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Author Topic: Large Storage Transfers Capable?  (Read 9473 times)

domy85

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Large Storage Transfers Capable?
« on: November 01, 2010, 11:17:24 AM »

Current Setup for my DNS-321
*2x Western Digital 500gb 16mb cache drives
*Raid 1 config
*Firmware 1.3

Is their ever going to be a fix or a solution for backing up my c:/ without it timing out? I read so many posts and tried everything and nothing works. The only thing I havn't tried was hard wiring, but that would defeat my purpose of backing up other pc's in the house wirelessly, that are not near the router.
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gunrunnerjohn

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Re: Large Storage Transfers Capable?
« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2010, 12:01:02 PM »

I think you need to figure out what is broken.  I have copies 100's of gigabytes at a crack to and from the DNS-321 without any timeout issues, so it's not a universal problem.
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domy85

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Re: Large Storage Transfers Capable?
« Reply #2 on: November 02, 2010, 01:06:50 PM »

Can you be more specific. I also can copy large amounts of data without failure, for instance, from a external hard drive I had about 100gb's worth of exe's and documents, photos, videos etc. Its whenever I try to run a backup I come back 2 hours later or so and it says lost connection to the network drive etc. It will maybe get 25gb out of 100gb worth done before it fails. I read that many users that have this dns-321 also experience the same issue. I made sure the drives do not hibernate nor go idle for a very long time. This happens with multiple backup programs, not just microsoft backup. This could be certain files being backed up that cannot be copied causing it to fail, but what leads me not to believe this is that the error says that the network drive lost connection. Its possible that my dlink gamers lounge router drops the connection, but i looked in the router logs and do not see anything. Im curious if I have to set anything differently on the router. All my devices are dhcp reserved.
« Last Edit: November 02, 2010, 01:13:00 PM by domy85 »
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jamieburchell

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Re: Large Storage Transfers Capable?
« Reply #3 on: November 02, 2010, 01:56:05 PM »

Can you be more specific. I also can copy large amounts of data without failure, for instance, from a external hard drive I had about 100gb's worth of exe's and documents, photos, videos

What has copying data to an external hard drive have to do with copying data to your NAS via your network?
I would put money on wireless transfer of 100GBs of data being your issue. Sometimes when I transfer large amounts of data to/from my wireless laptops and 323, it seems that the wireless network disconnects momuntarily. Despite that, I can stream gigs of data to my media streamer. Maybe even Windows is the issue here.
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gunrunnerjohn

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Re: Large Storage Transfers Capable?
« Reply #4 on: November 02, 2010, 02:28:10 PM »

I'm betting on the wireless link. :)
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domy85

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Re: Large Storage Transfers Capable?
« Reply #5 on: November 03, 2010, 07:28:46 AM »

Thanks guys for your logical input. I will run a backup via a cat6 cable and see what happens. Just curious, I have a 12mb connection, would it help "Wirelessly" if i upgraded to a 24mb connection?
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jamieburchell

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Re: Large Storage Transfers Capable?
« Reply #6 on: November 03, 2010, 07:41:55 AM »

If "12mb" connection refers to your internet connection, it won't make any difference to your internal network speed - including your internal wireless speed. "Wireless N" is currently the strongest/fastest wireless "standard" over Wireless G.
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gunrunnerjohn

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Re: Large Storage Transfers Capable?
« Reply #7 on: November 03, 2010, 07:56:00 AM »

FWIW, wireless varies widely, regardless of the standard used, it's totally dependent on the environment.  The same equipment in a different location can yield totally different results.
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domy85

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Re: Large Storage Transfers Capable?
« Reply #8 on: November 03, 2010, 07:59:36 AM »

Interesting to know.
« Last Edit: November 03, 2010, 08:41:41 AM by domy85 »
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jamieburchell

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Re: Large Storage Transfers Capable?
« Reply #9 on: November 03, 2010, 08:01:30 AM »

I've never understood why with all my wireless Windows laptops (with varying wireless cards) that sometimes using Windows to copy a massive file (or more likely, more than one massive file at the same time) seems to cause a breakdown between the laptop and the 323. I get a "network connection no longer available" or "The semaphore timeout period has expired". Throughout though, the wireless link remains connected and the signal strength/quality good. Several seconds later and I'm able to try again.

Yet, I use robocopy to backup files wirelessly to the 323 with no issues at all and I stream gigs of HI-DEF videos from it to my media streamer too.
« Last Edit: November 03, 2010, 08:03:03 AM by jamieburchell »
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gunrunnerjohn

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Re: Large Storage Transfers Capable?
« Reply #10 on: November 03, 2010, 08:04:25 AM »

Jamie, that's why I never use wireless for large file transfers. :)  I want to a lot of trouble to have wired capability all around, so wireless is strictly for carrying laptops and other wireless equipment around and connecting to the Internet.
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jamieburchell

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Re: Large Storage Transfers Capable?
« Reply #11 on: November 03, 2010, 09:56:42 AM »

Jamie, that's why I never use wireless for large file transfers. :)  I want to a lot of trouble to have wired capability all around, so wireless is strictly for carrying laptops and other wireless equipment around and connecting to the Internet.

It's exclusively bad from my laptops though - that's what I can't fathom. I've got an ethernet to wireless bridge that connets to my wireless N network and streams gigs of media from the 323 (wired to router) no problems at all. Try to copy two large videos at the same time in Windows and something will bomb out.
One day I'll fire up my Linux distro and see if the problem exists on there too.
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gunrunnerjohn

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Re: Large Storage Transfers Capable?
« Reply #12 on: November 03, 2010, 03:07:33 PM »

I truthfully rarely use wireless for any large file transfer.  I will admit, I have synchronized my laptop with the network for a few gigabytes using 802.11n without any issues.  Sometimes I just don't remember to connect the CAT5 cable on the bench. :)
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