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Title: lag spike every minute
Post by: sujio on April 23, 2020, 02:36:22 PM
Hello
I just got the D-Link DWA 171 AC600 MU-MIMO USB wireless adapter for use on my desktop. About every minute I get a 3000 ms lag spike. I tested with my laptop connected to the same network in the same area with no problems.
I've googled and downloaded the most up to date driver for this adapter with the correct hardware version "C1" and the drivers for my motherboard.

I've also tried disabling the WLAN autoconfig as detailed here:
https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_7-networking/how-to-disable-wlan-autoconfig-for-proper-internet/fd8da170-5c68-e011-8dfc-68b599b31bf5

I've also searched this and other forums for similar problems and tried many solutions with no luck. Wondering if anyone else here has had this problem and found a solution. Thank you
Title: Re: lag spike every minute
Post by: FurryNutz on April 23, 2020, 03:22:17 PM
Be sure the adapter driver is up to date from here:
https://support.dlink.com/ProductInfo.aspx?m=DWA-171

What mfr and model host wifi router is the adapter being connected too?

Is this seen with other wifi routers?
Connect it to a different PC or laptop to see if the problem follows.
Title: Re: lag spike every minute
Post by: sujio on April 23, 2020, 03:53:32 PM
Thanks for the reply,
I fixed it actually by disabling windows update in services.msc, in case anyone finds this later.
All I know is that it's a router from Telus.
Title: Re: lag spike every minute (RESOLVED)
Post by: FurryNutz on April 23, 2020, 04:00:10 PM
Interesting. Glad that fixed it.
Enjoy.  ;)
Title: Re: lag spike every minute
Post by: bpieke on June 12, 2021, 02:36:06 PM
I have the identical problem, also with a Telus Wifi router and DLink AC600...

Disabling Windows Updates does not fix this for me.. is there not a better way to remove this 3000 ms pause every minute?
Title: Re: lag spike every minute
Post by: bpieke on June 14, 2021, 12:36:10 PM
I have sent a support request to DLink technical support in Canada and will report back if I get a resolution.
Now that I have trapped a few pauses with Procmon, I can state that my pauses are precisely 4000 ms, not 3000.
They start with:

2021-06-13 9:13:38.4159618 AM  DeviceIoControl\Device\MUP

And end with

2021-06-13 9:13:42.4129500 AM  DeviceIoControl\Device\MUP

Title: Re: lag spike every minute
Post by: FurryNutz on June 21, 2021, 07:51:28 AM
Let us know how it goes...

I have sent a support request to DLink technical support in Canada and will report back if I get a resolution.
Now that I have trapped a few pauses with Procmon, I can state that my pauses are precisely 4000 ms, not 3000.
They start with:

2021-06-13 9:13:38.4159618 AM  DeviceIoControl\Device\MUP

And end with

2021-06-13 9:13:42.4129500 AM  DeviceIoControl\Device\MUP
Title: Re: lag spike every minute
Post by: bpieke on June 21, 2021, 07:55:33 AM
I will.. thus far I am getting questions rather than answers..
Title: Re: lag spike every minute
Post by: FurryNutz on June 21, 2021, 08:02:13 AM
At least there interested and reviewing it. Keep on them about it.
Title: Re: lag spike every minute
Post by: bpieke on June 21, 2021, 08:09:01 AM
There appears to be a timer involved... exactly every second, there is a DeviceIoControl\Device\MUP command, and every 60 seconds this leads to 4 seconds of download interruption.
Is this a Windows thing?  Or is the DLink driver triggering this?
Title: Re: lag spike every minute
Post by: FurryNutz on June 21, 2021, 08:24:49 AM
Don't know...
If you can find the chip set mfr, Qualcomm, Realtek, Atheros...You could try to download chip set mfr drivers from them directly and see if you notice any differences. I know that Realtek and I believe Atheros have drivers for there chip sets. Not sure what model is in the 171 though. I know years ago someone posted using chipset drivers for I think the 131 or a older model DWA that worked vs using D-Links drivers. If you can see or find the model of the chipset, might be work testing to compare and let D-Link know. Maybe ask support what chipset this is using.

What Rev is your 171? A B or C?
Title: Re: lag spike every minute
Post by: FurryNutz on June 21, 2021, 08:30:02 AM
I found the following:
Rev A is Realtek RTL8811AU
Rev B is MediaTek MT7610U
Rev C is Realtek RTL8811CU
Title: Re: lag spike every minute
Post by: bpieke on June 21, 2021, 09:10:42 AM
Mine is Rev C.  Will give Dlink support a chance to respond... I am way out of my depth here.

I checked the driver, mine is actually newer (directly from DLink support).   1030.40.xxxx

For downloads, it does not really matter, but for Zoom meetings, a 4 sec pause every minute gets annoying..
Title: Re: lag spike every minute
Post by: FurryNutz on June 21, 2021, 09:56:02 AM
You might try this while you wait on D-Link and see:
https://www.realtek.com/en/component/zoo/category/rtl8811cu-software (https://www.realtek.com/en/component/zoo/category/rtl8811cu-software)
Title: Re: lag spike every minute
Post by: bpieke on June 21, 2021, 10:46:10 AM
When I try to install the driver, Windows says that "it has determined that I already have the best driver installed" and does not allow me to proceed.
Title: Re: lag spike every minute
Post by: FurryNutz on June 21, 2021, 10:48:13 AM
Did you remove the prior version first?
Title: Re: lag spike every minute
Post by: bpieke on June 21, 2021, 03:35:20 PM
Windows is not letting me... time to be patient, I guess..
Title: Re: lag spike every minute
Post by: FurryNutz on June 21, 2021, 04:45:18 PM
Windows didn't let you remove the current driver or did you use the Un-install feature in Programs and Features to remove the installed driver package?
Title: Re: lag spike every minute
Post by: bpieke on June 21, 2021, 05:00:54 PM
OK, you may be on to something... the Uninstall in Programs worked, and I was able to install the Realtek driver.
Appears to be working better for a test download..  Have a Zoom meeting coming up..  Will let you know!

Edit: Nope, problem persists.. reinstalled the DLink driver... Also better, at first... Maybe something is flakey here..
Works for a while and returns to its one minute interruptions later..
Title: Re: lag spike every minute
Post by: FurryNutz on June 21, 2021, 06:39:57 PM
Wonder if your Adapter HW maybe faulty.

Can you try the adapter on a different PC or laptop by chance?

Would need another 171 adapter to test with to see if same thing happens...
Title: Re: lag spike every minute
Post by: bpieke on June 22, 2021, 10:52:20 PM
Well, now trying a Netgear USB adapter and getting the very same 4 sec pauses.... guess it was not the 171..
The OP said that he fixed it by disabling Windows Updates in Windows Services, but that has no effect here, whatsoever..
Wonder what he meant??

Title: Re: lag spike every minute
Post by: FurryNutz on June 23, 2021, 07:07:23 AM
Are you still using a Telus Wifi router?
Title: Re: lag spike every minute
Post by: bpieke on June 23, 2021, 09:16:53 AM
Hi, thanks for sticking with this... Yes, I am still using a Telus WiFi Hub, just like the the OP... which got me thinking that we might have the same issue.
Have sent him a PM, but no reply.  Sending you a PM as well.

Back to troubleshooting..
I can run Zoom on a laptop or a tablet, using the same hub without problems, so it is specific to my Win 10 PC.

In the procmon traces, I can see a definite 4000 ms window every 60 seconds.
Starting with: 
Date & Time:   2021-06-13 9:13:38 AM
Event Class:   File System
Operation:   DeviceIoControl
Result:   NO MORE MATCHES
Path:   \Device\Mup
TID:   11552
Duration:   0.0000123
Control:   0x1403a4 (Device:0x14 Function:233 Method: 0)

And ending with:
Date & Time:   2021-06-13 9:13:42 AM
Event Class:   File System
Operation:   DeviceIoControl
Result:   NO MORE MATCHES
Path:   \Device\Mup
TID:   11552
Duration:   0.0000226
Control:   0x1403a4 (Device:0x14 Function:233 Method: 0)

There is an exact timing sequence here... 4000 ms - every 60 sec
Wonder what is triggering this..

Title: Re: lag spike every minute
Post by: FurryNutz on June 23, 2021, 11:43:16 AM
I would try a different wifi router or a WiFi unit that has AP mode abilities. Disable ALL wifi radios on the Telus router and connect up the wifi AP unit and see if this happens using a different wifi system.

Could be something in Windows as well. Happen to have a different PC to test with?
Title: Re: lag spike every minute
Post by: bpieke on June 24, 2021, 08:56:20 AM
My next step is to try an internal PCI Wifi card, instead of the USB adapter.. should arrive tomorrow..

A CAT5 cable connection to the router is the only good solution I have found, but I am in a separate room.. so not practical.
Title: Re: lag spike every minute
Post by: FurryNutz on June 24, 2021, 09:25:07 AM
I would recommend CAT6 at least.

Possible alternative would be to setup a Power Line adapters between rooms then ethernet using them as a suggestion.
Title: Re: lag spike every minute
Post by: bpieke on June 25, 2021, 12:46:11 PM
Just installed this:

https://www.asus.com/Networking-IoT-Servers/Adapters/All-series/PCE-AC58BT/

And as best I can tell, my problem has disappeared   :)

Will report back after a few days of real world usage.. but looking good!
Title: Re: lag spike every minute
Post by: FurryNutz on June 25, 2021, 12:58:57 PM
Nice adapter.

Something to let D-link support about know that using something different doesn't seem to produce the problem.
Title: Re: lag spike every minute
Post by: bpieke on June 27, 2021, 03:11:08 PM
Please consider this case closed... the solution was to remove the USB Wifi adapter and replace it with a PCI slot motherboard adapter.

Solid performance, no more pauses  :)
Title: Re: lag spike every minute (RESOLVED)
Post by: FurryNutz on June 27, 2021, 07:10:52 PM
Enjoy.  ;)