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Title: Trying to deal with 1.32NA.. Can someone help me? :(
Post by: rockbottom on September 12, 2009, 04:09:58 PM
Hey there..

The reviews for this router were better than most of the comparable Linksys models, which is why I bought it..

There are two issues I have, and I'm wondering if there are any, any at all work-arounds:

1. Is there any way to portforward with the firmware version 1.32NA? It doesn't seem to save the settings after I reboot. I've tried setting the portforward settings then exporting my settings, and importing them once it's rebooting.. but that doesn't help either :(

2. The Dynamic DNS updater doesn't use the correct IP. When using DNS-O-Matic, the router sends "192.168.0.2" as the IP -- is there a way to fix this?

Much thanks.. I've read a lot of these topics in here, but they're all complaints and do not offer any remedies (from what I've seen, correct me if I'm wrong!).

-rock
Title: Re: Trying to deal with 1.35NA.. Can someone help me? :(
Post by: Toilet-Duck on September 12, 2009, 04:58:40 PM
1.35? I thought the latest firmware was 1.32NA
Title: Re: Trying to deal with 1.35NA.. Can someone help me? :(
Post by: TallCool1 on September 12, 2009, 05:07:28 PM
Turn off DNS relay to fix #2

Taken from the firmware- "Note: When DNS Relay is enabled along with Advanced DNS feature, your workstations on the network that are obtaining an IP address from router’s DHCP server will obtain 192.168.0.1 (router’s IP address). However, traffic will still be protected.

Although Advanced DNS feature is enabled, DNS IP address of your workstation can still be modified to the DNS server IP you desire. Please note that the router does not dictate the DNS name resolution when DNS IP address is configured on the workstation."
Title: Re: Trying to deal with 1.35NA.. Can someone help me? :(
Post by: rockbottom on September 12, 2009, 05:38:02 PM
Turn off DNS relay to fix #2

Taken from the firmware- "Note: When DNS Relay is enabled along with Advanced DNS feature, your workstations on the network that are obtaining an IP address from router’s DHCP server will obtain 192.168.0.1 (router’s IP address). However, traffic will still be protected.

Although Advanced DNS feature is enabled, DNS IP address of your workstation can still be modified to the DNS server IP you desire. Please note that the router does not dictate the DNS name resolution when DNS IP address is configured on the workstation."


That's unfortunate, as I use the DNS relay to force the use of OpenDNS's DNS servers on my families PC's..

1.35? I thought the latest firmware was 1.32NA

Sorry for the confusion! I meant 1.32, really sorry ::)

Well.. I was going to give this router a chance, but it lacks necessary features that even the most basic router has to offer. It's going to get returned and replaced with a WRT54GL w/ DD-WRT installed, I suppose :'(

I really liked this router, and the reviews were great.. but the recent firmware upgrade really, really limits the use of the router :(
Title: Re: Trying to deal with 1.35NA.. Can someone help me? :(
Post by: bigeyes0x0 on September 12, 2009, 06:15:51 PM
First off: What are you missing with the DIR-655, speak up man, as others might be able to help. What is the most basic features that it lacks anyway?

As alternatives you should consider:
 - The Linksys WRT610n is looking good http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833124296 with its current price. DD-WRT also works nearly perfect on this now. It is a true dual band too.
 - BUFFALO WZR-HP-G300NH http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833162031 Don't know why it's review on newegg saying it sucks, for me its range was 2nd to none on consumer grade router and it has great feature set, too albeit the GUI can be better. You can search for its review on smallnetbuilder. DD-WRT support on this is a matter of time, although installing DD-WRT on Buffalo equipments is harder due to Buffalo encrypting their firmwares.
Title: Re: Trying to deal with 1.35NA.. Can someone help me? :(
Post by: rockbottom on September 12, 2009, 07:05:12 PM
First off: What are you missing with the DIR-655, speak up man, as others might be able to help. What is the most basic features that it lacks anyway?

As alternatives you should consider:
 - The Linksys WRT610n is looking good http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833124296 with its current price. DD-WRT also works nearly perfect on this now. It is a true dual band too.
 - BUFFALO WZR-HP-G300NH http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833162031 Don't know why it's review on newegg saying it sucks, for me its range was 2nd to none on consumer grade router and it has great feature set, too albeit the GUI can be better. You can search for its review on smallnetbuilder. DD-WRT support on this is a matter of time, although installing DD-WRT on Buffalo equipments is harder due to Buffalo encrypting their firmwares.

With the latest firmware I lack the two most basic features, noted in my first post: Portforwarding and DNS relay (apparently turning this off fixes my #2 question, but creates another!).

I was semi-okay with having to manually update my OpenDNS IP (since I'm on a dynamic IP with DSL, I have to use DNS-O-Matic, which won't work unless I turn off DNS relay; which defeats the purpose of even using OpenDNS) -- but with no solution to portforwarding? Come on! This is a great product with a horrible, horrible development team behind it (sorry, but in the tech world you have to prove yourself).

I'm very much so considering buying the WRT610N -- even though DD-WRT progress on it is a WIP (apparently you only need a JTAG if it's reaally bricked; but the new Management Console solves little debricking issues (uploading bad firmware, for example)). I'm just not too keen on spending nearly $200 on a router :o

I would consider the Buffalo one that you mentioned if, and only if, I had a chance to see what options I can customize (IE: DHCP reserved IPs, Dynamic DNS tools).. unfortunately I couldn't find anything (only did 2 searches, going to bed soon) regarding that :(
Title: Re: Trying to deal with 1.35NA.. Can someone help me? :(
Post by: bigeyes0x0 on September 12, 2009, 08:21:30 PM
What is wrong with Portforwarding? As I don't forward a range of ports currently here, I use Virtual Server (single port forwarding with different ability to select different internal and external ports) and Application Rules (Port Triggering). They works fine, and to be honest Port Forwarding was fine when I used it too. If you do it correctly and your port forward is still blocked, your ISP might be interfering.

To check whether your router did have an entry for virtual server and UPnP entry you can check it by logging to your router web interface then go to Status -> Internet Sessions. Your port map entries should be somewhere at the bottom having Internet side IP addresses as *.*.*.*. You can also use these tools here http://www.upnpworks.alcidelic.com/ and here http://www.codeproject.com/KB/IP/PortForward.aspx#Demo to check. These tools can be used to add temporary port forwards too, through UPnP.
Then after confirming that you did have these entries in your router table you can use either Speedguide Security Scan http://www.speedguide.net/scan.php or GRC shield up service http://www.grc.com to test your ISP block ports. This is done by entering the port that you forward into these scanners and let them scan your server. Obviously, only TCP test (UDP is speedguide only and only works if your server returns answer when it received UDP packet through its listening port) is reliable and remember to start your server applications first.

About your DynDNS problem, why not use the router client if you only have one host name? Well it won't work if you have more than one, but do you need more than one anyway? I haven't checked if using DNS-O-Matic works but the client inside this small http server http://www.rejetto.com/hfs/ works for me with DNS Relay on. I haven't used this router with DNS Relay off. I will try DNS-O-Matic later. It seems like a cool service. The configuration you have problem is DNS-O-Matic client with DNS Relay on right?

About alternate routers again: the WRT610n is actually selling for 133$ currently on newegg. That's a steal. The Buffalo one, I guess you have seen this but here you go http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/content/view/30889/96/1/1/ .
Title: Re: Trying to deal with 1.35NA.. Can someone help me? :(
Post by: bigeyes0x0 on September 12, 2009, 09:16:28 PM
I wrote How to use DNS-O-Matic with your DIR-655 Dynamic DNS client (http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=7987.0). I guess it will help you with your problem.
Title: Re: Trying to deal with 1.35NA.. Can someone help me? :(
Post by: rockbottom on September 13, 2009, 07:07:16 AM
@bigeyes0x0

Are you using firmware 1.32NA? Because that's what this thread is about, and it looks like you're not using it.. I have 1.32NA and it will not, I repeat will NOT, save any settings for Virtual Server or Portforwarding. When I do the required reboot it gets cleared, and I'm positive this is a known problem..

Also, I told you that I'm using the Dynamic DNS feature on the router, but it doesn't work unless you turn off DNS Relay, which I need :-\

I'm not a network novice by the way, I've done this stuff for years. It's the firmware that's causing issues, and I was merely wondering if there was a viable way to portforward and get the dynamic DNS feature working, but apparently not.
Title: Re: Trying to deal with 1.32NA.. Can someone help me? :(
Post by: EddieZ on September 13, 2009, 07:09:57 AM
It does save fine here with 1.32NA. So if your claim is that is really does not it's kinda premature. But why believe me....
Title: Re: Trying to deal with 1.32NA.. Can someone help me? :(
Post by: rockbottom on September 13, 2009, 07:15:11 AM
It does save fine here with 1.32NA. So if your claim is that is really does not it's kinda premature. But why believe me....

I would not lie to you.. it does not save, period.

I type all my settings into the Portforwarding (or Virtual Server, both don't save) section, click save Settings, then it asks me to reboot. Just to see if my changes were intermittently saved I clicked Reboot Later and yes, they were there. But once the reboot is complete, the settings are nowhere to be found.
Title: Re: Trying to deal with 1.32NA.. Can someone help me? :(
Post by: lizzi555 on September 13, 2009, 07:21:12 AM
I had the same problem with this version, it did not save any advanced settings.
So I installed 1.31 again and it worked. Then flashed 1.32 NA again and it worked.

Don't forget to reset to factory defaults for each new flash. And configure it manually, do not use a saved settings file.

It works !

(http://lizzi555.dyndns.org/PICS_ETC/vserv132.PNG)
Title: Re: Trying to deal with 1.32NA.. Can someone help me? :(
Post by: rockbottom on September 13, 2009, 07:23:02 AM
Thanks for sharing your solution :)
Title: Re: Trying to deal with 1.32NA.. Can someone help me? :(
Post by: bigeyes0x0 on September 13, 2009, 07:27:17 AM
Indeed, it might be a bad flash or you load the old config of your previous firmware. A reflash then reentering all your settings might help. And BTW I'm on 1.32NA, functionality wise it's ok but stability is not really good after a few days.
Title: Re: Trying to deal with 1.32NA.. Can someone help me? :(
Post by: EddieZ on September 13, 2009, 11:30:17 AM
I would not lie to you.. it does not save, period.

I type all my settings into the Portforwarding (or Virtual Server, both don't save) section, click save Settings, then it asks me to reboot. Just to see if my changes were intermittently saved I clicked Reboot Later and yes, they were there. But once the reboot is complete, the settings are nowhere to be found.

I believe you. Just don't make it sound generic.
Title: Re: Trying to deal with 1.32NA.. Can someone help me? :(
Post by: rockbottom on September 13, 2009, 11:51:32 AM
I believe you. Just don't make it sound generic.

My bad :-[

Anyways, I figured out a "solution" (for now, at least) for the portforwarding issue.. just use the "Reset to Factory Default" option, of course I had to set everything back up.. but portforward options save now :)

Now if only I could use DNS relay and the dynamic DNS updater together  ::)
Title: Re: Trying to deal with 1.32NA.. Can someone help me? :(
Post by: BAZZA on September 13, 2009, 12:19:27 PM
I'm setting up a brand new DIR-655 (A4) router.  I'm planning to start with setup of the 1.2.1 firmware that shipped in the unit.  Trying to browse forums to see if there's some good reason to update Firmware to 1.32NA and what I read is that 1.32NA is somewhat flakey. 

Are you saying that if I type in all settings on 1.21 then later decide to upgrade Firmware that I can't use the Saved configuration file feature of the DIR-655 but must re-key all settings? 

Is 802.11b supported on Firmware 1.32NA.  Lots of threads about Firmware 1.30 on-again-off again, but I can't find any references to what the final resolution was.  Do you know if 802.11b works with 1.32NA?

Thank you!
Title: Re: Trying to deal with 1.32NA.. Can someone help me? :(
Post by: alphanumeric on September 13, 2009, 04:32:29 PM
I have a DIR-655 with 1.32NA and wireless B shows up as an option in the wireless settings. I believe the general consensus is you should setup all your settings manually after flashing to newer firmware. Then save a new config file after you are done. I wouldn't be in a big rush to flash to 1.32NA. Read some of the treads in the Shareport section. 1.32NA broke Shareport for me and caused some stability problems for others.
Title: Re: Trying to deal with 1.32NA.. Can someone help me? :(
Post by: bigeyes0x0 on September 13, 2009, 06:26:50 PM
@rockbottom: Have u tried reflashing? I'm on 1.32 and the DIR-655 Dynamic DNS updater works as it should for your reference. I think you got a bad flash. Reset your settings to factory default, flash again, then set it up by hand again. Now you can save the new configuration file if you want to restore in case you mess up for the same firmware version.

BTW, sorry if my details explanation offended you. It's my job habit kicking in. When the same configuration works for me, and not for a user the first thing I thought of is this user's error, obviously. A way to rule out this is to give as much details as possible so the user can do it so. If there's still problem, I'll consider other possibilities then.
Title: Re: Trying to deal with 1.32NA.. Can someone help me? :(
Post by: rockbottom on September 13, 2009, 06:31:13 PM
@bigeyes0x0
You're fine. I've administered an open-source community, programmers have the worst egos ever.. haha, I'm sooo used to it!

I haven't had the time today to fiddle with it, but I am going to re-flash it to see if that fixes anything. I'll report back once I do.. /pray ;D
Title: Re: Trying to deal with 1.32NA.. Can someone help me? :(
Post by: BAZZA on September 13, 2009, 09:07:11 PM
alphanumeric: Thank you.  I've been running all day on 1.21 and will stay with it for a while as it seems to deliver what I need for my LAN.  Will test the Shareport later.  The Web interface works well .. by skipping the SW load on the provided CD and just doing what needed to be done, I got things working pretty quickly. 
Title: Re: Trying to deal with 1.32NA.. Can someone help me? :(
Post by: alphanumeric on September 14, 2009, 04:42:14 AM
I'm so used to manually logging into my router I never even consider running the setup program from the CD.

I just redid everything from scratch in an attempt to get Shareport working. I downloaded a fresh version of 1.32NA and the 1.10 Shareport utility. Reset to defaults, flashed it to 1.32.na "again", and setup all my settings manually. I did not touch any of the hidden settings. Installed Shareport 1.10 and setup my printer. Only time will tell, so far it's been almost 24 hours and its still working. I won't be surprised if it quits again but it would be nice if it didn't.
Title: Re: Trying to deal with 1.32NA.. Can someone help me? :(
Post by: MityQ on September 15, 2009, 09:54:52 PM
Completely forgot to check firmware updates, router working well on 1.21 BUT, I was thinking of upgrading the firmware to 1.32NA.

Quick question, is a firmware update from 1.21 to 1.32NA OR should I do a 1.21 to 1.31 to 1.32NA and finally, is the 1.32NA firmware stable ?? only thinking of updating because I'm using UPnP and recently added a MAC mini to my network.

THANKS for any help
Title: Re: Trying to deal with 1.32NA.. Can someone help me? :(
Post by: bigeyes0x0 on September 15, 2009, 11:25:04 PM
You can go straight to 1.32, but IMO if you don't have any problem with your current firmware UPnP included, don't upgrade as that might introduce problem.
Title: Re: Trying to deal with 1.32NA.. Can someone help me? :(
Post by: rockbottom on September 16, 2009, 02:09:45 PM
Ok, I'm officially done with D-Link haha

I re-flashed my router (first I reset to default settings, then did the re-flash).. then I proceeded to set the routers IP address to 192.168.1.1, then set the DHCP range to 192.168.100-192.168.1.199, reboot, and behold! The router SOMEHOW came back up with the settings that I had before I re-flashed, what the hell?

I was able to portforward for like 15 minutes after I had re-flashed, then s*** hit the fan. I could edit the boxes but I could not check the enable checkbox (I could, but it wouldn't save). Then later I couldn't even edit the textboxes. So.. I'm done. This has caused me enough problems..

Good luck to you guys, I hope they fix their mistakes in the future.

PS- If you're wondering why I have to set my routers IP to 192.168.1.1, it's because my modems IP is 192.168.0.1, so there's a conflict there. Anyways, ttyl. WRT610N HERE I COME BABY!
Title: Re: Trying to deal with 1.32NA.. Can someone help me? :(
Post by: bigeyes0x0 on September 16, 2009, 07:21:42 PM
You may have a faulty unit, oh well tolerance has its limit. I hope it will work out for you.
Title: Re: Trying to deal with 1.32NA.. Can someone help me? :(
Post by: alphanumeric on September 21, 2009, 05:28:37 AM
I just redid everything from scratch in an attempt to get Shareport working. I downloaded a fresh version of 1.32NA and the 1.10 Shareport utility. Reset to defaults, flashed it to 1.32.na "again", and setup all my settings manually. I did not touch any of the hidden settings. Installed Shareport 1.10 and setup my printer. Only time will tell, so far it's been almost 24 hours and its still working. I won't be surprised if it quits again but it would be nice if it didn't.

7 days and it's still working.