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The Graveyard - Products No Longer Supported => Routers / COVR => DIR-655 => Topic started by: notebc on March 10, 2015, 11:21:54 AM
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Hi - I'm a new proud owner of a d-link 655 and trying to manage access control for close to 20 devices ranging from young children to adults. Seem to be having a problem setting up certain devices to never be blocked, while using the OTHER MACHINES option to block any machine without a policy at certain times. It seems that the times set to BLOCK ALL ACCESS for OTHER MACHINES just blocks every machine. I'm using MAC addresses. After doing a bit of research, TOMATO seemed to look more user friendly, but not sure if it's compatible with the 655 or not? Also, any way you know of eliminating the feature to reset the router EVERY time I make a small change to a policy? It'd be nice if I could make a bunch of changes, then reset the router, rather than waiting either 20 or 70 seconds every time I make a change . . . . I'm sure this is a common issue - can you direct me to more info on this? Thanks.
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Link>Welcome! (http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=48135.0)
- What Hardware version is your router? Look at sticker under the router case.
- Link>What Firmware (http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=47512.0) version is currently loaded? Found on the routers web page under status.
- What region are you located?
There is a limited amount of resources on D-Link routers so I'm not sure if you can manage up to 20 devices.
Router Access Control, Blocking, Web Filters and Scheduling FAQ (http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=56479.0)
To set up scheduling:
1. Reserve device IP addresses ON the router under Setup/Networking.
2. Set up a schedule under Tools/Schedule on the routers web page. Customize your dates and times here.
3. Use Advanced/Access Control configured and apply the customized schedule to a policy and to the PC(s) or device(s) desired to be controlled.
4. Ensure Time is set correctly on the router. Tools/Time.
I do believe Setup/Networking/DNS Relay and or Setup/Internet/Manual/Advanced DNS Services need to be enabled along with configuring Reserved IP addresses, Scheduling, and Access Controls.
Additional Info:
How to Block a specific port using Access Control: http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=58731.0 (http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=58731.0)
How to set up Web Filters: http://www.dlink.cc/d-link-wireless/how-to-setup-website-filter-on-d-link-dir-series-router-dir-655.htm (http://www.dlink.cc/d-link-wireless/how-to-setup-website-filter-on-d-link-dir-series-router-dir-655.htm)
How to Block FB: http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=50490.0 (http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=50490.0)
Web Filter How To: http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=5509.0 (http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=5509.0)
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After making a change you get option to restart later, so you can pile changes into one reboot.
Also, no on the third party firmware, I also looked into that but the 655 chipset isn't one that can be flashed by other than dlink.
Sounds like you want to blocck kids online access times.
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fzappa is correct there hasn't been any 3rd party FW for those model router. I believe the chip set isn't Broadcom.
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Hi - thanks for looking to help me with this issue:
So, I have the Hardware Version B1 and firmware version 2.04NA. I am located in the state of Oregon (USA).
I have attached a screen shot of my setup showing the option to turn off all Other Machines, with one machine (BentoPC) specified to NEVER Block All Access. However, when I enable the policy to Block All Access on Other Machines, then ALL my machines turn off as well. I've tested this fairly extensively; just wondering if this is supposed to work like I'm thinking it should.
Also, on my computer, I do NOT get the option to restart later - must be in a different firmware version?
Actually, it appears I don't know how to post a picture - can anyone help me with that as well? thanks . ..
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Adding Screenshots In A Post (http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=58120.0)
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Okay - here's a portion of my screen of policies. Note the last two policies display my descriptions in the previous post. With these policies, enabling the "All Other Off" policy blocks access to even the BentoPC. Also, there are no other policies specified for BentoPC. I included the network screen that verifies the MAC address of BentoPC. Any ideas/suggestions?
(http://i.imgur.com/HnDZD6E.png)
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I recommend you start with 1 or 2 devices only and set up 1 access control policy and test to make sure that the 1 or two devices work as you need them too. Then set up the rest. Just be aware that you might not be able to configure all 20 devices as these routers only support a limited number of configurations.
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That's a good idea - I will try it and let you know . . . .
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;)
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Okay - tried your suggestion . . . same result. With the two policies shown, the BentoPC was blocked.
(http://i.imgur.com/2atoWrk.png)
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It says your filters is to block always...I presume it would be blocked in this configuration.
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see. that might be where the problem is - I'm trying to use some kind of negative, reverse logic. For BentoPC, I'm trying to say NEVER * Block All Access in hope that when I Block All Access on all Other Machines, it will recognize that BentoPC is NEVER supposed to be blocked?
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Is the PC only needing to be blocked sometimes? If so, then try using the other option, I can't remember of the top of my head however I think there is a partial block or block some option.
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The idea is that BentoPC is mom's PC - I never get block'ed - I am the block'er. At some point, when I've had it, everyone else is, well, BLOCK'ed. But not me . . .
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Id remove that PC from the list or being configured for any sort of blocking.
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I don't understand . . . what 'list' are you talking about? If I remove the BentoPC policy, then it would be blocked along with all the Other Machines.
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If you remove the PC from all configurations in Access Control, the PC should not be blocked...
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then what does the Other Machines specification mean? I assumed it meant any PC/machine without a policy? If I removed the BentoPC policy (like I understand your suggestion to mean) then I would only guess it would block access on BentoPC when the Block All Access * Other Machines policy is enabled.
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Hi - haven't visited this for a while - did you give up on me or the DIR-655 router? I'd just be interested if anyone has tried to use this router to do what I'm trying; is it even supposed to work like I'm trying to make it do? OTW, does anyone have a suggestion for managing, say, 10 devices, having several that stay connected to the internet ALL THE TIME, and some that lose their connection during the night hours. This seems like a fairly common and simple concept (at least for anyone with kids) - should be something out there. Thanks . . ..
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I'm currently testing out a DIR-865L w some access controls. The UI is similar. Only thing I've set up is 2 schedules and 2 policies for one device each and there pointed to one of the schedules each. I did remember that I had to enable DNS Relay or the controls won't work. Once I did that, the controls are working. You can follow it here:
http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=62169.0 (http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=62169.0)
I presume setting up your router would be the same. I don't know how many controls or devices you can mange though. It maybe limited...
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Hi - haven't visited this for a while - did you give up on me or the DIR-655 router? I'd just be interested if anyone has tried to use this router to do what I'm trying; is it even supposed to work like I'm trying to make it do? OTW, does anyone have a suggestion for managing, say, 10 devices, having several that stay connected to the internet ALL THE TIME, and some that lose their connection during the night hours. This seems like a fairly common and simple concept (at least for anyone with kids) - should be something out there. Thanks . . ..
You could consider using parental controls on any Windows devices instead. Maybe you could get a few off of the router controls.
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Hi - I read the link from FurryNutz - but it doesn't seem to address a situation where I want to specify certain machines to never be restricted access, and all other machines to be restricted at certain times.
I have used Parental Controls in Windows and it works for the PC's - just not the iPhones and other tablets.
Thanks again for your suggestions - but I'm still looking for the answer . . .
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If you have PCs that don't need any control access or restriction, then those don't need to be added honestly. Just leave them out of the equation. Work with the devices that need restriction policies only...
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What you say makes sense, but here's why I'm interested in using the Other Machines option for restricting . . . sometimes the kids have their friends over; I'd just as soon have their devices go off at the 9:30 shut down time as well. So, instead of having to look up their MAC address and enter a separate policy, I'd just like to say "Mom's computer never gets shut down (Never * Block All Access), all Other Machines * Block All Access * at 9:30". Two policies - done. But, again, when I enable these policies as stated, at 9:30 everyone gets blocked.
Currently, I'm basically doing what you say - I have 6 policies, one for each of the kids' devices to shut down at 9:30,which seems to work - just wishing it was more general.
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For PCs that don't need any blocking. Just don't add them. Only add devices that need blocking.
You'll need to collect the MACs for the guest devices that come over so you can correctly add them for blocking as well.
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I notice you keep avoiding the concept of "Other Machines" . . . I don't really like to have to remember to check to see if I've already added a policy for the kids' friends' devices - I'm thinking years down the road - new friends, new devices, have they been added or not . . . it's all very tiring. :-\ And obviously a first-world problem.