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Author Topic: Just as an Access Point  (Read 7105 times)

TheButler208

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Just as an Access Point
« on: February 28, 2010, 07:42:27 PM »
I have another router.  A 310N linksys.  I want it to do all the routing as it has way more qos features.   I want my d-link to do the wifi portion as it is good at wifi.  How do I make it an access point?  Theres no "bridge mode" and I can't seem to effectively disable NAT. 
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Jasu

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Re: Just as an Access Point
« Reply #1 on: February 28, 2010, 09:05:21 PM »
If you really can't change the operating mode from "router" or "gateway" to "bridge", you could try connecting the router and DIR-615 so, that you don't use the internet interface for cable. Just plug the cable into standard interface.
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TheButler208

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Re: Just as an Access Point
« Reply #2 on: February 28, 2010, 10:42:57 PM »
thats what I do, but I don't want to be having two devices trying to operate NAT.  And in this router there is no way to turn it off. 
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TheButler208

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Re: Just as an Access Point
« Reply #3 on: February 28, 2010, 10:49:46 PM »
like i folloed the DIR-615 instructions on how to use it as just a wap, but how can i be sure NAT is disabled.  If this thing is trying to NAT on conjunction with my router, it can mess up my online game hosting.  

EDIT:  What I did was change the IP of the 2nd Router (DIR-615) to 10.10.10.1 so its not even on the network.  It need not be on the network and no device needs to know its IP.  The wifi portion and the switch are completely enslaved by the linksys, as far as ip and networking are concerned.  I just did a test, and I can connect wirelessly no problem, and the other computer connected to it by ethernet has no issue either.  To access the router all one must do is make his or her IP on the 10.10.10.x/24 network.  (or whatever off your network IP range you chose)  Wireless and hard-wired connectivity are maintained, but to other than Router 2 navigation on the intranet or internet is not possible without using a 192.168.2.x/24 address.  I think, now that router2 is in its own world, any NAT issues have been quarentined. 

I believe any guide on adding a 2nd router and making it a WAP, wireless access point, or a switch simply in need of more ports, should add changing the IP of router2 to somewhere off the network.  Most guides include giving router2 an IP within the network, and say that it is required.  This I now know is not true.  I thought long and hard as to why router2 would require an IP and could not think of one; Other than wanting to easily access router 2 for whatever reason.  This however is not worth it for the problems that can ensue.  D-link should change their manual, seeing as you can't make this relatively expensive router an access point easily without ensureing firewall, and nat are off.
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tbrimm

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Re: Just as an Access Point
« Reply #4 on: March 01, 2010, 06:46:41 AM »
1.  Change the LAN (network) IP on the 615 to an available IP on your network that is NOT within the DHCP server range on your 310.  Example: if your 310 is 192.168.1.1, then make the 615 192.168.1.2.  DHCP addresses typically start at #.#.#.100.
2.  Set the network mask to 255.255.255.0
3.  Disable uPNP
4.  Disable the DHCP server
5.  Leave the Internet settings as a DHCP client.
6.  Connect a LAN port on the 310 to any LAN port on the 615.  Do not connect anything to the WAN (Internet) port.

Now your 615 is a simple switch/WAP.  NAT'ing happens in the router, which you are not using (that is the WAN port).  You'll have 3 LAN ports available for other devices, plus the WAP if you choose to enable that.  IP addressess for any devices connected to the 615 will be assigned by the 310 (the router and DHCP server).  There will be no double-NAT'ing, period.
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