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Title: 1.32 BETA03
Post by: afterlife04 on July 08, 2009, 07:34:57 AM
It seems when I am torrenting I cannot access the router page after awhile and cannot browse the net on my computer or others. I have limited the global connections on the torrent program to 100 but that doesn't seem to fix anything. Any ideas as to why I can't access the router page and always have to hard reset the device?

D-link 655 A1 - Hardware - V 1.32 Beta 03
Title: Re: 1.32 BETA03
Post by: Demonized on July 08, 2009, 09:01:06 AM
Have you also limited the bandwidth? There's twon things to limit: number of connections AND the upload/download bandwidth. If your upload bandwidth (which is a lot smaller then your download bandwidth is fully used the download bandwidth will also fall apart (TCP IP is two way communication)
Title: Re: 1.32 BETA03
Post by: afterlife04 on July 08, 2009, 09:19:18 AM
yes i have limited the bandwidth sorry I forgot to mention that its 37kb/s

my upload speed is about 1.3mbps
Title: Re: 1.32 BETA03
Post by: Demonized on July 08, 2009, 02:40:01 PM
Is the modem perhaps causing this?
Title: Re: 1.32 BETA03
Post by: Xinot on July 08, 2009, 04:23:38 PM
It seems when I am torrenting I cannot access the router page after awhile and cannot browse the net on my computer or others. I have limited the global connections on the torrent program to 100 but that doesn't seem to fix anything. Any ideas as to why I can't access the router page and always have to hard reset the device?

D-link 655 A1 - Hardware - V 1.32 Beta 03

Acting like this only with this beta fw?
Title: Re: 1.32 BETA03
Post by: afterlife04 on July 09, 2009, 06:10:28 AM
It started acting like this before also, I tried different firmwares hoping the issues would go away but it still remains. I never had these problems with my linksys, my connection was always stable and the router did not restart itself.


How many connections can the router hold before it starts to slow down? For a premium router you would expect a lot.
Title: Re: 1.32 BETA03
Post by: Demonized on July 09, 2009, 06:25:21 AM
A router in this class will handle about 400+ full open connections, perhaps even a 1000. That might not seem a lot, but Windows for example is limited (tcpip.sys) to 10 (without a patch).

But locking up a router can be easily done by a combination large amount of requests and high bandwidth demand. Then the hardware limitations (CPU) kick in. And they did not put in a very low performing CPU/chipset. It's the normal 'power' you will find in all routers in this class.
Title: Re: 1.32 BETA03
Post by: afterlife04 on July 09, 2009, 06:40:48 AM
Even like opening internet explorer a lot and browsing different sites seems to cause the router to stop responding sometimes. On a side note everytime I upgrade the firmware I always have to re-do my settings manually because the load config "NEVER" has worked. I tried clearing the NVRAM but that doesn't work either.
Title: Re: 1.32 BETA03
Post by: Xinot on July 09, 2009, 07:49:35 AM
A router in this class will handle about 400+ full open connections, perhaps even a 1000. That might not seem a lot, but Windows for example is limited (tcpip.sys) to 10 (without a patch).

But locking up a router can be easily done by a combination large amount of requests and high bandwidth demand. Then the hardware limitations (CPU) kick in. And they did not put in a very low performing CPU/chipset. It's the normal 'power' you will find in all routers in this class.

I think something like 150 is closer to truth here...
Title: Re: 1.32 BETA03
Post by: Demonized on July 09, 2009, 11:45:45 AM
The official number is about 150, but there have been some non-official tests that came up with the higher number:
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/848374
http://www.broadbandreports.com/forum/r18636963-Tomshardware-updates-DIR655-Benchmark-Results

Official test: http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/component/option,com_chart/Itemid,189/chart,124
(test program was limited on 200 connections because of the license)
Title: Re: 1.32 BETA03
Post by: Xinot on July 09, 2009, 01:59:21 PM
The official number is about 150, but there have been some non-official tests that came up with the higher number:
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/848374
http://www.broadbandreports.com/forum/r18636963-Tomshardware-updates-DIR655-Benchmark-Results

Official test: http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/component/option,com_chart/Itemid,189/chart,124
(test program was limited on 200 connections because of the license)

Great reviews too because quick/short tests... ?  ;D
Title: Re: 1.32 BETA03
Post by: Demonized on July 09, 2009, 03:38:28 PM
Great reviews too because quick/short tests... ?  ;D

They probably have the same error less revision model I have...  ;)
Title: Re: 1.32 BETA03
Post by: Lycan on July 09, 2009, 03:52:26 PM
Statetable will manage 150 connections.
Trust me. ;)
4500 has a MUCH bigger statetable, hence so many people are having problems with UPnP, with tables over 250, the router has a heck of a time keeping up with open/close behavior.
Title: Re: 1.32 BETA03
Post by: Xinot on July 09, 2009, 04:30:48 PM
Statetable will manage 150 connections.
Trust me. ;)
4500 has a MUCH bigger statetable, hence so many people are having problems with UPnP, with tables over 250, the router has a heck of a time keeping up with open/close behavior.


How about keeping up only one HDD or printer...  ;D
Title: Re: 1.32 BETA03
Post by: Ice9 on July 10, 2009, 07:32:07 PM
Port forwards still die after about a day and a half, requiring a router reboot... EXTREMELY irritating, and the #1 reason why the 1.3X firmwares are pure, unadulterated FAIL.
Title: Re: 1.32 BETA03
Post by: maksis on July 12, 2009, 02:24:39 AM
Since upgrading to 1.30, I've had to reboot my router weekly, because it freezes somehow. Seems like it only affects address resolving because all file transfer speeds stay normal. Web pages must be refreshed multiple times and the configuration page won't load. Beta versions haven't changed anything.
Title: Re: 1.32 BETA03
Post by: afterlife04 on July 12, 2009, 09:50:26 AM
Which router would accept a lot of connections and remain stable?
Title: Re: 1.32 BETA03
Post by: ttmcmurry on July 12, 2009, 08:31:46 PM
One of these (http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/routers/ps341/index.html).  Don't forget to add the ~$1,250+/mo ISP service charge.   ;D
Title: Re: 1.32 BETA03
Post by: lizzi555 on July 12, 2009, 11:08:47 PM
And if I look at the picture with the 3 fans, I assume you can also use it as air conditioner.
Title: Re: 1.32 BETA03
Post by: afterlife04 on July 13, 2009, 11:48:56 AM
Haha......well I just wish my router was stable like my old one.....I never had these problems before
Title: Re: 1.32 BETA03
Post by: Demonized on July 13, 2009, 04:49:38 PM
Features will come and go, but problems will always keep popping up.  ;)
Title: Re: 1.32 BETA03
Post by: afterlife04 on July 14, 2009, 05:18:39 AM
I don't really care for new features I would prefer stability especially in a platinum product.
Title: Re: 1.32 BETA03
Post by: Demonized on July 14, 2009, 06:06:33 AM
I don't really care for new features I would prefer stability especially in a platinum product.

Understandble. Though I think stability is a subjective thing. My 655 is stable like a rock.
Title: Re: 1.32 BETA03
Post by: afterlife04 on July 14, 2009, 06:43:06 AM
What settings can you recommend?
Title: Re: 1.32 BETA03
Post by: ttmcmurry on July 14, 2009, 02:50:44 PM
The default ones... but

Disable SecureSpot
Enable WPA2
Change Wireless Network to G/N or N only if possible.
Title: Re: 1.32 BETA03
Post by: Demonized on July 14, 2009, 04:40:26 PM
And don't let wireless pick 'auto' channel.
Title: Re: 1.32 BETA03
Post by: Henk55 on July 15, 2009, 02:03:55 AM
And don't let wireless pick 'auto' channel.

Agreed to that, but in every FW!
If they want remove something out.....
If the router restart for some reason it give always a 'busy' channel and skipping ch.1 even if it's free!
Title: Re: 1.32 BETA03
Post by: point on July 15, 2009, 06:51:32 AM
And don't let wireless pick 'auto' channel.

why not? I have 1.31, on a A3, and works fine with that option.
Title: Re: 1.32 BETA03
Post by: tusc on July 15, 2009, 08:13:35 AM
Which router would accept a lot of connections and remain stable?

You do not need a high end router. Any flavor of the Linksys WRT54G series with the Tomato firmware will do. The default TCP connection limit is 4096. I have personally tested it with over 1000 connections without *ANY* stability problems.

Clearly the 655 was not designed for torrent use.
Title: Re: 1.32 BETA03
Post by: jason1722x on July 15, 2009, 09:00:03 AM
You do not need a high end router. Any flavor of the Linksys WRT54G series with the Tomato firmware will do. The default TCP connection limit is 4096. I have personally tested it with over 1000 connections without *ANY* stability problems.

Clearly the 655 was not designed for torrent use.

If thats all you do is torrents thats fine, but you would be hard pressed to find a router with the feature set by default that the Dir 655 has.
Torrents cause nothing but connection problems, I know because I use it also.