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Title: Camera DDNS for use in router
Post by: bimo on September 10, 2015, 05:27:10 PM
I have a non D-link router and 4 DCS 932L cameras. The router only has DynDns to use which I don't have an account.
My question is can I set D-Link DDNS in one camera, or all, and it will keep the router IP updated?
All cameras are up and running, but if my router IP changes I'm out of luck.
Thanks for any advice...
Title: Re: Camera DDNS for use in router
Post by: FurryNutz on September 11, 2015, 07:13:06 AM
Check the user manual for DDNS. Some offer this feature ans some don't.

Any DDNS change depending on where they are set, will effect that device. Setting DDNS on a camera, if supported, will not update the router. It's up to the router to update when needed.
Title: Re: Camera DDNS for use in router
Post by: bimo on September 11, 2015, 11:03:38 AM
Thanks for the reply.
If D-Link free DDNS is set in my DCS-932L using an internal IP like 192.168.0.2, how does the DDNS update the camera without using the external IP of the router?
There's probably thousands+ cameras with the same internal IP on the Internet.
Maybe this DDNS setting on the cameras are just for local viewing and not over Internet.
Title: Re: Camera DDNS for use in router
Post by: FurryNutz on September 11, 2015, 11:11:04 AM
It gets the DDNS thru the router and not from the router. The router does the NAT. Look in the user manual to see if this is available and if there is any configurations.
Title: Re: Camera DDNS for use in router
Post by: bimo on September 11, 2015, 11:54:29 AM
I understand what you are saying. However, my router has only DYN as an option for a DDNS server. My 4 D-Link DCS-932L cameras all have an option for the free D-Link DDNS. If the cameras are set to their respective IPs and use the D-Link DDNS on each and the router's external IP changes, how do the cameras get updated for viewing outside the LAN? I'm beginning to think the DDNS settings on the cameras are pretty much useless which makes my router the same.
Title: Re: Camera DDNS for use in router
Post by: FurryNutz on September 11, 2015, 12:47:04 PM
Are you using mydlink.com apps and services or a direct connection?
Title: Re: Camera DDNS for use in router
Post by: bimo on September 11, 2015, 12:57:50 PM
I don't think I can use MyDlink app on iPhone since I'm not useing a D-Link router. I use another camera viewer app which works great as long as the router's IP doesn't change.
Title: Re: Camera DDNS for use in router
Post by: FurryNutz on September 11, 2015, 01:09:53 PM
DLink cameras are not D-Link router dependent. I've used my DCS-933L with other branded routers on my iPhone 6P and the mydlink app.
Title: Re: Camera DDNS for use in router
Post by: bimo on September 11, 2015, 01:18:52 PM
Okay, understand. Did you use an DDNS service on your non D-Link routers or cameras?
Just trying to set-up my other cam viewer which requires a DDNS service.
Thanks for your help.
Title: Re: Camera DDNS for use in router
Post by: FurryNutz on September 11, 2015, 01:22:40 PM
I don't use DDNS services so no. Nothing but DNS from the ISP or occasionally OpenDNS addresses set on the router is all for test reproduction.
Title: Re: Camera DDNS for use in router
Post by: robert-e on September 11, 2015, 01:25:37 PM
I recently had to use a dynamic dns service, since mydlink.com does not support the linux OS.  Here is what I did:

-sign up with a ddns service, taking particular note of any addessing/password requirements; particularly the address that you will use in your router.

-log into your camera as admin.  Under the network tab, set a static ip address that is outside of those that can be assigned by your router.  For ex. suppose your router has ip address of 192.168.150.1, and can (using dhcp) assign address starting at 192.168.150.100 to 192.168.150.150.  You would set the static ip address to something below that range, say for 192.168.150.40 or some such.  I then "saved" settings in the camera.  I also setup a "username" and password, so as not required to login as admin all the time.

-log onto your router, and (how depends on your router), set up the dynamic dns, by entering the dynamic dns servers ip address info that you abtained when you signed up.  Then setup port forwarding to the static ip address of your camera (that you set as per above).  Choose port 80...I have noted that in past posts reports that ports other than 80 do not work with the dcs932l. As an aside, I also set up a ntp time server on both the router and camera.  Reboot both the camera and the router...powering off will do.

In your browser, browse to the dynamic dns service address, and when it connects to your camera, make a bookmark and perhaps save the password.  I login as the username as noted

I use my camera for monitoring the temp. on my furnace, and have not enabled java on the camera, so I do not use video streaming.  You may want to try that.

Google "stevejenkins" and "afraid" for specific information regarding the "afraid" free ddns service.

Regards,
Bob
Title: Re: Camera DDNS for use in router
Post by: bimo on September 11, 2015, 01:37:15 PM
Great info, thanks. My problem is that my router ONLY allows DYN to be used as the DDNS service. They want $40 per year and I kinda don't want to pay that much when there are lots cheaper services. Just trying to figure a way to use my D-Link cameras free DDNS service.
Title: Re: Camera DDNS for use in router
Post by: FurryNutz on September 11, 2015, 01:43:45 PM
What Mfr and model router do you have?
Title: Re: Camera DDNS for use in router
Post by: bimo on September 11, 2015, 02:09:34 PM
Netgear NDR3700
Title: Re: Camera DDNS for use in router
Post by: FurryNutz on September 11, 2015, 02:38:52 PM
WNDR3700?
Is it running OEM FW? I have this router so I can help to reproduce this with my DCS-933L. Mine has last available FW I think
Title: Re: Camera DDNS for use in router
Post by: bimo on September 11, 2015, 03:02:46 PM
Yes, the router is V1.
Title: Re: Camera DDNS for use in router
Post by: FurryNutz on September 11, 2015, 03:06:34 PM
I'll load up mine and put it online and see how my camera connects. I think it will connect fine as all I have to do is to reboot the camera and use the same SSID and PW and wireless configuration. I'll let you know.
Title: Re: Camera DDNS for use in router
Post by: robert-e on September 11, 2015, 03:20:45 PM
I tried to post this but it did not make it:  so again, another option is to flash dd-wrt onto your router.  Look at this link:  http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Netgear_WNDR3700
That said, be sure that you are comfortable with the flash process.  Read the instructions CAREFULLY, and print them out first, if need be. 

I recently purchaced a linksys ea4600 router to replace an old dlink 524, and it too limits me to one ddns service, therefore I intend to put ddwrt on it, since ddwrt allows multiple ddns servies, and you can also do a custom one.  I don't know why companies do that sort of thing.  Perhaps there is some economic advantage? 

BTW, I have a couple of other older routers with ddwrt, and have been working well for over 8 years.

Regards,
Bob
Title: Re: Camera DDNS for use in router
Post by: FurryNutz on September 11, 2015, 03:24:46 PM
I'll check my 3700 thats got OEM FW loaded and see if my camera still connect. Maybe this will help avoid loading WRT FW as last resort. Always an option though.
Title: Re: Camera DDNS for use in router
Post by: bimo on September 11, 2015, 04:26:40 PM
Some says WRT cuts power down, some say it doesn't. Probably won't try it. My 3700 has the best range of any router I've used. Thanks for the help and have A great weekend.
Title: Re: Camera DDNS for use in router
Post by: FurryNutz on September 11, 2015, 04:52:07 PM
Ok got the router set up:
(http://www.speedtest.net/result/4656467842.png) (http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/4656467842)

Camera connected to my AC wireless AP thats wire connected to the Netgear router. I can view the LAN side video using the iPhone and the app. Netgear wireless radios are turned off. Ill have to test the WAN site when I'm away from home. Tomorrow.
Title: Re: Camera DDNS for use in router
Post by: FurryNutz on September 12, 2015, 02:40:51 PM
DCS-933L can be seen from remote locations while it's connected thru my wireless AC AP thats connected to the NG 3700 router.
Title: Re: Camera DDNS for use in router
Post by: bimo on September 14, 2015, 02:45:48 AM
Sounds good. I'm also able to view my 4 932Ls remotely but, since I don't have an account with DYN and when my ISP gives me a different IP address I won't be able to view them.
Title: Re: Camera DDNS for use in router
Post by: FurryNutz on September 14, 2015, 06:38:19 AM
If you connect up your cameras to the mydlink.com service, changing if your ISP address will not matter. If it changes you can still remotely view your cameras.
Title: Re: Camera DDNS for use in router
Post by: bimo on September 14, 2015, 07:59:16 AM
Thanks for the info. If you're talking about the mydlink app to use on iPhone it will work. I use another camera viewer, not mydlink, which will show all the cameras on one page or can show each individual, unlike mydlink which can only show one camera at a time.

Without being able to use No-Ip, which I have an account, on the 3700, I wouldn't be able to view the cameras if the ISP IP changed because all other viewers must use an DDNS service on the router to maintain contact.

I thought there might be a way to set the free D-Link DDNS in each camera without having to set DDNS in the router and the cameras would maintain their location even if the router changed IP address.

Title: Re: Camera DDNS for use in router
Post by: FurryNutz on September 14, 2015, 08:12:20 AM
D-Links DDNS services are not free anymore. They close that last year I believe. You might contact them on the phone and talk to them and explain your needs and see what they can offer. As far as mydlink, it works with standard FW on the 3700 and using a different Mfr wireless AP.

Let us know if you find out anything. You might ask your ISP for a static IP for the WAN, then you'd be ok.
Title: Re: Camera DDNS for use in router
Post by: robert-e on September 14, 2015, 12:16:29 PM
I seems to me that you have some choices:

-flash ddwrt (or tomato or openwrt) to you netgear router which give you a choice of ddns service

-find another router that offers you a better choice (Linksys wrt54g version 4, gl, and gs come to mind), and flash that to ddwrt...they are cheap at about $10 now.

-keep using your netgear and switch and pay for the ddns service it supports.

-find an equivalent router to the netgear, that supports choice; then sell your unusable netgear.  This will need some research.

-sell your non-dlink camera and continue to use mydlink.com

Furrynuts is corrent...dlink no longer has a free ddns service..I looked into that
last week.  For myself, I sometimes wich I had gone with the local fone companies monitoring service...lot less hassles, as it turns out.

Hope you get it all worked out.

Regards,
Bob