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The Graveyard - Products No Longer Supported => Routers / COVR => DGL-5500 => Topic started by: FurryNutz on August 03, 2013, 02:10:58 PM
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For those seeing less than reported ISP speeds when using the DGL-5500, please post your results here.
Please list the following in your post please:
ISP Service, i.e. Cable, DSL, No modem or Fiber
ISP Modem Mfr and Model # that router is connected to:
ISP Speed you pay for UP and DOWN that you should be getting, i.e. 50Down/2Up:
Speed results reporting on the DGL-5500:
Test results of by passing the DGL-5500, disabling StreamBoost or testing of other routers or a PC directly connected to the Modem.
Thank You.
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ISP Service, Cable
Modem Mfr: Motorola
Model: SB6121
ISP Speed I pay for 100Down and 5UP
Test results with the DGL-5500:85.90Down and 4.32UP
Test results of by passing the DGL-5500, disabling StreamBoost 100.04Down and 5.45UP
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What are they when SB is enabled?
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85.90Down and 4.32UP
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I really don't think there is a problem here. I think that this is part of the intelligent bandwidth and ping control of the Qualcomm chip.
My bet it is maintaining a reserve, in case a network device pull a demand request, and it can fulfill it without any lag issues for other network users.
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I really don't think there is a problem here. I think that this is part of the intelligent bandwidth and ping control of the Qualcomm chip.
My bet it is maintaining a reserve, in case a network device pull a demand request, and it can fulfill it without any lag issues for other network users.
That's actually a pretty intelligent guess. I just wish if that was the case someone from dlink would say so lol.
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I really don't think there is a problem here. I think that this is part of the intelligent bandwidth and ping control of the Qualcomm chip.
My bet it is maintaining a reserve, in case a network device pull a demand request, and it can fulfill it without any lag issues for other network users.
I was going to post something almost exactly like this. If you have devices on you network that are pulling even a few kbps you will not get you full advertised speeds. Try to do the test without any devices connected and SB enabled and see what happens. I have tried this and I have been getting full speeds without other devices connected.
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I was going to post something almost exactly like this. If you have devices on you network that are pulling even a few kbps you will not get you full advertised speeds. Try to do the test without any devices connected and SB enabled and see what happens. I have tried this and I have been getting full speeds without other devices connected.
I've never had to worry about that in the past though. I've had countless devices connected to my 4500 and it would get over 150 down without fail every single time.
my results with SB enabled
(http://www.speedtest.net/result/2879652447.png) (http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/2879652447)
my results without it
(http://www.speedtest.net/result/2879660504.png) (http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/2879660504)
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I change the IP address on the router and my computer to put them on the same network still get the same result.
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I have the same problems with SpeedBoost On. I pay for 15Meg down and 3Meg up. I consistently get 14.4Meg down & 2.85Meg up. With SpeedBoost on it drops to 12.6Meg down & 2.4Meg up. When I turn it off it goes right back up to 14.4Meg down & 2.85Meg up. Hope this helps . . . I wonder if this is a bug and will be fixed in a future software update?
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ISP Service, SkyBeam Wireless Broadband
Modem Mfr: SkyBeam Wireless Antenna System
Model: N/A
ISP Speed I pay for 15Down and 3UP
Test results with the DGL-5500:12.6Down and 2.4UP
Test results of by passing the DGL-5500, disabling StreamBoost 14.4Down and 3.85UP
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I have forwarded this to D-Link for review. Please be patient.
Thank you.
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I just had CenturyLink VDSL service set up (40Mb down / 5Mb up). I'm using an Actiontec C1000A modem. I have DISABLED WIRELESS and put the [Actiontec C1000A] modem in "TRANSPARENT BRIDGE" mode. I ran a speed test via Speedtest.net. My speeds were 37.50Mb down / 4.6Mb up.
I configured the DGL-5500 for PPPoE and connected it to the Actiontec C1000A modem (wireless disabled / transparent bridge mode). I ran a speed test via Speedtest.net and noticed a significant drop in speeds (17.50Mb down / 1.95Mb up), which was what I was getting with my cable internet (subscribed to 20Mb down / 2Mb up).
I decided to DISABLE STREAMBOOST BANDWIDTH CONTROL and test via Speedtest.org. My speeds jumped back up to 37.50Mb down / 4.6Mb up.
I went back and ENABLED STREAMBOOST BANDWIDTH CONTROL and had intermittent internet connection to all my networked devices (wired / wireless). I noticed the router was slow and unresponsive when I attempted to log back in. I attempted to click on MY NETWORKS and received the following prompt (error?) at the top of the screen: This page is used for StreamBoost. Click here to set up
StreamBoost. When I clicked on "here", I was brought to the STREAMBOOST page. Everything WAS SET to DEFAULT (ENABLE STREAMBOOST BANDWIDTH CONTROL - CHECKED). I did a restart. In fact, I did several restarts and when selecting MY NETWORKS, I get the same prompt (error?) message indicating I need to set up Streamboost.
I decided to reset the DGL-5500 to factory default. I ran the setup wizard and ran a speed test. I noticed my speeds were close to my subscribed 40Mb down / 5mb up. I selected MY NETWORKS and got the same prompt (error?) message.
I'M STUMPED! Is anyone else having issues with this? Can anyone offer other troubleshooting support?
Hopefully I've provided enough info.
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Was ALL the devices connected to the router OFF while you were setting up the router?
After you configured the PPPoE on the router, did you power off both Modem and router, then power ON the modem first, then the router? Then test?
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Was ALL the devices connected to the router OFF while you were setting up the router?
After you configured the PPPoE on the router, did you power off both Modem and router, then power ON the modem first, then the router? Then test?
Oops! ::) I will TRY again and do it the correct way. 8) Stay tuned :)
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After, that, do a test with SB disabled and enabled with out any other devices online. Then graduate adding the rest of the devices. Reserve them as you go....
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Yes
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I reset the DGL-5500 to factory default. Modem wired to DGL-5500 wired to PC. I am still getting the same issue when I select MY NETWORKS and PRIORITIES (This page is used for StreamBoost. Click here to set up StreamBoost.
No matter what I select within the STREAMBOOST menu, I can't seem to get it to function like it did when I was using cable internet.
>:(
I may try and just connect the DGL-5500 to my PC, reset to factory default, and then set up with just the DGL-5500 connected to my PC.
Any other suggestions / troubleshooting?
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What happens if you put the 5500 back on the Cable modem ISP?
I reset the DGL-5500 to factory default. Modem wired to DGL-5500 wired to PC. I am still getting the same issue when I select MY NETWORKS and PRIORITIES (This page is used for StreamBoost. Click here to set up StreamBoost.
No matter what I select within the STREAMBOOST menu, I can't seem to get it to function like it did when I was using cable internet.
>:(
I may try and just connect the DGL-5500 to my PC, reset to factory default, and then set up with just the DGL-5500 connected to my PC.
Any other suggestions / troubleshooting?
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I'm gonna try that next. If StreamBoost doesn't work, I broke it and it's going back to Fry's. I will go back to using the 857 as my router and the 4500 as the AP.
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I'm gonna try that next. If StreamBoost doesn't work, I broke it and it's going back to Fry's. I will go back to using the 857 as my router and the 4500 as the AP.
Sorry to hear that!!! Hopefully SB is not functioning correclty. I would do as Furry has suggested, Simplify your network and start adding clients slowly.
Stream Boost seems to working well for me thus far and really liking the router. I just reconfigured my DIR-857 and made it into a AP. Doing some speed tests and it's running slow on the 5GHZ. Possibly due to the fact I have the 857 connected to my DD-wrt linksys. Don't ask I have a crazy wireless network setup for the multiple clients I have here.
Gonna test the 857 Ap with the XBOX on the 5ghz and see what the results are. Currently I have the xbox 360 wirelessly connected to the 5500 over the 2.4 GHZ, speeds are great. The 5GHZ freqs are 1 bar to none, what a bummer
Just like to add, during testing of the 857 in AP mode I was in another room where the DGL-5500 was located and possible interference from that 5ghz wireless. Retested the 857 AP downstairs and this thing is smokin' fast connected to my linksys 160N. I have both 2.4 &5 GHZ and guest networking active. Crazy.
The DGL-5500 is the main router and all 5 of my routers depend on it. Thus far the 5500 is working well, if the 5ghz wireless amp were stronger I would be a happy camper.
Bigshooter, my suggestion would be connect your 5500 to your cable modem and 1 desktop pc and 1 wireless client, just to TEST its ability to handle SB.
Would like to have you a happy customer, hopefully it's just settings.
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BiggShooter
I had the same problem this what I had to get the router working back normal with no rest.
Check your router to see if you have Enable Auto Bandwidth Estimation is check an if so does it have all zero are blank there the router freaks out if you do not have number in there. You have to uncheck the button save it let router reboot then put your upload and down in there then save it again reboot the router and that should fix your problem. You may have to power it off then back on after all that but it.
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I presume that ABE is now disabled for you entirely?
BiggShooter
I had the same problem this what I had to get the router working back normal with no rest.
Check your router to see if you have Enable Auto Bandwidth Estimation is check an if so does it have all zero are blank there the router freaks out if you do not have number in there. You have to uncheck the button save it let router reboot then put your upload and down in there then save it again reboot the router and that should fix your problem. You may have to power it off then back on after all that but it.
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I just had CenturyLink VDSL service set up (40Mb down / 5Mb up). I'm using an Actiontec C1000A modem. I have DISABLED WIRELESS and put the [Actiontec C1000A] modem in "TRANSPARENT BRIDGE" mode. I ran a speed test via Speedtest.net. My speeds were 37.50Mb down / 4.6Mb up.
I configured the DGL-5500 for PPPoE and connected it to the Actiontec C1000A modem (wireless disabled / transparent bridge mode). I ran a speed test via Speedtest.net and noticed a significant drop in speeds (17.50Mb down / 1.95Mb up), which was what I was getting with my cable internet (subscribed to 20Mb down / 2Mb up).
I decided to DISABLE STREAMBOOST BANDWIDTH CONTROL and test via Speedtest.org. My speeds jumped back up to 37.50Mb down / 4.6Mb up.
I went back and ENABLED STREAMBOOST BANDWIDTH CONTROL and had intermittent internet connection to all my networked devices (wired / wireless). I noticed the router was slow and unresponsive when I attempted to log back in. I attempted to click on MY NETWORKS and received the following prompt (error?) at the top of the screen: This page is used for StreamBoost. Click here to set up
StreamBoost. When I clicked on "here", I was brought to the STREAMBOOST page. Everything WAS SET to DEFAULT (ENABLE STREAMBOOST BANDWIDTH CONTROL - CHECKED). I did a restart. In fact, I did several restarts and when selecting MY NETWORKS, I get the same prompt (error?) message indicating I need to set up Streamboost.
I decided to reset the DGL-5500 to factory default. I ran the setup wizard and ran a speed test. I noticed my speeds were close to my subscribed 40Mb down / 5mb up. I selected MY NETWORKS and got the same prompt (error?) message.
I'M STUMPED! Is anyone else having issues with this? Can anyone offer other troubleshooting support?
Hopefully I've provided enough info.
I'm having the same issue, When I enable Auto Bandwidth Estimation the router caps my download and upload speeds alot lower then what they should be.
I'm with comcast and subscribe to 50/10 internet speeds and never had any issues reaching theses speeds before this router. When I enable the Bandwidth Estimation I'm getting 16.5mb download and 3.5mb upload speeds. With Bandwidth Estimation turned off I'm back to speeds around 56mb download and 8.5mb upload.
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What model ISP modem do you have?
I'm having the same issue, When I enable Auto Bandwidth Estimation the router caps my download and upload speeds alot lower then what they should be.
I'm with comcast and subscribe to 50/10 internet speeds and never had any issues reaching theses speeds before this router. When I enable the Bandwidth Estimation I'm getting 16.5mb download and 3.5mb upload speeds. With Bandwidth Estimation turned off I'm back to speeds around 56mb download and 8.5mb upload.
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Here are my results with and without SB. I ran each 10 times, each time I got the same max and same discprepency.
NO SB
(http://stage.results.speedtest.comcast.net/result/290452572.png)
SB ON [ABE ON]
(http://stage.results.speedtest.comcast.net/result/290467142.png)
SB ON [ABE OFF]
(http://stage.results.speedtest.comcast.net/result/290472152.png)
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Awesome, thank you for testing and posting your results. Seems like ABE could be the culprit to the decrease in speeds. I'll forward this to D-Link.
Thank you.
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What model ISP modem do you have?
I'm with comcast using a Motorola Surfboard SB6120.
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This is with Stream boost Auto Bandwidth Estimation turned off.
(http://www.speedtest.net/result/2885418943.png) (http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/2885418943)
This is with Stream boost Auto Estimation turn on.
(http://www.speedtest.net/result/2885423929.png) (http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/2885423929)
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I just had CenturyLink VDSL service set up (40Mb down / 5Mb up). I'm using an Actiontec C1000A modem. I have DISABLED WIRELESS and put the [Actiontec C1000A] modem in "TRANSPARENT BRIDGE" mode. I ran a speed test via Speedtest.net. My speeds were 37.50Mb down / 4.6Mb up.
I configured the DGL-5500 for PPPoE and connected it to the Actiontec C1000A modem (wireless disabled / transparent bridge mode). I ran a speed test via Speedtest.net and noticed a significant drop in speeds (17.50Mb down / 1.95Mb up), which was what I was getting with my cable internet (subscribed to 20Mb down / 2Mb up).
I decided to DISABLE STREAMBOOST BANDWIDTH CONTROL and test via Speedtest.org. My speeds jumped back up to 37.50Mb down / 4.6Mb up.
I went back and ENABLED STREAMBOOST BANDWIDTH CONTROL and had intermittent internet connection to all my networked devices (wired / wireless). I noticed the router was slow and unresponsive when I attempted to log back in. I attempted to click on MY NETWORKS and received the following prompt (error?) at the top of the screen: This page is used for StreamBoost. Click here to set up
StreamBoost. When I clicked on "here", I was brought to the STREAMBOOST page. Everything WAS SET to DEFAULT (ENABLE STREAMBOOST BANDWIDTH CONTROL - CHECKED). I did a restart. In fact, I did several restarts and when selecting MY NETWORKS, I get the same prompt (error?) message indicating I need to set up Streamboost.
I decided to reset the DGL-5500 to factory default. I ran the setup wizard and ran a speed test. I noticed my speeds were close to my subscribed 40Mb down / 5mb up. I selected MY NETWORKS and got the same prompt (error?) message.
I'M STUMPED! Is anyone else having issues with this? Can anyone offer other troubleshooting support?
Hopefully I've provided enough info.
**UPDATE**
I ended up replacing the Actiontec C1000A with another Actiontec C1000A as I determined the modem was faulty.
I configured the Actiontec C1000A to operate in "Transparent Bridging" mode and DISABLED "Wireless" to prevent the modem from transmitting a wireless signal.
I reset the DGL-5500 to factory defaults, rebooted, and set up INTERNET (PPPoE), WIRELESS SETTINGS, NETWORK SETTINGS (disabled DNS Relay / Reserved IP addresses for all devices on my network), and STREAMBOOST to work with my desired home network configuration. I DISABLED / UNCHECKED the following in STREAMBOOST:
*Enable StreamBoost Bandwidth Control**
*Enable Auto Bandwidth Estimation**
I am happy to post all is working like it should be ;D with the exception of no devices being displayed in MY NETWORK and no devices being displayed in PRIORITIES. I'm assuming this is a result of the options selected in the STREAMBOOST tab. I plan to start testing by enabling / disabling different options within StreamBoost.
My ultimate satisfaction would be to not have download / upload speeds affected, be able to view my network devices within MY NETWORK, and prioritize my network devices within PRIORITIES :).
That's all for now - off to bed! 8)
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**UPDATE**
I ended up replacing the Actiontec C1000A with another Actiontec C1000A as I determined the modem was faulty.
I configured the Actiontec C1000A to operate in "Transparent Bridging" mode and DISABLED "Wireless" to prevent the modem from transmitting a wireless signal.
I reset the DGL-5500 to factory defaults, rebooted, and set up INTERNET (PPPoE), WIRELESS SETTINGS, NETWORK SETTINGS (disabled DNS Relay / Reserved IP addresses for all devices on my network), and STREAMBOOST to work with my desired home network configuration. I DISABLED / UNCHECKED the following in STREAMBOOST:
*Enable StreamBoost Bandwidth Control**
*Enable Auto Bandwidth Estimation**
I am happy to post all is working like it should be ;D with the exception of no devices being displayed in MY NETWORK and no devices being displayed in PRIORITIES. I'm assuming this is a result of the options selected in the STREAMBOOST tab. I plan to start testing by enabling / disabling different options within StreamBoost.
My ultimate satisfaction would be to not have download / upload speeds affected, be able to view my network devices within MY NETWORK, and prioritize my network devices within PRIORITIES :).
That's all for now - off to bed! 8)
Glad to see it is all working, the cause of it all ....a faulty modem. Congrats to you. Perseverance till 2AM, must have a lot of energy/motivation.
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Any he did it all on his own. Woo Hoo. ;D
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Any he did it all on his own. Woo Hoo. ;D
It's all the first-hand training I've had over the years ;D at the FurryNutz School of Networking ;D
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Glad to see it is all working, the cause of it all ....a faulty modem. Congrats to you. Perseverance till 2AM, must have a lot of energy/motivation.
Regarding the Actiontec modem - It ranks as one of the worst pieces of networking equipment I've ever used. At this point, I have no other options for routers that support VDSL and 40Mbps down / 5Mbps up. After making changes in the GUI to support my home network configuration (Transparent Bridging / Disable Wireless), I cannot access the GUI of the Actiontec modem via a direct wired connection from laptop / desktop. I had to reset the modem to be able to access the GUI. I am running the latest firmware (thought maybe an update would address the issue). I even changed the IP address of the modem so it didn't conflict with my home network IP address range.
It would be nice if Motorola or D-Link would produce a VDSL modem 8)
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Just FYI, once any DSL modem is put into bridge mode, the modems web page can no longer be accessed. To regain access, ya, the modem has to be reset. Just the nature of that beast. ;)
Regarding the Actiontec modem - It ranks as one of the worst pieces of networking equipment I've ever used. At this point, I have no other options for routers that support VDSL and 40Mbps down / 5Mbps up. After making changes in the GUI to support my home network configuration (Transparent Bridging / Disable Wireless), I cannot access the GUI of the Actiontec modem via a direct wired connection from laptop / desktop. I had to reset the modem to be able to access the GUI. I am running the latest firmware (thought maybe an update would address the issue). I even changed the IP address of the modem so it didn't conflict with my home network IP address range.
It would be nice if Motorola or D-Link would produce a VDSL modem 8)
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Just FYI, once any DSL modem is put into bridge mode, the modems web page can no longer be accessed. To regain access, ya, the modem has to be reset. Just the nature of that beast. ;)
Thanks Furry! Once again I learn something new. I now know more than TIER I Actiontec modem support! ;D
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I did a factory reset due to a VPN passthrough issue, after reconfiguring this bandwidth discrepency with ABE on has gone away. I now get max throughput with ABE on or off. If you are seeing a difference i'd suggest a factory reset and trying again.
Here are my results with and without SB. I ran each 10 times, each time I got the same max and same discprepency.
NO SB
(http://stage.results.speedtest.comcast.net/result/290452572.png)
SB ON [ABE ON]
(http://stage.results.speedtest.comcast.net/result/290467142.png)
SB ON [ABE OFF]
(http://stage.results.speedtest.comcast.net/result/290472152.png)
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I did a factory reset due to a VPN passthrough issue, after reconfiguring this bandwidth discrepency with ABE on has gone away. I now get max throughput with ABE on or off. If you are seeing a difference i'd suggest a factory reset and trying again.
Good to see your getting MAX throughput with ABE on or off!!
HMMM...I wonder if I should ENABLE / CHECK Enable Auto Bandwidth Estimation? Right now it's disabled due to the bandwidth discrepancy users were having.
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Anyone view there logs and see an entry called StreamBoost Update? I thought I saw one today. Not sure if thats part of the boot process or an actual update.
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Just looked......that's a negative for me , will check tomorrow morning
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I'm from Europe (I imported the DGL-5500 as it's unavailable here) and also I am seeing quite a big difference in Streamboost on and off.
For testing, the only cable connected to the router is my PC/
With streamboost: 120.8 Mbps down , 13.1 Mbps up
Without streamboost: 151.1 Mbps down, 14.4 Mbps up
I did not checkbox "enable auto bandwidth estimation"
Download speed is set to 150.00 Mbps and Upload speed is set to 15.00 Mbps
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Factory reset your 5500 then try again with Streamboost on, that fixed it for me.
I'm from Europe (I imported the DGL-5500 as it's unavailable here) and also I am seeing quite a big difference in Streamboost on and off.
For testing, the only cable connected to the router is my PC/
With streamboost: 120.8 Mbps down , 13.1 Mbps up
Without streamboost: 151.1 Mbps down, 14.4 Mbps up
I did not checkbox "enable auto bandwidth estimation"
Download speed is set to 150.00 Mbps and Upload speed is set to 15.00 Mbps
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Just be aware that the DGL-5500 may not be support in your region and could be some incompatibilities in cross region usage...
I'm from Europe (I imported the DGL-5500 as it's unavailable here) and also I am seeing quite a big difference in Streamboost on and off.
For testing, the only cable connected to the router is my PC/
With streamboost: 120.8 Mbps down , 13.1 Mbps up
Without streamboost: 151.1 Mbps down, 14.4 Mbps up
I did not checkbox "enable auto bandwidth estimation"
Download speed is set to 150.00 Mbps and Upload speed is set to 15.00 Mbps
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I reset my DGL-5500 because of slower connection speeds with SpeedBoost on and Bandwidth Estimation on. Speeds went back to normal. I checked it again later in the day and the speeds went back to the lower speeds prior to resetting to factory settings. Is it possible that the missing bandwidth is some sort of a reserve for SpeedBoost to function? It may take a little time to adjust the router after a reset thats why it is back to normal speeds temporarily. It may have to calibrate before it takes that bandwidth. It also takes a bit for it to start recognizing your devices.
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What are your speeds with SB ON and ABE OFF?
I reset my DGL-5500 because of slower connection speeds with SpeedBoost on and Bandwidth Estimation on. Speeds went back to normal. I checked it again later in the day and the speeds went back to the lower speeds prior to resetting to factory settings. Is it possible that the missing bandwidth is some sort of a reserve for SpeedBoost to function? It may take a little time to adjust the router after a reset thats why it is back to normal speeds temporarily. It may have to calibrate before it takes that bandwidth. It also takes a bit for it to start recognizing your devices.
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Speeds with SpeedBoast Off 14.40 down and 2.85 Up. Speeds with SpeedBoost ON 12.69 Down 2.39 Up. My connection is 15 Meg Down and 3 Meg Up . . .
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What are your speeds with SB ON and ABE OFF?
Speeds with SpeedBoast Off 14.40 down and 2.85 Up. Speeds with SpeedBoost ON 12.69 Down 2.39 Up. My connection is 15 Meg Down and 3 Meg Up . . .
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My speeds with SB ON and ABE OFF are 12.33 Meg Down & 2.86 Down . . .
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I shut off both SpeedBoost & Bandwidth have full normal speed 14.40 Down & 2.85 Up . . . .
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what model router did you have before? Just curious...I presume the speeds were correct on it?
I shut off both SpeedBoost & Bandwidth have full normal speed 14.40 Down & 2.85 Up . . . .
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I shut on both SpeedBoost & Bandwidth after testing and now have full normal speed 14.40 Down & 2.85 Up . . . .It is definitely a bug . . . . .
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ASUS RT-N66U Dual-Band Wireless-N900 Gigabit Router and ran Tomato Shibby Firmware
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Any status on this? Try the new FW? ???
This is with Stream boost Auto Bandwidth Estimation turned off.
(http://www.speedtest.net/result/2885418943.png) (http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/2885418943)
This is with Stream boost Auto Estimation turn on.
(http://www.speedtest.net/result/2885423929.png) (http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/2885423929)
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I think it has been said before but Streamboost or any kind of QOS is designed to create a bottleneck between your router and the internet. The purpose being is if the bottle neck is at your router, you can control it and design it to better work with your ISP. I saw this personally with the PS4 where it would show upstream packet loss unless I capped the outbound speed to a certain amount. Think of it like speed control on a car so that it starts and stops less on the way to its location, and thus making it take longer to get there.
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Well, SB is supposed to be handling this automatically and to spec. We are seeing some bad issues and some good. Mines working at the moment with SB and ABE enabled. :-\
User need to follow this for allowing SB and ABE to fully get things going:
New DGL-5500 Only Firmware Update Process! (http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=59844.0)
I think it has been said before but Streamboost or any kind of QOS is designed to create a bottleneck between your router and the internet. The purpose being is if the bottle neck is at your router, you can control it and design it to better work with your ISP. I saw this personally with the PS4 where it would show upstream packet loss unless I capped the outbound speed to a certain amount. Think of it like speed control on a car so that it starts and stops less on the way to its location, and thus making it take longer to get there.