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[joeouts]

Does anyone know the correct way to piggyback my 4500 off of a Verizon wireless router.

I have changed my 4500 Router ip to 192.168.1.254 and disabled DHCP.

What else do I need to do? I'm stuck.

Thanks for any help.

[Trikein]

Not sure which one you have but:

http://www.actiontec.com/support/product_details.php?pid=188&typ=all#q27

Can I Bridge the Actiontec MI424WR router that Verizon provided, when I signed up for FiOS service?
The MI424WR does not have a bridging option, and neither Verizon nor Actiontec support attempting to bridge it.

The desire to bridge the MI424WR is based on a misunderstanding that it is a modem as well as a router. Actiontec does produce DSL Gateways that have a Transparent-Bridging option, which bypasses or disables the router function and allows the Gateway to act simply as a DSL modem, when it is enabled. Many consumers do not realize that with FiOS, the ONT (typically outside the home) is the device that handles changing the FiOS signal from Fiber to either Ethernet or Coax, and that the Router is just a Router, and if it was bridged or bypassed, it would be a device without a function. For most Verizon FiOS customers their service would completely stop if the MI424WR was bridged, because the Video on Demand service is dependent on it to work.

If your ONT is connected to the Actiontec MI424WR router via Coax, the MI424WR is required due to the Coax connection. But if the ONT is connected to the MI424WR via Ethernet, then in most cases some other router can be substituted for the MI424WR, and it can be removed.

So not sure. I couldnt bring up the PDF, so it doesn't look good. Seems that its not actually a modem/router combo but a router via MoCa and might be the heart of some of the DVR's functions in your house. Might want to send Verizon a Anom email to find out. Anom just in case they don't like you doing it. Good luck

[joeouts]

My Verizon router is the main router (router 1) and my D-Link 4500 is the piggyback router (router 2).

Router 1 has crappy range so I want to use the D-Link for wireless.

I want to add a cat5 cable from the LAN port on router 1 to the WAN port on router 2 and use router 2 for my wireless needs. I don't believe that I need to do anything to router 1 except maybe change the IP range. This is where I am stuck. What do I additionally need to do besides what I posted originally.

[V@nо]

Besides what you've done so far all you need is CAT5 cable connected from LAN port of your Verizon router to a LAN port of your DGL4500, not WAN port.
Oh, and two more things:
make sure that your Verizon router is at 192.168.1.x range
probably wouldn't be a bad idea turn off wireless in Verizon router, less interference.

[Trikein]

But that will mean you will be at the mercy of all the Firewall and NAT settings of router 1, since by connecting a LAN to LAN, your basically just turning the 4500 into a wireless access point. Not a bad thing, keep in mind that mind if your run into any port issues or such.

[FurryNutz]

Why not assign the router 2 IP address to the DMZ on router 1 if it has that capability? This would avoid the NATg and Firewall of router 1.

[V@nо]

As far as I understand the OP, the only reason they want use 4500 is because of it's wireless capabilities, nothing else...otherwise why would they want use verizon router in the first place?

[FurryNutz]

why not just shut off the Verizon wireless and go with the 4500 and let it get all the wireless info from the verizon wireless router however not sure if the OP can do that with his ISP modem/router

[joeouts]

The Verizon router has wireless turned off. I do not want to make the 4500 an access point. (LAN to LAN).
I want to piggy back it. Router 1 LAN to Router 2 WAN. Router 1 does not have the range of the 4500 which is why I want to use the 4500 for wireless.

The only reason I'm doing this is because I have to use the Verizon router for the service I just had installed to work (TV, phone, internet). I had Comcast before and only had the one router.

[V@nо]

1) perhaps I don't understand the meaning of your termin "piggy back", but it does sound like an access point to me...
2) most modern modems/routers can be configured to use it only as a modem and completely turn off router capabilities. These that ISP provide usually have two user level logins and the one that provided to the customer have no authorization to access such settings. In some cases it could be done remotely by calling ISP tech support. (In my case, RoadRunner, I had to get to level 3 tech support before they first admit that this can be done and then turned it off. My brother did same thing in Ireland with his 3 years old dsl modem/router).

[Trikein]

The problem is I believe Verizon uses their router as part of the MoCA interface for whole house DVR and multimedia access on the desktop. Another words, you can't totally shut down its routing function. I think I have a idea of what your trying to do, and sounds simular to another user who was trying to "piggyback" a 4500 on top of a 4300. Try this:

http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=13794.0

Bridge Mode vs Relay vs Acess Point (AP) / Routers vs Dedicated Access Points (AP)

Let me know how it goes. Good luck.

[joeouts]

Well, I have it set up as an access point and its working. I think i'll see if Verizon has a modem instead of the router they gave me. Then I can go back to the way I had it set up with comcast. Thanks for all your help.