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Title: How to support pxe on this router?
Post by: timnboys on October 24, 2013, 03:49:04 PM
How to support pxe on this router?
I need to know how to setup pxe on this router so that I can use windows deployment services on my server to use acronis backup & recovery to image my machines.
Btw, my old linksys e1000 supported this out of the box I think because when I tried using my dhcp server on my server2008r2 machine the pc's got the right pxe boot and went straight to the acronis image....and I still had dhcp enabled on the linksys e1000....Is this possible on this router too? and why does one change prevent my devices from connecting wirelessly when I change something like turning off dhcp, etc. like for example my sister's phone keeps saying "Avoided Poor Internet Connection" when I do something like this....and I want to know why this happens for? she is using android and the phone model is htc one x(if anyone needed to know that.) please help me with my questions because I hope I didn't get a bad router off of amazon(which this router isn't bad if it wasn't for the problems above because it helps me keep wireless intruders off my network easier, because I get a email and I know instantly that I need to block someone, it's way easier than monitoring the dhcp client log on the linksys e1000 but anyway.)
So if someone could please help me with this issues above, it would be nice.

Also I have issues with my router losing internet connection intermittently or occasionally...it happens because I have to reboot my modem every few days, because my website(vps hosted) doesn't work without rebooting, and when I do this, this router keeps losing the internet even when my server(not the website my vps I was talking about, this is my home server) isn't down(because I have to use my servers dns for ad)[/u]...but I still have that problem...and was hoping someone could help me with it.

Router Specs:[/u]
Dlink Dir-605L Hardware Version: Ax
Firmware: 1.14
USA in florida
Wired and some of my computers are wireless
No Factory Reset has been performed because I didn't think this issue requires it.
No I haven't upgraded the firmware, so I don't know about resetting after and before firmware upgrade
Yes the router was working before firmware updates(not, that there has been any.)
I have DSL
Embarq 660 Modem
I don't know my isp up and down speeds all I know is we pay for 1.5kb of speed.
Title: Re: How to support pxe on this router?
Post by: FurryNutz on October 25, 2013, 10:13:47 AM
Link>Welcome! (http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=41537.0)


Internet Service Provider and Modem Configurations

Router and Wired Configurations
Some things to try: - Log into the routers web page at 192.168.0.1. Use IE, Opera or FF to manage the router.
Title: Re: How to support pxe on this router?
Post by: timnboys on October 25, 2013, 10:32:33 AM
Link>Welcome! (http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=41537.0)

  • What Hardware version is your router? Look at sticker under router.
  • Link>What Firmware (http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=47512.0) version is currently loaded? Found on the routers web page under status.
  • What region are you located?
  • Are you wired or wireless connected to the router?
  • Has a Factory Reset been performed?

Internet Service Provider and Modem Configurations
  • What ISP Service do you have? Cable or DSL?
  • What ISP Modem Mfr. and model # do you have?
  • What ISP Modem service link speeds UP and Down do you have?
  • If this modem has a built in router, it's best to bridge the modem. Having 2 routers on the same line can cause connection problems: Link>Double NAT (http://www.practicallynetworked.com/networking/fixing_double_nat.htm) and How NAT Works (http://cognitiveanomalies.com/cisco-nat-how-nat-works/). To tell if the modem is bridged or not, look at the routers web page, Status/Device Info/Wan Section, if there is a 192.168.0.# address in the WAN IP address field, then the modem is not bridged. If the modem can't be bridged then see if the modem has a DMZ option and input the IP address the router gets from the modem and put that into the modems DMZ.
  • Check ISP MTU requirements, Cable is usually 1500, DSL is around 1492 down to 1472. Call the ISP and ask. Link>Checking MTU Values (http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=53008.0)
  • For DSL/PPPoE connections on the router, ensure that "Always ON" option is enabled.

Router and Wired Configurations
Some things to try: - Log into the routers web page at 192.168.0.1. Use IE, Opera or FF to manage the router.
  • Turn off ALL QoS (http://vonage.nmhoy.net/qos.html) or Disable Traffic Shaping (DIR only) GameFuel (DGL only and if ON.) options, Advanced/QoS (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quality_of_service) or Gamefuel.
  • Turn off Advanced DNS Services if you have this option under Setup/Internet/Manual or under Setup/PARENTAL CONTROL/Set to>None: Static IP or Obtain Automatically From ISP.
  • Enable Use Unicasting (compatibility for some ISP DHCP Servers) under Setup/Internet/Manual.
  • Turn on DNS Relay under Setup/Networking. Link>Finding Faster DNS Addresses using Name Bench (http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=53222.0)
  • Setup DHCP reserved IP addresses for all devices ON the router. Setup/Networking. This ensures each devices gets its own IP address when turned on and connected, eliminates IP address conflicts and helps in troubleshooting.
  • Ensure devices are set to auto obtain an IP address.
  • If IPv6 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ipv6) is an option on the router, select Local Connection Only or Disable IPv6 options under Setup/IPv6.
  • Set Firewall settings to Endpoint Independent for TCP and UDP under Advanced/Firewall. Enable or Disable SPI (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SPI) to test.
  • Enable uPnP (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Upnp) and Multi-cast Streaming (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multicast) under Advanced/Networking. Disable uPnP for testing Port Forwarding rules. Enable IPv6 Multi-cast Streaming for routers that have a Media Server option. Disable IPv6 Multi-cast Streaming if IPv6 or Media Server is not being used.
  • Turn off WISH, and WPS under Advanced.
  • WAN Port Speed set to Auto or specific speed? Some newer ISP modems support 1000Mb so manually setting to Gb speeds can be supported by the router. Advanced/Advanced Networking/WAN Port Speed
  • Set current Time Zone, Date and Time. Use an NTP Server (http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=48695.0) feature. Tools/Time.
  • Check cable between Modem and Router, swap out to be sure. Link> Cat6 is recommended. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CAT6)
My hardware version is Ax
Firmware currently loaded is 1.14
USA in florida
Wired, I am currently on my server posting this....but I do have wireless computers also.
No a Factory data reset hasn't been performed because I didn't think that needed to be done to fix the pxe issues.
I have dsl
my modem is a embarq 660 modem
well I know we pay for 1.5 mpbs speed
If you need to know more I can tell you.
Title: Re: How to support pxe on this router?
Post by: FurryNutz on October 25, 2013, 10:46:10 AM
Is the ISP modem in bridge mode or normal mode? We recommend bridge mode and let the 605L handle the PPPoE connection.

If the modem can't be bridge, use the DMZ on the ISP modem in put the IP address the 605L router gets into the DMZ.

Either one of these options should help keep the router connected, even if the ISP modem is rebooted.

As for PXE, no experience with it here. Is this something done between devices on the LAN to LAN side or WAN to LAN side? Possible use of Virtual Server could be set up if this is a WAN to LAN operation however you'll need to ensure that your 605L is getting a Public IP address on the WAN side or it probably won't work.
Title: Re: How to support pxe on this router?
Post by: timnboys on October 25, 2013, 10:53:53 AM
Is the ISP modem in bridge mode or normal mode? We recommend bridge mode and let the 605L handle the PPPoE connection.

If the modem can't be bridge, use the DMZ on the ISP modem in put the IP address the 605L router gets into the DMZ.

Either one of these options should help keep the router connected, even if the ISP modem is rebooted.

As for PXE, no experience with it here. Is this something done between devices on the LAN to LAN side or WAN to LAN side? Possible use of Virtual Server could be set up if this is a WAN to LAN operation however you'll need to ensure that your 605L is getting a Public IP address on the WAN side or it probably won't work.
Yes it is in bridge mode I just changed it to that mode.
PXE is between lan and lan side.[/u]
I am basically using PXE for acronis, and for windows deployment services, which uses PXE to boot computers over the network to be imaged by acronis.[/u]
Title: Re: How to support pxe on this router?
Post by: FurryNutz on October 25, 2013, 10:56:12 AM
Well that makes it simpler then. if the PXE isn't working with these devices connected on the LAN side with this router, then just install an external GB Network switch and that should solve that. Switches are recommended even with routers. I use a 24 pt and 8 pt with mine.

Shouldn't need any router configurations...
Title: Re: How to support pxe on this router?
Post by: timnboys on October 25, 2013, 11:03:31 AM
Well that makes it simpler then. if the PXE isn't working with these devices connected on the LAN side with this router, then just install an external GB Network switch and that should solve that. Switches are recommended even with routers. I use a 24 pt and 8 pt with mine.

Shouldn't need any router configurations...
OK then would a old linksys 5 port switch work?[/u]
Because I have a 24 port lg/nortel switch in my room but I don't want to give it up that easy  ;D
Also do I just disconnect all the computers from the router and then connect all the cords into the linksys 5 port switch and then connect one network cable from the router to the switch, would that work?
[/u]
Title: Re: How to support pxe on this router?
Post by: FurryNutz on October 25, 2013, 11:09:28 AM
That will work just fine. Yes, One LAN cable from the back for the router to the switch and then all required connections from the switch to the desired PCs.

You can still use any open LAN ports on the router for those that don't need to be on the switch.  ;)
Title: Re: How to support pxe on this router?
Post by: timnboys on October 25, 2013, 11:32:25 AM
That will work just fine. Yes, One LAN cable from the back for the router to the switch and then all required connections from the switch to the desired PCs.

You can still use any open LAN ports on the router for those that don't need to be on the switch.  ;)
Ok so now when I boot my pc's up to be imaged they say[/u]
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"No BootFile Retrieved"
Or they say
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"Media Test Failure, Please Check Cable"
How Do I fix this?[/u]
Also I just want to say thanks for your help so far, you have helped me alot so far.[/u]
Title: Re: How to support pxe on this router?
Post by: FurryNutz on October 25, 2013, 11:38:46 AM
All PCs including PXE server is on the same switch? It should work. Make sure your cables are in good working order. Make sure the switch is working by checking and Internet site from PC connected PC thru the switch. It should get Internet regardless.
Title: Re: How to support pxe on this router?
Post by: timnboys on October 25, 2013, 11:42:19 AM
All PCs including PXE server is on the same switch? It should work. Make sure your cables are in good working order. Make sure the switch is working by checking and Internet site from PC connected PC thru the switch. It should get Internet regardless.
Yes All PCs including the PXE server is on the same switch. I will check to see if they are in good working order(but how do you do this?) And yes I will go and check the internet from PC connected thru the switch to see if I hooked it up right.[/u]
Again Thanks for your help so far.[/u]
Title: Re: How to support pxe on this router?
Post by: FurryNutz on October 25, 2013, 11:46:21 AM
Make sure your getting an IP address from the 605L. I recommend setting up reserved IP addresses for ALL devices ON the router, that way you know what is what and the same IP address gets assigned each time to those devices.

If there getting IP addresses from the router, Internet should be accessible as well.

What model is the switch?

Here to help out.
Title: Re: How to support pxe on this router?
Post by: timnboys on October 25, 2013, 11:52:13 AM
Make sure your getting an IP address from the 605L. I recommend setting up reserved IP addresses for ALL devices, that way you know what is what and the same IP address gets assigned each time to those devices.

If there getting IP addresses from the router, Internet should be accessible as well.

What model is the switch?

Here to help out.
Yes my server I am currently on is getting the ip, and don't worry my servers and my "critical" equipment like servers, security cameras, etc. I always setup with a dhcp reservation so that I don't need to keep learning the ip over and over again  ;)[/u]
And the model of the linksys switch is:  
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EZXS55W ver 4.2
Title: Re: How to support pxe on this router?
Post by: FurryNutz on October 25, 2013, 12:17:41 PM
Ok, that switch should work well and PCs should communicate thru it with out needing much from the router. Should work for you.
Title: Re: How to support pxe on this router?
Post by: timnboys on October 25, 2013, 12:19:23 PM
Ok, that switch should work well and PCs should communicate thru it with out needing much from the router. Should work for you.
So does that mean the dhcp on my server I posting from should allow the PCs to get the bootfile name and the boot server(this server)? or would I have to do something else to get my PCs to boot up from my wds server?
Title: Re: How to support pxe on this router?
Post by: FurryNutz on October 25, 2013, 12:32:00 PM
I presume it the PC should be getting the information they need from this Server if they are all connected to the same switch an on same IP address pool and subnet. Is this Server handing out IPs or just handing out the PXE services? There should be only 1 DHCP services being handed out, from the 605L router. All others should be getting the IP addresses from the router and any services like PXE should be seen by the PCs from this PXE server...I would presume that the PXE on the clients just need to be configured and directed to the PXE server's IP address to connect to. From there PXE is in your ball park.
Title: Re: How to support pxe on this router?
Post by: timnboys on October 25, 2013, 01:02:02 PM
I presume it the PC should be getting the information they need from this Server if they are all connected to the same switch an on same IP address pool and subnet. Is this Server handing out IPs or just handing out the PXE services? There should be only 1 DHCP services being handed out, from the 605L router. All others should be getting the IP addresses from the router and any services like PXE should be seen by the PCs from this PXE server...I would presume that the PXE on the clients just need to be configured and directed to the PXE server's IP address to connect to. From there PXE is in your ball park.
I don't know because the PC keeps giving me "No Boot filename received"....The server has dhcp because I was hoping to set it up as a proxy-dhcp so that I could let the 605L router do dhcp, and my server only do proxy-dhcp and only hand out pxe settings, but I really don't know how to set it up that way...and how would I forward broadcasts from port 67 to the wds server like in this article? http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc771670(v=ws.10).aspx#BKMK_ConfiguringDS (http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc771670(v=ws.10).aspx#BKMK_ConfiguringDS)
Please help me...And no I don't think it is handing out ip's because when I check dhcp leases on it nothing ever shows up in it, so I guess not. and Yes I hope it is only giving out pxe services.
And also how do I
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configure the clients so they are directed to the PXE server's IP address, to connect to?
Please help me with these issues thank you.
Title: Re: How to support pxe on this router?
Post by: FurryNutz on October 25, 2013, 01:17:37 PM
You'll need to get on some PXE forums or support sites for working with PXE. I never got into using it. I did review some of it years ago however found it a bit too complicated and went with Nortons Ghost Server and Ghost imaging platform for a lab I did. We had boot CDs for each PC that needed to be imaged and users could select what images they needed, the PC ran the boot and ghost script and selected the desired image files from the Ghost Server which had 2 RAID drives for max storage. Ran well. There was a Server 2003 set up as a subnet server handing out IPs and Internet for the lab, All other PCs and the Ghost server was all connected via Gb Switch to the 2003 Server PC.

Title: Re: How to support pxe on this router?
Post by: FurryNutz on October 25, 2013, 01:23:29 PM
Some sites for PXE:
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb680668.aspx (http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb680668.aspx)

http://www.ehow.com/how_10037489_install-pxe.html (http://www.ehow.com/how_10037489_install-pxe.html)

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/891275 (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/891275)

http://ping.windowsdream.com/ping/doc-2.01/pxe.html (http://ping.windowsdream.com/ping/doc-2.01/pxe.html)
Title: Re: How to support pxe on this router?
Post by: timnboys on November 17, 2013, 06:07:33 PM
Link>Welcome! (http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=41537.0)

  • What Hardware version is your router? Look at sticker under router.
  • Link>What Firmware (http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=47512.0) version is currently loaded? Found on the routers web page under status.
  • What region are you located?
  • Are you wired or wireless connected to the router?
  • Has a Factory Reset been performed?

Internet Service Provider and Modem Configurations
  • What ISP Service do you have? Cable or DSL?
  • What ISP Modem Mfr. and model # do you have?
  • What ISP Modem service link speeds UP and Down do you have?
  • If this modem has a built in router, it's best to bridge the modem. Having 2 routers on the same line can cause connection problems: Link>Double NAT (http://www.practicallynetworked.com/networking/fixing_double_nat.htm) and How NAT Works (http://cognitiveanomalies.com/cisco-nat-how-nat-works/). To tell if the modem is bridged or not, look at the routers web page, Status/Device Info/Wan Section, if there is a 192.168.0.# address in the WAN IP address field, then the modem is not bridged. If the modem can't be bridged then see if the modem has a DMZ option and input the IP address the router gets from the modem and put that into the modems DMZ.
  • Check ISP MTU requirements, Cable is usually 1500, DSL is around 1492 down to 1472. Call the ISP and ask. Link>Checking MTU Values (http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=53008.0)
  • For DSL/PPPoE connections on the router, ensure that "Always ON" option is enabled.

Router and Wired Configurations
Some things to try: - Log into the routers web page at 192.168.0.1. Use IE, Opera or FF to manage the router.
  • Turn off ALL QoS (http://vonage.nmhoy.net/qos.html) or Disable Traffic Shaping (DIR only) GameFuel (DGL only and if ON.) options, Advanced/QoS (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quality_of_service) or Gamefuel.
  • Turn off Advanced DNS Services if you have this option under Setup/Internet/Manual or under Setup/PARENTAL CONTROL/Set to>None: Static IP or Obtain Automatically From ISP.
  • Enable Use Unicasting (compatibility for some ISP DHCP Servers) under Setup/Internet/Manual.
  • Turn on DNS Relay under Setup/Networking. Link>Finding Faster DNS Addresses using Name Bench (http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=53222.0)
  • Setup DHCP reserved IP addresses for all devices ON the router. Setup/Networking. This ensures each devices gets its own IP address when turned on and connected, eliminates IP address conflicts and helps in troubleshooting.
  • Ensure devices are set to auto obtain an IP address.
  • If IPv6 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ipv6) is an option on the router, select Local Connection Only or Disable IPv6 options under Setup/IPv6.
  • Set Firewall settings to Endpoint Independent for TCP and UDP under Advanced/Firewall. Enable or Disable SPI (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SPI) to test.
  • Enable uPnP (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Upnp) and Multi-cast Streaming (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multicast) under Advanced/Networking. Disable uPnP for testing Port Forwarding rules. Enable IPv6 Multi-cast Streaming for routers that have a Media Server option. Disable IPv6 Multi-cast Streaming if IPv6 or Media Server is not being used.
  • Turn off WISH, and WPS under Advanced.
  • WAN Port Speed set to Auto or specific speed? Some newer ISP modems support 1000Mb so manually setting to Gb speeds can be supported by the router. Advanced/Advanced Networking/WAN Port Speed
  • Set current Time Zone, Date and Time. Use an NTP Server (http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=48695.0) feature. Tools/Time.
  • Check cable between Modem and Router, swap out to be sure. Link> Cat6 is recommended. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CAT6)
I bridged my modem and you know what happened my internet speeds went into the ground....I have centurylink and I was on the phone with them for almost a hour trying to figure out why my internet was so slow....You know what they told me Do NOT bridge your modem!!!!
They told me my router Should NEVER control my internet(which is what my router was doing after bridge my modem),and that it should have NEVER been bridged to start with
So Next Time Please warn me and other people too so that they don't have to sit on the phone with centurylink tech support for almost one hour just to find out that my whole problem with the internet being slow was that I was NOT supposed to bridge my modem if I have centurylink as ISP(Internet Service Provider)
Title: Re: How to support pxe on this router?
Post by: FurryNutz on November 17, 2013, 06:22:01 PM
Actually its preferred to briage ISP modems if your going to use an external router as this can cause as double NAT condition. ISPs will generally not recommend this as they dont want users using external routers, there equipment only and dont officially support any HW besides there own. The agent you problably talked to didnt have the knowledge nor motovated to correcly bridge the ISP modem. There are many Century Link modems that can be bridged correctly am make to work well with DLink routers.

If you going to keep the ISP modem as your main modem and built in router, i suggest that yiur return the DLink router and get you a DLink DAP model AP device to provide you with wireless and wired network abilities and let the ISP modem as your main router. You didn't answer the question of which ISP modem you have before proceeding.

Good luck.
Title: Re: How to support pxe on this router?
Post by: timnboys on November 18, 2013, 05:37:42 AM
Actually its preferred to briage ISP modems if your going to use an external router as this can cause as double NAT condition. ISPs will generally not recommend this as they dont want users using external routers, there equipment only and dont officially support any HW besides there own. The agent you problably talked to didnt have the knowledge nor motovated to correcly bridge the ISP modem. There are many Century Link modems that can be bridged correctly am make to work well with DLink routers.

If you going to keep the ISP modem as your main modem and built in router, i suggest that yiur return the DLink router and get you a DLink DAP model AP device to provide you with wireless and wired network abilities and let the ISP modem as your main router. You didn't answer the question of which ISP modem you have before proceeding.
Good luck.
I have a embarq 660 modem(I do not have a centurylink modem because I am not paying $100 to buy one and I am not going to rent it and pay monthly for it when it should be given free for paying for the service.)
I am using my modem just to feed the internet to the dlink router and block any attacks(that I am not sure even happened, and this happened when my modem was bridged to my router...and like I said every time(about every second) it would be dropping a packet from some attack that I don't really think happened and it was slowing my network down bad...I could not even check facebook or gmail or youtube or anything without it being slow and let me tell you I am paying for 3.0 mbps speed from centurylink and when I did have my modem bridged to my router I was getting barely 0.09% of speed when I ran a speed test and this is when the router was bridged and when I unbridged it, my speed went back to normal), so I prefer doing it this way because then I don't have my dlink router slowing down my network both wired & wireless because every second it is dropping a packet because of a Port scan attack or some other attack I am not sure really happened(Because it was bridged).
Title: Re: How to support pxe on this router?
Post by: FurryNutz on November 18, 2013, 10:45:10 AM
Sounds like you got it working for you. This is a configuration of the ISP modem issue. Yes the ISP modem and DIR-605 router will work in this configuration. I recommend that you put the IP address the 605 gets from the ISP modem into the DMZ to help avoid internet connection issues.

Good Luck.