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The Graveyard - Products No Longer Supported => Routers / COVR => DIR-655 => Topic started by: Raphie on November 03, 2007, 11:57:48 AM
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So i've got the dir-655 rev. A2 with FW 1.11eu
I've got 3 wireless notebooks connected:
2 with a 3945AG card (54G)
and 1 with the 4956AGN card (up to 300mbit)
However i am not able to get any faster connection speed than 130Mbit, even if i am standing next to the router with no obstacles inbetween. The router is on the 20/40Ghz setting and i am checking speeds via TASK Manager > NETWORK tab.
Am I overlooking something? i understood this combo was capable of settings up to 300Mbit?
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I can get a 270 with a 552 card that is upstairs from 655 Router. Running N only and WPA2 for security. Have 1.10 firmware on router and 1.30 drivers on card.
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I had the same issue a couple of weeks ago too, and the DLink tech support was unable to resolve it after spending nearly 1 hour over the phone with me. I ended up reset my router to the default and redo all the config from scratch. I got 300 mbps afterward, for all three of my laptops.
Suggestion: reset your router back to default, be sure to set it to "N Only". Give it a shot.
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Thanks, i am running WPA2 only (AES, no TPIK) howeveri am running 20/40Mhz and G/N mixed mode (since i have 2 54G laptops and a PS3) i will test with N only to see what happens then.
What is the max speed that you guys can get in a mixed mode (G/N) enviroment?
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I'm running WPA2 on my system as well.. for G/N mixed, I got 54 only!!! So, I stay away from it. :-)
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So, what is the best i can expect in Mixed G/N mode? 130Mbit?
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I guess the best way to find out, is to give it a try. Agreed?
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I've already done that, 130Mbit is het best i can get in mixed mode G/N just wondering if anyboby got any better luck and can share his settings??
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What are you using to test the Bandwidth?
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However i am not able to get any faster connection speed than 130Mbit, even if i am standing next to the router with no obstacles inbetween. The router is on the 20/40Ghz setting and i am checking speeds via TASK Manager > NETWORK tab.
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Another way you can validate your connection speed is through the routers web page. On the Status page click the Wireless link on the left hand side and this will tell you what you are connected at.
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Log in to the router, check the channel width under the wireless settings. Ensure that the router is set to 20/40Auto mode. That should help.
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I echo of what Lycan has suggested, the 20/40 setting is very important.
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got it on 20/40 auto but 130mbits is the highest i can get in mixed mode. N only is not an option since i've got 2 laptops with 3945BG cards (54G)
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Thanks Lycan. It works now 300 :)
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got it on 20/40 auto but 130Mbits is the highest i can get in mixed mode. N only is not an option since I've got 2 laptops with 3945BG cards (54G)
Intel only supports the 20 Channel width. 130 is the maximum speed you will see with an Intel adapter.
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ThnX Lycan, puts my mind at ease (my wallet towards more Dlink)
Why doesn't Dlink release a 300Mbit N MiniPCIe card for in notebooks?
i don't want to walk around with a USB stick ;D
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Look at the DWA-643, that should do what you need.
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Thanks, i am running WPA2 only (AES, no TPIK) howeveri am running 20/40Mhz and G/N mixed mode (since i have 2 54G laptops and a PS3) i will test with N only to see what happens then.
What is the max speed that you guys can get in a mixed mode (G/N) enviroment?
Pardon me for jumping in so late on this, but for what its worth, I have a mixed G and N environment with a bunch of devices (TiVo's, Mac's, NAS boxes, etc.) connected to my wireless network via SMC Wireless-N Access Point/Client boxes (SMCWEB-N) in client mode. I have seen 270 megabits to the one closest to the DIR-655. As the others are considerably further away (with signal strengths in the high 60's to low 80's, as opposed to the 100% for the closest ones) they don't fare as well (currently ranging from 54 megabits to 108). The SMC boxes firmware appears to be from the same vendor as the DIR-655's (the screens are VERY similar). Ubicom, I'd guess. Anyway, just my two cents.
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got it on 20/40 auto but 130mbits is the highest i can get in mixed mode. N only is not an option since i've got 2 laptops with 3945BG cards (54G)
Hi Raphie,
Try going with 802.11n only mode and see what speed you obtain, then go back to mixed mode.
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This concern for getting a 300mbps connection is interesting. I have a reported 270mbps connection to a DAP-1555 AP. When I try to stream HD video, which is the purpose of the DAP-1555, this connection bandwidth proves to be only about 25mbps. I say this this because HD does not stream steadily and when I check the network data rate, it's running about 25mbps. I'm guessing I need about 30mbps for 1080i to stream steadily. 720P seems to flow steadily at about 20-22 mbps - just under the top limit. And my signal level is usually 100%.
So, what's the point of a reported 300mbps? The real performance is hardly 10% of the reported rate.
Bye. 8)
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Connection speed and actual throughout are different.
Everyone knows this. The point of the connection speed is that is the speed the connection is established at. The reason for the actual through-put being so much slower is environmental interference. You might actually see close to 300Mbps if you were in the vacuum of space.
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Well, I live in the real world here on earth. The real world in a real city here in the USA is filled with wireless telephones that operate at 2.4 and 5.8 GHz. I have at least a dozen wireless nodes I can see when I do a wireless scan. That's the real world. I find this wireless N marketing to be a bad joke on us cyber consumers. I am not singling out D-Link here. They are all guilty of grossly exaggerated claims for wireless N. I'm surprised some greedy lawyer hasn't taken them all to the cleaners. Can you tell I'm dissapointed in the performance of my wireless N hardware.
Bye. 8)
Connection speed and actual throughout are different.
Everyone knows this. The point of the connection speed is that is the speed the connection is established at. The reason for the actual through-put being so much slower is environmental interference. You might actually see close to 300Mbps if you were in the vacuum of space.
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Understandably, however it is what it is. If the router is not performing to your expectations, return it. Thats the wonderful thing about buyers remorse. I still fail to see how your performance could be that bad. I have the same router and it moves. I have no problem streaming multiple HD streams to hardwired PCs as well NON-HD streams to DSM-510s.
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Actually, I have sent back two sets of N wireless gear in the last month or so. In my experience so far, the D-Link hardware is the least worst. ::)
So that I can understand you clearly, are you saying you can or cannot stream HD wirelessly? When I read your words, it seems you can wirelessly stream SD, but not HD. Wired has never been a problem for me. If I temporarily run a CAT6 line down the stairs, I can stream 1080i cleanly. It's wireless that gives me trouble.
So, can you stream HD (720P or 1080i) with ease via a wireless link?
Bye. 8)
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No i don't try to stream HD wireless-ly. I know better. Wireless is to finicky. I use it for what it's capable of doing, not what a marketing department attempts to tell me what it can do. I test my hardware to the breaking point.
So no I do not stream HD over wireless. In fact I don't even game wireless.
The fact of the matter is that wireless is still in it's developmental stages. It'll be there in the next few years, but as it stands now, I wouldn't expect HD wireless streams to operate in too many home environments. My guess is D-Link is able to get this to work in their labs. Give it time.
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I get in trouble for this regularly but I am gonna go there again. There is no situation where it is OK to need wireless in a home environment!
Think about that, read it a couple times and let it sink in.
Wireless is a convenience and not even a very convenient convenience if you ask me. Between the number of threads complaining about slow wireless performance in their environment, to the number of people who won't test their wireless properly because the rightfully view it as a security risk. The risk is inherent to wireless and the ONLY encryption that is currently considered secure is WPA(2)/EAP! Even then it should not be relied on as secure.
Media is huge, there is no good way to encode audio or video that allows faithful reproduction and manageable file size. This file size becomes stream bandwidth and running that through the air is just a bad idea. If you want to stream HD wirelesly then please build a little FM station from a kit at your local electronics store and broadcast a private usage HDTV channel, just don't put to much power behind it or you will get a call from the FCC.
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OMG! I'm gunna do it.
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Lets try to refrain from instructing our members in how to break FCC regulations.
Also please try to post useful and informative information.
Thank you.
-Lycan.
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Actually it is only illegal if they can prove you intended to broadcast it beyond your house (and we mean substantially beyond) or were trying to maliciously interfere with public broadcasts. There is a specific power roof set to help enforce this, but it is beyond generous in my opinion. Low power FM in the home is leeeegal!
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I do understand what are trying to say about using wireless at all within the home. I have a number of reasons for using it. I am not longer able to perform the DIY projects I used to do before my body kind of gave out on me. I have been trying , off and on over two years, to get someone to install CAT6 in the condo where I live. In part because it's harder to do, I've not been successful. It's also very convenient to use wireless for the four laptops in our house. Have you ever watched a 10-year-old girl move from the couch to the chair to the table to the desk and back to the couch while she's IMing and Webkinzing her fingers away on a small laptop?
The other point is that this N wireless gear is being marketed for this, though I don't think it works very well at all for this purpose.
Bye. 8)
I get in trouble for this regularly but I am gonna go there again. There is no situation where it is OK to need wireless in a home environment!
Think about that, read it a couple times and let it sink in.
Wireless is a convenience and not even a very convenient convenience if you ask me. Between the number of threads complaining about slow wireless performance in their environment, to the number of people who won't test their wireless properly because the rightfully view it as a security risk. The risk is inherent to wireless and the ONLY encryption that is currently considered secure is WPA(2)/EAP! Even then it should not be relied on as secure.
Media is huge, there is no good way to encode audio or video that allows faithful reproduction and manageable file size. This file size becomes stream bandwidth and running that through the air is just a bad idea. If you want to stream HD wirelesly then please build a little FM station from a kit at your local electronics store and broadcast a private usage HDTV channel, just don't put to much power behind it or you will get a call from the FCC.
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I am more sympathetic to your concerns than I came off as at first. I have just seen time and time again friends and family asking me to install a wireless system because they think their abode is uniquely unwireable. And without fail these situations end with people having an unreliable (if ever present) or not as capable network as they would like. This usually leads to either people who resent the entire existence of networks (I know it sounds farfetched, but my various people I have "helped" would back me up), or they end up biting the bullet and wiring the abode. I find that in these situations the very unwireable situation is usually resolved easier (and cheaper) than the maintenance of a wireless connection.
Then we have the secondary bias, I may have been raised weird, but I have a keen understanding of the use of the words want and need. Call me unsympathetic if you must but your 10 yr old with a laptop does not need to be buzzing around the room like a honeybee. I used the word need in my statement because I understand it is a wonderful convenience for spontaneous and unimportant usage. I do use wireless at home, however I don’t need or rely upon it and I do have a piece of CAT5 laying next to my bed for use with my laptop.
As for marketing, that’s a bit outside my reach and I am certain the previous poster had it right that it works for D-Link in the lab, but hard to wire houses make for hard to wireless houses.
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You may have been raised weird, while I spent two years specifically studying human behavior and how the use of language effects those behaviors. I too understand the difference between need and want. In reality, we need very little to sustain our lives. We need basic shelter from the elements, sustenance to sustain our bodies and the occasional opportunity to procreate. That's it. The rest is luxury, which some cultures avoid or even forbid. Fast forward to the USA and the 21st Century. We are way past need - we want a lot. I choose to enjoy as much of it as I wish and try to practice a level of moderation that is comfortable to me. That means that our 10-year-old granddaughter gets to be a honeybee with her laptop and I buy wireless N gear to solve a problem I want to solve. My grandparents were born in tiny farm villages in rural Imperial Russia. One had a cow that essentially lived in the house. Another was the blacksmith's son. I've seen a picture of one grandmother at 14 standing in front of her house with mud half way up her heavy boots. She was smiling. Like I said, fast forward to USA and the 21st Century.
Bye. 8)
I am more sympathetic to your concerns than I came off as at first. I have just seen time and time again friends and family asking me to install a wireless system because they think their abode is uniquely unwireable. And without fail these situations end with people having an unreliable (if ever present) or not as capable network as they would like. This usually leads to either people who resent the entire existence of networks (I know it sounds farfetched, but my various people I have "helped" would back me up), or they end up biting the bullet and wiring the abode. I find that in these situations the very unwireable situation is usually resolved easier (and cheaper) than the maintenance of a wireless connection.
Then we have the secondary bias, I may have been raised weird, but I have a keen understanding of the use of the words want and need. Call me unsympathetic if you must but your 10 yr old with a laptop does not need to be buzzing around the room like a honeybee. I used the word need in my statement because I understand it is a wonderful convenience for spontaneous and unimportant usage. I do use wireless at home, however I don’t need or rely upon it and I do have a piece of CAT5 laying next to my bed for use with my laptop.
As for marketing, that’s a bit outside my reach and I am certain the previous poster had it right that it works for D-Link in the lab, but hard to wire houses make for hard to wireless houses.
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Hi
I tried changing my security settings to WPA2 Only with AES but none of my laptops could connect. They have Intel 4965 n cards in them. When i changed it back to Auto WPA/WPA2 then they started to connect at 130 but the mbps start to flucuate from 130 to 78 to 52 however i get a excellent/very good signal.
How do i stop my mbps from flucuating and how did you get the Intel 4965 to go at 300mbps?
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Hi
is the Channel Width set to Auto 20/40 Mhz instead of just 20?
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Although Creator is on the right path, I fear I have disappointing news for you.
The Intel cards are not capable of the 20/40 Channel width that is required for the 300Mbps connection speed. In fact Intel is the whole reason that the 20-20/40Auto mode selection is in the router. Their cards, in my opinion, are inferior to the D-Link Atheros cards.
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Here are my settings:
Enable wireless = checked
802.11 mode: mixed n and g (cause 1 laptop has 3945 g and the other 2 are intel 4965n)
Enable Auto channel scan = checked
Transmission Rate = Best(automatic)
Channel Width = Auto 20/40
Security = WPA Personal
WPA Mode = Auto WPA/WPA2
Cihper Type = AES
Group Key interval update = 3600
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ok well then how do i stop my mbps from flucuating all the time and letting it stay at 130mbps constently.
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I'd take a look at your environment. Try disabling the Auto channel scan feature, lock the channel width to 20 only and lock the encryption to WPA2only/Aes.
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well i live in a 3 story house. I've tried changning to WPA2 but then none of the other laptops(4965) could connect.
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well i live in a 3 story house. I've tried changning to WPA2 but then none of the other laptops(4965) could not connect.
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Hmm, thats a issue. How about just as a test. See if that stabilizes the connection?