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Title: Which should I buy DGL-5500 or DIR-868L
Post by: magaman on December 07, 2013, 07:16:36 PM
I'm in the market for a new router and debating between the DGL-5500 and DIR-868L. I'm a gamer and need the speed, but having two Xbox One's I need a router that will support open NAT on both of them at the same time. It looks like the big differences is one has Stream Boost and the other has SmartBeam.
Title: Re: Which should I buy DGL-5500 or DIR-868L
Post by: B.Banner on December 08, 2013, 09:30:31 AM
I'm really liking the DGL-5500.  I have both my Xbox One's at the top of the priority and they have solid connections even while other network activity is going on.  There are a few problems that I've had but it might be resolved now after I re-flashed the firmware and there's new firmware coming soon.  Keep in mind that I had to put both my consoles in "Energy-Saving" mode to keep their NAT at OPEN.  Other than that very solid on both wired and wireless 5ghz.  I haven't used the 2.4ghz wireless much only on my phone.
Title: Re: Which should I buy DGL-5500 or DIR-868L
Post by: FurryNutz on December 08, 2013, 11:40:19 AM
I set up my friends game consoles on 2 DIR-868Ls, one running main host router and the other in bridge mode that the consoles are connected too. Enjoying the AC connection for gaming.

Title: Re: Which should I buy DGL-5500 or DIR-868L
Post by: magaman on December 08, 2013, 01:00:59 PM
I set up my friends game consoles on 2 DIR-868Ls, one running main host router and the other in bridge mode that the consoles are connected too. Enjoying the AC connection for gaming.


And both X1 get open NAT on "Instant On"? It seems like the 868 is a better overall router. I've used Linksys version of Streamboost and it had a minimal effect other then cutting the bandwidth to other devices even when the priority devices were off. SmartBeam might be more beneficial.
Title: Re: Which should I buy DGL-5500 or DIR-868L
Post by: FurryNutz on December 08, 2013, 01:07:49 PM
We had to disable Instant On to get OPEN NAT.
Title: Re: Which should I buy DGL-5500 or DIR-868L
Post by: magaman on December 08, 2013, 01:09:29 PM
I'm really liking the DGL-5500.  I have both my Xbox One's at the top of the priority and they have solid connections even while other network activity is going on.  There are a few problems that I've had but it might be resolved now after I re-flashed the firmware and there's new firmware coming soon.  Keep in mind that I had to put both my consoles in "Energy-Saving" mode to keep their NAT at OPEN.  Other than that very solid on both wired and wireless 5ghz.  I haven't used the 2.4ghz wireless much only on my phone.

Have you run speed tests on other non priority machines with priority devices on and off? As I mentioned in my other reply Linksys version of Streamboost wasn't good at giving full bandwidth back to other machines when the priority devices were offline.
Title: Re: Which should I buy DGL-5500 or DIR-868L
Post by: magaman on December 08, 2013, 01:14:00 PM
We had to disable Instant On to get OPEN NAT.

GRRRRR
Title: Re: Which should I buy DGL-5500 or DIR-868L
Post by: B.Banner on December 08, 2013, 03:22:18 PM
I honestly don't think any router can do multiple Xbox One's with Instant-On.  Seems like a deisgn flaw on Microsoft's part and needs a system update.  I haven't seen a situation where my non priority devices on the DGL-5500 didn't get bandwidth when other devices were offline.  My PC is 3rd on priority after the xbox's and it gets pretty much full bandwidth on speedtests.
Title: Re: Which should I buy DGL-5500 or DIR-868L
Post by: djid10t on December 09, 2013, 06:05:43 AM
I am running 2 xbones with instant on and open NAT.
Title: Re: Which should I buy DGL-5500 or DIR-868L
Post by: BiggShooter on December 09, 2013, 08:41:41 AM
I am running 2 xbones with instant on and open NAT.

I am running a Xbox One - Day One Edition with 'INSTANT ON' and get OPEN NAT.  Once Santa arrives, I will have a second Xbox One - Day One Edition.  I'm confident the second Xbox One - Day One Edition will have OPEN NAT with 'INSTANT ON'.
Title: Re: Which should I buy DGL-5500 or DIR-868L
Post by: FurryNutz on December 09, 2013, 08:56:26 AM
Thanks for sharing BS, I'm wondering if this also could be an isolated issue as well. Keep us posted on 2nd XB1 install.
Title: Re: Which should I buy DGL-5500 or DIR-868L
Post by: magaman on December 09, 2013, 03:06:32 PM
I honestly don't think any router can do multiple Xbox One's with Instant-On.  Seems like a deisgn flaw on Microsoft's part and needs a system update.  I haven't seen a situation where my non priority devices on the DGL-5500 didn't get bandwidth when other devices were offline.  My PC is 3rd on priority after the xbox's and it gets pretty much full bandwidth on speedtests.

I had tested the Linksys EA6500 which has a similar priority function, this was my rough testing speeds in various situations;
              Ping   Network Traffic   Internet Speed Test
Priority Off   19-25ms   Low   101/34mbs
Priority Off   100-158ms   High   101/34mbs
Priority On   19-28ms   Low   38/8mbs
Priority On   30-50ms   High   38/8mbs

So as you can see it helps keep low ping rates in games but the bandwidth of other computers is always cut low.
Title: Re: Which should I buy DGL-5500 or DIR-868L
Post by: FurryNutz on December 09, 2013, 03:10:34 PM
Wow, sure cuts the ISP speed down  on the DL.  :o

I'm not seeing that on the 5500, however there is some fudge factor when using SB. I'm getting correct ISP test results on the 5500 when SB reports the speeds, however I see a minor dip in speed when I do a speed test with my ISP or SPN. Been told this is normal and does not impact router and data performances. Nothing like your seeing with this Linksys though.  ::)
Title: Re: Which should I buy DGL-5500 or DIR-868L
Post by: magaman on December 09, 2013, 07:15:47 PM
Wow, sure cuts the ISP speed down  on the DL.  :o

I'm not seeing that on the 5500, however there is some fudge factor when using SB. I'm getting correct ISP test results on the 5500 when SB reports the speeds, however I see a minor dip in speed when I do a speed test with my ISP or SPN. Been told this is normal and does not impact router and data performances. Nothing like your seeing with this Linksys though.  ::)

Yeah I wasn't very happy about that. The difference in ping was minimal in my book and not worth the hit in bandwidth on non priority devices.
Title: Re: Which should I buy DGL-5500 or DIR-868L
Post by: FurryNutz on December 10, 2013, 08:01:20 AM
So what are you doing to get? 5500 or 868L?  ???
Title: Re: Which should I buy DGL-5500 or DIR-868L
Post by: magaman on December 10, 2013, 02:46:12 PM
So what are you doing to get? 5500 or 868L?  ???

I'm leaning towards the 5500. Not in a major rush.
Title: Re: Which should I buy DGL-5500 or DIR-868L
Post by: FurryNutz on December 10, 2013, 03:25:39 PM
Kewl, keep us posted. New FW is coming soon and change is in the wind I believe.