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Author Topic: What is the point of these OLED Screens IF they do not stay on?  (Read 10791 times)

Cube

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What is the point of these OLED Screens IF they do not stay on?
« on: December 04, 2011, 10:28:38 AM »

 ???

What is the point of these OLED Screens Dlink Has been putting on some routers IF they do not stay on?

IF i place the router Up high on a wall for best reception I have to stand on a fricking chair to push the screen on buttons to get the Info i Need.  IF the thing stayed on I can read it from the floor no problem.

And why get rid of the light lights too anyway I can not tell when Traffic is flowing through with out light they should have had both and for the people that did not want them they could turn them off in the firmware.

ME I want them and since the OLED they have been using do not stay on I like them better than the oled screen since I can read them with out touch the router.

I had a DGL 4300 before that and since It died i got a DGL 4500 since it had the cleaner gamer lounge browser based UI and function like my old DGL-4300 that gave me no issues for like 5 years before its death.  the only complaint i have of the dgl-4500 is it had no LED network traffic lights and the OLED screen does not stay on so i cant tell what is going on anymore.


Seriously they should have used something other than OLED if it was not ready to handle being on all the time  like a  LED back lit LCD screen.  like on my 2 logitech keyboards they stay on 24 hours a day 7 days a week with no issues and give me tons of info.  and it's ironic since I can touch the screen with out having to push a button and it's under my finger all the time.



I was excited to hear they was putting screens in these things until i found out it was a oled that have short lifespans  Espcially blueish ones  and could not stay on 24 hours a day that killed the point of them.

If the oled cant stay on 24 hours a day it should have the standard LED lights to go with it and the oled screen should be a 2nd way to get network info not the only way.

I see Dlink is still putting in the same OLEDs and keeping the LED lights out of them except 1 model and it was "limted edition" I could not find it to buy anywhere or i would have got that Dlink should not be replacing the lights if these OLED screens are not ready to handle everyday use 24-7, you end up getting less info since you have to get up and push the fricking screen button every 5 seconds to see what is going on.


screen like these in these logitech keyboard ( http://www.logitech.com/en-us/keyboards/keyboard/devices/gaming-keyboard-g510 ) should be the ones they are using so what if OLED are brighter and use less power if they cant stay on they are almost useless I would take a worse looking less bright power hungry screen that could stay on any day of the week it's more useful.

http://www.logitech.com/en-us/keyboards/keyboard/devices/gaming-keyboard-g510

Oh and if so called screen burn in is the so called issue why not just have the OLED cycle it's self through the menus or change the image every so often automatic to prevent this?     That photo frame  router screen they got you can keep it on 24 hours if you want  and it looks like it is a way more expensive full color LCD type screen.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylJdT-GMILo&feature=related
« Last Edit: December 04, 2011, 10:50:53 AM by Cube »
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Re: What is the point of these OLED Screens IF they do not stay on?
« Reply #1 on: December 04, 2011, 11:52:22 AM »

Umm ok. Was that question or a statement?
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Re: What is the point of these OLED Screens IF they do not stay on?
« Reply #2 on: December 04, 2011, 12:35:18 PM »

Probably because 99% of the time nobody is looking at them and they are only for quick reference and diagnostic purposes only. There will be no option to keep the OLED on or off. It's programmed in to the FW and thats the bottom line.

Enjoy the router for what its is. It's been one of the greatest routers out there. Everyone I know enjoys it. I love mine. I hardly ever use the OLED and mostly use the web page.

If you really want extra stuff on a router then maybe you should try something else.

Enjoy.
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Re: What is the point of these OLED Screens IF they do not stay on?
« Reply #3 on: December 04, 2011, 10:14:34 PM »

Yea, the display was mostly to attract people to the router that didn't really know too much about routers. Its like when they put shiny holographic pictures on the front of cereal boxes. But like most flagship models, even if you strip off the bells and whistles, you still have a very solid platform.
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Re: What is the point of these OLED Screens IF they do not stay on?
« Reply #4 on: December 05, 2011, 06:07:56 AM »

Yea, the display was mostly to attract people to the router that didn't really know too much about routers. Its like when they put shiny holographic pictures on the front of cereal boxes. But like most flagship models, even if you strip off the bells and whistles, you still have a very solid platform.

I like shiny things.  :)
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Re: What is the point of these OLED Screens IF they do not stay on?
« Reply #5 on: December 05, 2011, 06:54:40 AM »

Karl, Look out for those head lights.  :o
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Re: What is the point of these OLED Screens IF they do not stay on?
« Reply #6 on: December 05, 2011, 12:03:59 PM »

If you want network information "At a Glance" and since your 4500 is high up, use the Yahoo widget on ur desktop.  That will give you *most* of the information which is shown on the screen (Minus a few things).
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Re: What is the point of these OLED Screens IF they do not stay on?
« Reply #7 on: December 09, 2011, 07:37:17 PM »

No I think the screen IDea on routers has hard core IT netowork use and it is a good IDea only Dlink botched the job so horrible and by picking the wrong type of screen to use they made there idea useless.

in other words I posted this to hope dlink fixes there ideas and gets it right next time desgin and fucntion of the idea is everything.


1, to get into the browser based system i have to have my PC on or my android tablet or some other junk with a browser to look at it,  

2, in the morning I don't want to screw with it i just want to look up and see blinking lights to make sure my download or network traffic is still flowing on to the right PCs on my way out the door .    And or a good screen which these OLEDs are not since they do not stay on.

3 I use my netowork to connect a small Maya and 3d Render farm  if I network trafic on the router stops I know my rendering job failed and I need to go see what is wrong or the other way around if I see tons of network traffic going when It should be doing something then I know something is up and I should go check.



The oled screen don't my help life  even if the router is good its a step backwards for my uses.  

And all dliks routers from now on should use the gamers lounge browser UI./  The browers UI on there other  routers is junk and messy the gamers lounge UI pwns all other routers browser UIs so far except maybe the linux DD-WRT based ones.

and the so called faster cPU than standard models but who knows if it's still fast since this router is like 3 years old and dlink never says what speed the cpus in these things are it could be a slow CPU now and the standard ones have faster CPUS now.

 I Was going to get the Dual band white one they got but the Browser UI was garbage, the 4500 pwned it in clean browser UI.  to bad the dlink dont have 5ghz and 2.4ghz at the same time though.

http://www.dlink.com/products/?pid=548

So if dlink wants to do it right next put the leds back, get a better type of screen like a LED back lit LCD like the logitec keyboards use.

The 4300 was awsome and the dgl 4500 could have been prefect if they kept the LED lights of the 4300 and put in a real screen that could stay on.

Hell the LCD don't even have to be back lit it could use a old dot matrix gameboy LCD like my cordless phone uses and it would still be better than the OLEDS I don't care if its bright and looks good it's useless if it don't stay on.

its Like shipping a tV with out a remote nobody wants to walk over and change the channel and if the is one for games who wants to get up from there game to check and make sure they have not been discconected from network when something goes wrong, for all you know, it's a small hiccup and the game will turn back on when you get up.



If only they would have made it be like this one LED status lights and a Real SCreen that stayed on they would have almost router perfection. if they make a new 4600 model like that I Would buy it even if my 4500 is still working when it comes out.


http://www.dlink.com/products/?pid=625

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Re: What is the point of these OLED Screens IF they do not stay on?
« Reply #8 on: December 10, 2011, 10:42:55 AM »

Your right the OLED is a kewl feature. Just  won't be one that fits your needs man. DLink hasn't botched anything up. They make routers designed for various needs of users and markets. It's up to the user to find what router fits there needs. Not Dlinks. That's what users don't understand most of the time. Users just go out and buy any old router and expect it to work for them with out any regards to what there network needs are, i.e. gaming, streaming, small business and such. People go out and buy the cheapest router then complain that it's doesn't work for them. These router DO work, just needs a little more thought and consideration on what users needs are. So the 4500 doesn't broadcast simultaneous, Not alot of people need that or have a need for 5Ghz either. This is a great router as a stand lone or if only on 2.4Ghz. If people need 5Ghz and 2.4Ghz then theres the 8 Series routers that do that. Those are great routers too. Ya maybe the 4500 would have beed a greater router if it has simultaneous however we don't know that or maybe they tried and based on the code and designs, maybe it made the router worse. Only DLink knows and we'll never find out. So why not run 2 4500s like I have, one is on 2.4Ghz and one is on 5Ghz as an AP.

Again, people need to give a little forethought to what there needs are before getting a router. And if some routers don't work for them then by all means try something different. We see people all the time trying to run the cheapest Dlink router in a small business platform and there trying to do things that some of these routers were not designed to do and yet some while blame DLink for it. This is not DLinks fault. So get over it. Theres routers out there what will work for every situation. And if you don't like what DLink does with there product, then theres always other Mfrs available. It's a free world we live in.

Enjoy.
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Re: What is the point of these OLED Screens IF they do not stay on?
« Reply #9 on: March 12, 2012, 03:20:26 PM »

Yea, the display was mostly to attract people to the router that didn't really know too much about routers. Its like when they put shiny holographic pictures on the front of cereal boxes. But like most flagship models, even if you strip off the bells and whistles, you still have a very solid platform.

LMAO.  I nearly fell out of my chair.

I also wonder, how much of this isn't...OOOh...I heard x, y, z's the <insert market hype here (fastest, coolest, most expensive, etc.)>  I too was surprised to see they don't stay on, nor is there a feature to keep them on (or off), but, there are SOOO many more things I'd like to see first this really barely effect me.  Now that I have it, I like that it doesn't spend processing cycles for something I rarely look at.  To be fair though, I must admit it would be nice to have a toggle so I can turn them on for as long as I need them (while trouble shooting) then off again later, without having to be where it is.
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Re: What is the point of these OLED Screens IF they do not stay on?
« Reply #10 on: March 12, 2012, 03:44:14 PM »

Well considering this unit isnt made any more and the need of this feature isnt a critial path need for customers, i highly doubt any new features or requests are comming to this great router. How ever we can dream.  ::)
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