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The Graveyard - Products No Longer Supported => Routers / COVR => DIR-655 => Topic started by: jason1722x on August 12, 2009, 03:14:05 AM
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I seen this with Firmware 1.21, where you had the choice of updating to FW1.21 without Shareport.
I'm curious to see a stripped down release without "Shareport" or "SecureSpot" as they are not needed in any manner in router functions. Stability is what I'm looking for and is what I had befor the marketing ploy of Shareport and SecureSpot was slipped into the firmware with normal fixes.
Your thoughts?
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I am hoping that they release a version without all of the additional junk they added. I haven't upgraded from 1.21 because of this, and I probably won't upgrade to the final "N" firmware, or buy another D-Link router, unless they remove the superfluous, money generating, junk (SecureSpot). I'm hoping that they lose more customers than subscribe to the additional "security" features they offer.
As for Sharepoint, I say remove it.
My vote is for a solid, kick-butt firmware, that doesn't necessitate rebooting the router every week or so.
So yes, I agree with your post :)
PS I'm surprised that cr@p is a censored word in this forum. Do people actually consider that to be offensive?
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Yeah I was going to generate a poll but I think Lycan knocked down that option as I can't find it anymore.
I like Dlink but after the last fw updates I'm serious looking elseware when the new "N" batch of routers are released. Dlinks programmers have issues and maybe some more schooling would help.
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Yeah I was going to generate a poll but I think Lycan knocked down that option as I can't find it anymore.
I like Dlink but after the last fw updates I'm serious looking elseware when the new "N" batch of routers are released. Dlinks programmers have issues and maybe some more schooling would help.
As far as the developers are concerned, it just may be that D-Link corporate is asking them to do something that is not practical on this product in an attempt at generating more revenue. I don't know the root of the problem, and will not assess blame, unless I have all the facts. Although, I don't ever expect to have that information...
My statement above, does not change the fact that I agree with your original post. Remove all of the unnecessary code from the firmware Shareport and SecureSpot. SecureSpot is the most hated feature in my book.
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Yes I can relate to the fact that Corprate people ask more than is praciable.
My thoughts are Sareport and SecrueSpot are nothing but security issues waiting to happen, not to mention the implementation to this point has been anything but smooth.
But what do we know, we are just consumers.
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I seen this with Firmware 1.21, where you had the choice of updating to FW1.21 without Shareport.
I'm curious to see a stripped down release without "Shareport" or "SecureSpot" as they are not needed in any manner in router functions. Stability is what I'm looking for and is what I had befor the marketing ploy of Shareport and SecureSpot was slipped into the firmware with normal fixes.
Your thoughts?
Shareport is separate software and is not part of the firmware as far as I know.
Securespot can be disabled in options.
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One of the problems DLink faces is that when the router first came out the USB port was only for Windows Connect Now and many of the postings were "I want to use the USB port for a NAS" or "I want to connect the Printer to it". They resisted at first but gave in and Shareport showed up. Now the posts are get rid of Shareport, so what are they to do?
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Shareport is separate software and is not part of the firmware as far as I know.
Securespot can be disabled in options.
Shareport is separate software but I have to wonder what changes to the firmware has been made for the usb port to work as a NAS or Print device.
As far as SecureSpot, read for yourself in the forum the problems people have with it, not to mention what dose it have to do with routing.
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Shareport is separate software but I have to wonder what changes to the firmware has been made for the usb port to work as a NAS or Print device.
Shareport client (SX virtual link from Silex) is separate software running on the OS of your machine and "Shareport Server" (device server) is also separate software running on the OS of the router.
So no big changes in the firmware itself - just a new software interface between the server module and the Ubicom IP-OS on the DIR.
You can download and install this server from Silex for free for Windows and Power PC and build your own shareport server.
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Shareport client (SX virtual link from Silex) is separate software running on the OS of your machine and "Shareport Server" (device server) is also separate software running on the OS of the router.
So no big changes in the firmware itself - just a new software interface between the server module and the Ubicom IP-OS on the DIR.
You can download and install this server from Silex for free for Windows and Power PC and build your own shareport server.
So you know for a fact no changes have been done to the firmware to help it work with the software?
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Each new feature causes changes but I think the shareport is not the main change of the last time.
The newer version of OS since 1.3x is more likely to cause the different behavior that some (more) user here are experiencing.
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So you know for a fact no changes have been done to the firmware to help it work with the software?
The feature was already present in the older firmware. Adding functionality causes changes in code. Inevitably. But that does not mean that other code is affected by this change.
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lizzi555 & Demonized
The point is when Dlink started trying to expand the capabilities of the router by taking advantage of what the chipset had to offer they have had nothing but issues.
I have had my 655 for some time and it is aging (A1/A2) but Shareport is going outside the realm of what a router is suppose to do. SecureSpot dose also (it's a joke) and a potential security risk.
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lizzi555 & Demonized
The point is when Dlink started trying to expand the capabilities of the router by taking advantage of what the chipset had to offer they have had nothing but issues.
I have had my 655 for some time and it is aging (A1/A2) but Shareport is going outside the realm of what a router is suppose to do. SecureSpot dose also (it's a joke) and a potential security risk.
My 655 A2 runs 2 and a half years now and it does not look like it is aging ;D
But you are right Shareport is not a router feature but typical for a "All in One" home device.
I don't need it, so I agree: stop shareport - free memory for the router ;D
(My printers are networked and my data is stored on NAS systems)
It would make more sense to introduce a new system planned and develloped with all these features.
So who wants it can buy it.
Secure Spot must not affect other functions of the router if disabled. D-Link knew how this worked. One firmware without Secure Spot. I don't know why they canceled it. For most users it is unwanted so D-Link: please let the user decide whether they install it or not by choosing the right firmware.
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I say that the new firmware should have a choice, for those people who dont want shareport and secure spot, you can disable it if you want to. well they already have the disable button for secure spot. For me i need shareport only cause i dont want to leave my computer on while i print... i prefer just hooking the printer to the router instead of waiting to turn on my computer and such.
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I say that the new firmware should have a choice, for those people who dont want shareport and secure spot, you can disable it if you want to. well they already have the disable button for secure spot. For me i need shareport only cause i dont want to leave my computer on while i print... i prefer just hooking the printer to the router instead of waiting to turn on my computer and such.
You can not use usb port in router if you are not connected to router via shareport. ::)
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You can not use usb port in router if you are not connected to router via shareport. ::)
uuh.. duh.. how else can i connect? and thats the problem... sharport wont work properly... only for a certain amount of days
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bump
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I could tolerate securspot if the default was OFF instead of enabled. It would be nice to have a firmware without it though. I've almost given up on ever having SharePort work on this router. If it did I would use it for my laser printer. The thing is they likely won't remove the code from the firmware they'll just hide the settings so they don't show up in the GUI like they do for a lot of the other options/settings.
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I support to have firmware without SecureSpot as it's a feature that most consumers (at least in the country that I am from) do not use at all. Instead, it introduces instability.
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Instead, it introduces instability.
How can you be so sure it's related?
And before others start ranting: this is a legitate question, asking for evidence to support an opinion like this.
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How can you be so sure it's related?
And bedfore others start ranting: this is a legitate question, asking for evidence to support an opinion like this.
It really would be nice to see what it is in Secure Spot that causes the problem. I have disabled this option a while back. Even though my router has been rock solid since doing so, I am not completely convinced 'this' and 'this alone' is causing the problem with restarts and drops.
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My thoughts? Secure spot is absolute junk and needs to go. The "sharepoint" is a flawed concept. It would be much nicer if it worked like a regular NAS, without the need for additional software and with an unlimited number of simultaneous users, as has been done with other brands using near identical hardware to the 655. But D-link, like other companies, probably listened to the whining and moaning of MPAA, RIAA, IFPI, and other "intellectual property" guardians, and therefore implemented a crippled version of NAS.
That is my thoughts on this :)
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My thoughts? Secure spot is absolute junk and needs to go. The "sharepoint" is a flawed concept. It would be much nicer if it worked like a regular NAS, without the need for additional software and with an unlimited number of simultaneous users, as has been done with other brands using near identical hardware to the 655. But D-link, like other companies, probably listened to the whining and moaning of MPAA, RIAA, IFPI, and other "intellectual property" guardians, and therefore implemented a crippled version of NAS.
That is my thoughts on this :)
I wish my BMW acted like a Porsche. Perhaps I should have gone to the Porsche dealer when I bought it. ;)
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Yeah, I should have bought the Buffalo WZR-HP-G300NH, but it was released only 2 weeks later than my purchase. Then again, I have worked out every little problem I have with the DIR-655. Shareport you can forget about it, and SecureSpot can be disabled if you don't use it. Now, I'm happy with it. It's like getting married... ;D.
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Yeah, I should have bought the Buffalo WZR-HP-G300NH, but it was released only 2 weeks later than my purchase. Then again, I have worked out every little problem I have with the DIR-655. Shareport you can forget about it, and SecureSpot can be disabled if you don't use it. Now, I'm happy with it. It's like getting married... ;D.
Luckily it seems I married the prettiest girl and as she ages, she still is... ;)
In other words: no problems whatsoever...
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Demonized... So.. Other companies managing to pull it off with the same hardware WITHOUT listening to copyright trolls, for about the same price, are just bad at making business then? Sometimes I think you are hired by D-link to promote their hardware at all costs...
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Demonized... So.. Other companies managing to pull it off with the same hardware WITHOUT listening to copyright trolls, for about the same price, are just bad at making business then? Sometimes I think you are hired by D-link to promote their hardware at all costs...
Weird that complaining seems to be the desired M.O. here.
Am I promoting their stuff? No way. I'm just trying to share some of my professional knowledge and I have a device that works without problems. I know for a fact that 90% of the posters present are to be considered n00bs. Not judging them, not everybody has to have the same level of expertise. But when it comes to issue resolving and pointing at causes they suddenly pretend to be THE experts.
It's sad they have issues, but apparently it's the easiest to point at a product and forgetting about all the nuances.
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Demonized... So.. Other companies managing to pull it off with the same hardware WITHOUT listening to copyright trolls, for about the same price, are just bad at making business then? Sometimes I think you are hired by D-link to promote their hardware at all costs...
Most of us here are not MODS and don't work for Dlink and with that being said some do have a little more experience then others. Good or bad we try to help or make suggestions to get them thinking how to solve an issue.