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The Graveyard - Products No Longer Supported => Routers / COVR => DIR-655 => Topic started by: ozzed3 on December 22, 2009, 03:27:17 AM
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Hi again fellow D-linkers. I'm Ozzed. I was banned from this forums awhile back for revealing to the public that the 655 indeed has Bridge mode functionality (They have just hidden it by CSS hacks), and maybe having opinions that the so called moderators don't like..
Anyway.. I'm a nice guy so I forgive them.. Just wanted you to know how they deal with people who aren't always all "D-link is always right".
Anyway 2: I'm having some issues now with my router since I moved to a new apartment. At first I'd get no connectivity at all but after having software and hardware-reset the router and slapped the 1.30EU firmware onto it it works great, except this one thing.. It keeps freezing up on me after a day or so of use, the status light and other lights will still flash, but I can't access the interface, and I can't get any connectivity through it.
If it is of any help I am pretty much constantly seeding torrents.. not that I THINK it has anything to do with it because, well.. Having payed $120 for a router I kind of expect it to, you know.. work.
Thankful for any help and so forth.
Oh and mods.. If you decide to be all childish again and ban me.. I DO know how to connect through a proxy, and it's not like I don't know how to make new threads either. You'll only embarrass the company you work for by trying to pretend everything is fine and that no one is complaining.
And you also need to quit spamming with "Wireless AP" products. The Dir-655 works fine as an AP.. You shouldn't hide it..
Thanks for reading.. I'd be surprised if this gets to stay here longer than a day and I'd have to redo it all again, but don't worry, I saved a copy of the thread in notepad, so I'll be good.
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Just applauded,
I didn't get banned yet but I was called a troll because I just kept on asking the same question.
I kept on asking the same question because I didn't get any answer or got an evasive answer.
Probably critical customers are not really appreciated.
Some of the people on this forums think it is necessary to call them noob or troll. They back this by calling themselves experts and asking complainers to come up with a solution.
Bet I get smacked for this ! :D ;) ;D :P
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To be fair, I'm not the only person who found out about D-link's pitiful attempts of hiding the bridge functionality. But then again regular users will never find out if you get banned.. There isn't a "This user is banned"-flag like on most other forums. It just appears as through they are not posting..
So the next time someone makes sense and suddenly stops posting, they probably got banned.
I honestly don't see why they are so uptight about this.. The bridge functionality is there and it works flawlessly.. If they want to be "Green" they shouldn't force us to buy more useless boxes with circuits in them.. But the "Green" might mean dollars for them.. Not sure..
Anyone know any causes/solutions to my issue with the restarts by the way?
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The bad thing, imho is that bridge functionality was easily accessible in fw 1.03,
it is a basic router function that should never have been taken from the standard menu's.
I agree with you that this is contradictive with any "green" intention other than cashing in.
It looks like every new fw leads to new problems or trades in old for new problems.
People over here that mention the fact that other brands have problems too forget that for most
other brands there is alternative fw (dd-wrt and a few more) that solves most if not all problems.
My choice is to trade in D-Link for other brands that, at least at the moment, provide better reliability
and better performance.
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My point exactly. ALL other brands include visible, easily accessible bridge mode in their routers, because it is a de-facto standard. And, for that matter, suits the whole "Green" approach well since the costumer won't have to get additional hardware to get the functionality.
D-link should either stop telling lies about the bridge mode and unhide it in the CSS-code or drop the whole "We care about the environment"-talk. Because REMOVING bridge-mode functionality is something no one at d-link has the skill for. Ubicom wrote the GUI to begin with and probably assumed that D-link was a company that understood that bridge mode is considered a de facto standard in today's routers.. Especially the ones you pay hundreds of dollars for.
Regarding my problem I have tried to limit the upload slots per torrent and limited the upload-speed to 100KB/s to try and figure out if it's an issue with the number of simultaneous connections.
Needless to say is that if I'm suddenly not typing anymore, or even more likely, if this thread gets deleted. I'm banned and just need some time to get yet another account.. Just letting you know.
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Having had similar problems(network congestion like) I was pointed at netlimiter pro 2
go and have a look at www.netlimiter.com it's an affordable piece of software that serves me well.
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Not sure if this is related... I was having wireless restarts issue on my router 2 days ago. Found out that I enable IPV6 on one of my desktop for DLNA client for BRAVIA TV.
Disabling IPV6 fixed the wireless restart issue..you can try that if that works for you.
Also can you respond to my PM...
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I was banned from this forums awhile back for revealing to the public that the 655 indeed has Bridge mode functionality (They have just hidden it by CSS hacks), and maybe having opinions that the so called moderators don't like..
Please be thruthful here: you weren't banned because of 'revealing' the presence of the bridge feature. If my memory serves me well it was 'trolling' that caused it.
There are many posts about the revealing of the bridge feature on the 655 thread, pics included. So you're trying to sell a dead horse.
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Am I missing something then? I didn't know that users could see if other users got banned or not, but anyhow the reason it states for the ban is "Flaming", which is among the most ridiculous excuses I have ever heard. I never "flamed" anyone. Although by D-links standards criticism towards people with an unconditional love for their products and a "Move along nothing to see here"- attitude towards pin pointed issues counts as flaming too. Besides.. the fact that they have removed all threads describing how to repair their messed up CSS to get bridge mode function visible should tell you something. It is horrible.
Regarding my problem: I'm on a wired connection and the router is freezing rather than restarting. I'm using windows 7 though.. Might be some IPV6 things switched on by default or something.. Not really sure if that would have an impact though.
Edit: I found this thread: http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=4542.0
So I guess I was wrong about them deleting threads about the bridge mode... Anyways, since you were so sure that I was being banned without being intended to have the knowledge I suppose that solves the whole "WTF??" issue of me being banned without having broken any rules.
I doubt you'll be getting free stuff from D-link by nicely eating from their hand though.. But here's one for you.. Even though you personally may think it is perfectly natural to buy extra hardware for functionality you have in your existing one, the majority of us don't.
I KNOW that the Dir-655 is intended as a router, and I also know that it is a de facto standard to offer bridge mode functionality for a router. So in that sense, until D-link comes clean about it, the Dir-655 is in fact a CRIPPLED router, and that doesn't even take the rest of the firmware issues into account.
And if you claim you didn't report me or whatever, then I'd like to know how you found out I was banned.. This is starting to look more and more like a big joke.
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Sorry about the double-posting but.. Thing would get kinda cluttered with edits otherwise..
The router just died on me again... First time it has actually happened when I'm on the computer.. Usually happens at night when I sleep. I'm starting to suspect this thing can't handle more than x open connections at a time.. It's ironic how in Sweden they market it as "Perfect for those using torrents". More to come.
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Am I missing something then? I didn't know that users could see if other users got banned or not, but anyhow the reason it states for the ban is "Flaming", which is among the most ridiculous excuses I have ever heard. I never "flamed" anyone. Although by D-links standards criticism towards people with an unconditional love for their products and a "Move along nothing to see here"- attitude towards pin pointed issues counts as flaming too. Besides.. the fact that they have removed all threads describing how to repair their messed up CSS to get bridge mode function visible should tell you something. It is horrible.
Regarding my problem: I'm on a wired connection and the router is freezing rather than restarting. I'm using windows 7 though.. Might be some IPV6 things switched on by default or something.. Not really sure if that would have an impact though.
Edit: I found this thread: http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=4542.0
So I guess I was wrong about them deleting threads about the bridge mode... Anyways, since you were so sure that I was being banned without being intended to have the knowledge I suppose that solves the whole "WTF??" issue of me being banned without having broken any rules.
I doubt you'll be getting free stuff from D-link by nicely eating from their hand though.. But here's one for you.. Even though you personally may think it is perfectly natural to buy extra hardware for functionality you have in your existing one, the majority of us don't.
I KNOW that the Dir-655 is intended as a router, and I also know that it is a de facto standard to offer bridge mode functionality for a router. So in that sense, until D-link comes clean about it, the Dir-655 is in fact a CRIPPLED router, and that doesn't even take the rest of the firmware issues into account.
And if you claim you didn't report me or whatever, then I'd like to know how you found out I was banned.. This is starting to look more and more like a big joke.
No sure knowledge about your bans, but I do seem to remember that making the forum a blowhole for all kinds of complaints and ranting does not contribute to the purpose of the board and does not welcome other users trying to get some user-assistance....
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Now look here.. If it wasn't for the fact that there indeed IS something wrong with the way D-link are dealing with their stuff right now, no one would agree with me, tell me to go to bed and just deal with it. Instead pretty much everyone agreed with me. The only people who didn't agree seems to be the ones who think that just because they don't have a problem, no one does.
Like I said, if you are fine with wasting money for a separate AP, go ahead and do that, no one is stopping you.. But you won't get any extra stars in anyone's book for kissing D-link butt.
The router is still up and running at the moment, and it works fine. It seems like it jumps from working just fine to completely freezing up.
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The router still has some issues in the stability department. It seems they pop on different places. I offered my help multiple times and gave a lot of info too (see a few of my threads where I can get the router to die daily). Dlink does not put much effort into getting to the bottom of and solving the problems and it seems indeed you are not really allowed to speak up about it.
In the end were it comes down to is that I understand people's frustration, Dlink brings it onto themselves by not giving it the attention it deserves.
In fact the router has not been stable since I bought it in February (and sure some will deny that again). Which company can afford not bringing out a decent stable software version for about a year??
What is double frustrating in this is that some people on this forum are trolling by constantly making people out for trolls and sorts. All they ever seem to contribute is "carry on folks nothing to see here". Now those people need to be banned! ;D
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The above poster sums up what I mean on the spot. Well spoken.
The router has died AGAIN.. My settings now are 50 peers per torrent and 1000 global connections.. That's making torrents barely usable but I'm keeping it like this for testing purposes. I'll see for how long it wants to live this time.
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I just tried changing the firewall settings from endpoint independent to port and address restricted. Maybe it dies because D-link cheaped out on the RAM or something.. Or simply because it seems to be D-link logic to hide stuff that works, and display stuff that doesn't. What I'm trying to say is that maybe the router gets too many connections for it to handle if the filtering is set to endpoint independent. I'll get back to you and tell you how it goes. Unless of course I'm banned till then.
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do you turn ddns off?
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If you mean Advanced DNS, yes, I've turned that off.
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I have the port fixed (high number >30000) and port forwarded it. Works ok on my current stable linksys wrt150n.
Had i already implemented same way on the DIR-655. But the reboots took too all my attention to get that under control.
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The port isn't the issue. It works fine when it works. It's just that after x ammount of hours the router goes into brick-mode until manually restarted and I'm suspecting now it might have to do with the firewall setting. 4 hours up and running now on port and address restricted setting. About to go to bed so let's see if it can keep itself alive till tomorrow.
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1.32 Beta 9 (in my case) has a kind of watchdog that reboots automagically when the device gets into trouble. It is still not all right in my book but beats having to unplug the device yourself. Which version are you running?
Edit: hahaha my previous remark cost me 3 karma points: now that's what I mean!
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1.32 Beta 9 (in my case) has a kind of watchdog that reboots automagically when the device gets into trouble. It is still not all right in my book but beats having to unplug the device yourself. Which version are you running?
Edit: hahaha my previous remark cost me 3 karma points: now that's what I mean!
Is that automatic reboot something that's in there for testing, or is that going to be a "feature"?
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How does this Karma thing work anyway? I can't seem to find any applaud or smite button anywhere.
On topic, the router has been up and running (and running torrents) for 13 hours now.. Too soon to say but it sure SEEMS like the endpoint independent filtering is the issue.
I'm running the 1.30EU B08 version (The Beta08 being the version they decided on as good enough to release to the public).
So where would I look for this auto reboot thing if there even is one?
And knowing D-link it would probably be a feature.. That way they can get rid of anyone saying that their router has random reboots.. "It's not a bug.. It's D-link innovation"... Sign..
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auto reboot: it's one of the hidden extra bonus features in 1.32NAb09 I think
if you use the EU version don't think it is wise to cross over. Once you go NA you never go back! ;)
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I wouldn't want to put NA firmware on it anyway. I hear even American users use EU software because it is more stable and such. And the EU version still allows the USB port to be used to connet a 3G moden and such.
Still up and running.
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Just to confirm: My router has been running OK for days now so it was the firewall setting. DO NOT use "Endpoint independent" setting if you are using torrents. Even though this "Platinum" router is being advertised as "Ideal for torrent users" (At least here in Sweden), it just won't cut it with the "endpoint independent" setting.
I'm truly disappointed.
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*SIGH*... Seems I was jumping to conclusions.. My router died AGAIN last night.
If there is a single person out there who is able to run torrents 24/7 on this "router" please let me know.. Also it would be greatly appreciated if you let me know connection/firewall setting on the router and number of connection and anything else relevant like number of connections on the client and such. Thank you.
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*SIGH*... Seems I was jumping to conclusions.. My router died AGAIN last night.
If there is a single person out there who is able to run torrents 24/7 on this "router" please let me know.. Also it would be greatly appreciated if you let me know connection/firewall setting on the router and number of connection and anything else relevant like number of connections on the client and such. Thank you.
I know you won't believe me, but I have torrents running 24/7. And no reboots.
Utorrent 2.1
Bandwith:
max total no. of connections - 450
max no of connected peers - 100
No of upload slots per torrent - 6
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I will try these settings and let you know how it goes. I'm using Microtorrent on windows 7.
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Up and running for 2 days and 13 hours now. So it seems the settings work ok.. But what is it that fails? On other routers I've been able to have my original (100K+ simultaneous connections) settings and the router won't hang. Is there anything I can do to make the 655 discard of the connections it can't handle so that at least it won't die? Thanks.
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My router too hangs up to where i have no connectivity. and the wireless is even more sporadic. but the general consensus here seems to be it is a firmware issue that dlink is aware of. it is a shame you cant go back to previous versions of firmware, but what can you do. i really liked this router when i bought it a year ago. so i hope they release a new version of the firmware that is out of beta soon. i don't really care about the 3g usb connectivity. i might check out this 1.32na beta 09 firmware.... but im hesitant. like ozzed3 i have yer to pinpoint what exactly causes it to bomb out. but i don't use ANY torrents. i do however run a personal ftp, that is lightly used (5 times a month maybe)
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Since it works when I reduce the maximum number of simultaneous connections to ridiculous levels I think it is simply a matter of the router being unable to be.. A router.. All other routers I have tried could have many more connections and not die on me. I don't know what it is they did to make it work. but it is obvious that D-link is losing ground to the competition.. What good is 250Mb of throughput when you can't use it?
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Phuck Yeah!!! My ROUTER DIED THIS MORNING AGAIN!!!! So.. I suppose even with snail settings for torrents it will NOT work..
Question.. I'm not 100% sure where the proof of purchase for this router is (I bought it over a year ago) but do you really need one? The router has 11 years of warranty and I doubt they made any 655's in 1998.
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11 years of warranty? You may want to double check that, I'm pretty sure that they all had 1 year of warranty service.
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Mine also has 11 years. It was a promo, you know 802.11 N, 11 years of warranty. LOL
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It says "11 Year warranty" on the box. I live in Sweden (Europe) and at least that is what they give here. To be honest I wouldn't have payed $120 for a router if it didn't have that many years of warranty.. I was thinking "Wow.. These here guys are really sure about the lifetime of their products!"... Boy was I wrong... HAHA
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Update.. It seems that as long as I limit the upload speed to be below the max I can get, the router doesn't die. Does this even make sense?
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Update.. It seems that as long as I limit the upload speed to be below the max I can get, the router doesn't die. Does this even make sense?
Makes very good sense since your upload bandwidth is easily congested with BT. The number of requests you get is much larger than the actual connections that are made. It's a kind of DDoS ;)
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What confuses me is that with my old $25 Belkin router I could set the upload speed to 0 (For those of you that didn't know, this makes upload rate limited only by your ISP upload bandwidth) And I could have the number of connections set to millions, and the device still didn't freeze up.. What might have been the reason for that?
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Something that hit me is that it might have to do with DDoS protection.. if for some reason it is turned off, but just because I for once in my life was gonna try and mess with the setting, I can't find it.. Anyone know where it is?
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Advanced-Firewall settings.
No specific DDoS setting, but two related settings which can be a pain...
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Never thought of that.. Hmm.. Seems odd that SPI or Anti-spoof-checking will make the router freeze but maybe I should try turning it off.
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so how long has it been up for now? I gave up on the dir 655. Got the 825 and it's been up for 20 days. It seems to handle a household of torrenters a lot better than the 655. Just food for thought if you get tired of fiddling with a product you shouldn't have to touch...and dd-wrt and openwrt work on it now. :)
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It's been running for about 4 days now.. Still seems to work as long as I cap the upload to just under what the connection is capable of. This behavior is still puzzling me though.. I have never seen anything like this with any other router.
I'm not too keen on the 825.. I'm sure it works well since it's DD-WRT capable and such, but it's too expensive for me and it has only got two antennas.. And in all honesty, after all the trouble with the 655 my next router will probably not be a D-link unless they REALLY make it worthwhile with the upcoming firmware releases.
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so how long has it been up for now? I gave up on the dir 655. Got the 825 and it's been up for 20 days. It seems to handle a household of torrenters a lot better than the 655. Just food for thought if you get tired of fiddling with a product you shouldn't have to touch...and dd-wrt and openwrt work on it now. :)
Has it been running for 20 days using D-Link firmware?
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yea it's been using dlink's firmware. Just excited about ddwrt support now, but I don't wanna break something that isn't broken for me.
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yea it's been using dlink's firmware. Just excited about ddwrt support now, but I don't wanna break something that isn't broken for me.
Cool :)