changelogs and cannot find a warning that static routing is disabled.
Static routing is a basic functionality and was enabled in past firmware versions.
If you run into problems often techies advise to install the latest firmware first.
If the latest firmware is irreversabble and disables static routing, and this renders the dir655 less or not usuable for you, D-Link is legally liable if they don't make a very clear warning.
So calling such an irreversable firmware upgrade moronic may be harsh but saying please didn't help in the past and will most likely not help in the future.
If D-Link is aware of this issue and stil brings out such firmware without any clear warning, they are knowingly stealing functionality from their customers property and that is criminal.

So I still stand behind my warning/appeal to D-Link's sales and marketing department.
 

You really keep amazing me with your point of views...
There has not yet been an irreversible firmware upgrade. If 1.30 is irreversible, you already know which functionality is there and which isn't.

Secondly, if you claim that Dlink is "liable" and "stealing customers property" you're really in the wrong universe.
- The firmware is not property of the client. It's Dlinks/Ubicom's
- A changelog has no legal status whatsoever. It's courtesy of the manufacturer to publish it.
- If your 'assumptions' are correct, Dlink could legitimately ask for an extra fee for extra functionality (like Shareport, Guest zone). This is correct since the firmware is legally still Dlink's/Ubicom's.
I don't know where you got your legal degree, but it must have been 'on sale'. Simply because your allegations are not true.

You've made your 'point' on the board. IMHO your perception of facts is really one big fantasy, but if believe in your fabrications : be happy.
Since there is no added value to continuation of this factual incorrect ranting I will ask the moderators to close down the thread.

And please refrain from ranting on the board. There is nothing to gain with these eruptions of uncontrolled anger. You might even be expelled....

Title: Re: Recommend a router
Post by: PeterJvM on April 08, 2009, 08:17:29 AM
Your inability to read between the lines keeps amazing me.
IF, and I say and said IF a firm issues firmware that renders a device more or less(read for some maybe not but for some yes) to a brick without any warning , THEY ARE LIABLE
It was a D-Link person who stated that the new firmware would be a no fallback version and the same persom doubted if staic routing would be back in that firmware, I didn't start any rumour, I simply interpreted what was presented( by people that should know) in this forum.
The fact that you catagorically choose to ignore that clearly puts you into the FANBOY category.
I sincerely hope that your last post does will not be taken seriously because D-Link closing down this thread will only prove my point.

Just a worried customer!


You really keep amazing me with your point of views...
There has not yet been an irreversible firmware upgrade. If 1.30 is irreversible, you already know which functionality is there and which isn't.

Secondly, if you claim that Dlink is "liable" and "stealing customers property" you're really in the wrong universe.
- The firmware is not property of the client. It's Dlinks/Ubicom's
- A changelog has no legal status whatsoever. It's courtesy of the manufacturer to publis it.
- If your 'assumptions' are correct, Dlink could legitimately ask for an extra fee for extra functionality (like Shareport, Guest zone). This is correct since the firmware is legally still Dlink's/Ubicom's.
I don't know where you got your legal degree, but it must have been 'on sale'. Simply because your allegations are not true.

You've made your 'point' on the board. IMHO your perception of facts is really one big fantasy, but if believe in your fabrications : be happy.
Since there is no added value to continuation of this factual incorrect ranting I will ask the moderators to close down the thread.

And please refrain from ranting on the board. There is nothing to gain with these eruptions of uncontrolled anger. You might even be expelled....


Title: Re: Recommend a router
Post by: Fatman on April 08, 2009, 08:28:36 AM
I wrote an entire page of diatribe to post to this thread last night that was lost due to issues to stupid to go into (I know to save my work I do)

It boiled down to this.

PeterJvM, If you have a legal mater to pursue with D-Link I would do it through an official communication channel.  This is a board where individuals (some of whom are on D-Link's payroll) state their own opinions.  It was never designed to be a place to communicate with D-Link.  The number to communicate with D-Link (Customer Service) is 1 800 326 1688 ext. 6314.

EddieZ, Stop trollbaiting, just walk away.

Lycan, This thread quit being useful a while ago, please for the love of D-Link lock it.
Title: Re: Recommend a router
Post by: arod on April 08, 2009, 08:35:49 AM
As requested this topic is now being locked.