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[Remingtonjoe]

Hello guys, 

Is the sticky posted at the top labeled "Gaming and Game fuel" for the PS3, the same settings as the xbox.  I know that post uses the xbox as an example.  I want to know what my setting should be for my router to optimize my PS3. (I'm hard wired not wireless).  I tried to call the company to get them to tell me what was what as far as the settings were concerned, but they didn't seem to have a clue.  So anyone that can point me to a guide or can help me understand what does what would be great.  Thanks in advance........Remington Joe

[FurryNutz]

Been told those settings work well with PS unit even though I haven't been told or found anyone that has other settings to add. Seen a couple of people on here mention it works fine. I found these settings by searching the internet for Gamefuel settings a couple of years back. I would check with Sony/PS or a PS forum and see if they have any more specific settings to use. These are ports that XBL and possibly Sony uses as well for all Console Gaming. If you get any other details for PS, let me know so I can add them to the sticky as I don't have a PS to use. Let us know.

[Trikein]

To be honest, I leave custom Gamefuel rules alone. I just leave everything to auto and turn off fragmentation on the upstream and I am good. Other then:

1. Set a DHCP Lease for your PS3
2. Assign  the fallowing Gaming(AKA Port Forward) to that IP
TCP   80, 443, 5223
UDP   3478, 3479, 3658, 5223
3. Game Fuel Section:
Shaping = Yes
Auto Uplink
Cable ISP(Or what ever you have)
Auto Class = Yes
Dynamic Frag = No
4. Set DNS Relay on
5.Hardwire direct to CM and power cycle. Start > Run > CMD > Ipconfig /all
6. Copy the DNS servers. (Reconnect the router and full HN pwr cyc)
7. Set these as your static DNS in the router.
8. Turn off Unicasting and Turn on Multicasting
9. Set the Firewall to UDP Address restricted and TCP endpoint restricted
10. Turn off "Always broadcast".

I can give more detailed instructions if you want, but don't know what your experiance levle is. This was just done by memory....plus Im tired. :-)

[Trikein]

Oh, also, two final things. The XMB speedtest is GARBAGE. Test using the PS3 browser...which is garbage as well, but I won't go there. And last, most of your lag issues are going to be host/server related, so don't aim for perfection.

[FurryNutz]

Trikein

if you can come up with detailed setup procedures for Sony play stations I could add that to the Game sticky. Seems like there more and more people asking about PS and would like to have a good over all summery of what you guys use for PS. Let me know. I'd like to be able to include PS along with XBL and PC's.

[zippoking]

I still don't get why this matters for xbox or ps3, in the post titled "Xbox 360 Port forwarding" you said:

Well Its nice to know they are covering the bases. I can only presume that who ever wrote that up, could have been in the same boat I was when researching the settings after I got this router. I found the same settings for (1) xbox. Thus I presumed that this was needed and required for the router and xbox to work well when gaming. I never found any information for settings for households with 2 more more gaming consoles. As time has pasted and learning from my buddy with multiple consoles and now that I have just bought my 2nd one. I wonder if some of this information they post can be out of date or at least some what mis-leading to the point that this information was based on using 1 gaming console and not multiples of 2 or more. Yes, when I only had one, did use the gaming settings and it worked fine. So I suppose that this information could work ok for 1 console, however since hearing about my buddies issues with his 3, seems like were finding that Gaming and port forwarding isn't really needed for consoles, at least XBL. I think they are needed for PC's however.


Soooo, does anyone really know what gamefuel and/or port forwarding does for you for console games?

[Trikein]

I am not sure what you mean. What does it do? Port forwarding, forwards certian information through ports, or openinings, in the firewall on your router. Certian features and certian games send and recieve information through these ports to maintain constant connection between your game and what your game is connecting to. With PS3, the three big things are game server, PSN store, and game chat. Gamefuel is a intellegent QoS that allows more direct control of the traffic on your network.

Long story short, Port forwarding does UPnP faster. And Gamefuel is D-link Intellegent QoS streamlined and with automatic classification of games.

[zippoking]

Well the gist of that whole thread was that port forwarding doesn't matter for game consoles, just PC games.  Maybe thats not the case though?

[FurryNutz]

This could be the case if the original poster is using 1 console. I originally had one console and had Gaming setup to port forward the preset for XBL. I had my friend in OK with 3 consoles doing the same thing and he told me that he had sign in issues if 2 or more consoles were turned on. I had him remove All Gaming, port forwarding settings for his xbox and his sign in issues were resolved. Not fully understanding the Gaming function, and learning more, it seems that Gaming is for just that, port forwarding for PC games and PC applications that may need may this functionality.

Gaming consoles generally do not need this as they are technically not considered a host. They are a client that connects to a host service, i.e. XBL or PS. Thus the Gaming feature of the 4500 is of no use for consoles. However I could be wrong in that if PS has the ability to host games like a PC would then maybe yes,  the Gaming features of the 4500 would benefit the PS consoles. I don't have one so I can only make a presumption here.

As far as xbox goes, they don't have any ability to host a game like a PC would. Yes you can host a game while gaming on XBL however your still a client on the service and people are just joining you thru the service. Gaming for XBL is not beneficial and is only beneficial on the PC, say if you were playing Halo 2 for PC, then Gaming features of the 4500 might come into play.

Again these are my experiences.

[Trikein]

Well the gist of that whole thread was that port forwarding doesn't matter for game consoles, just PC games.  Maybe thats not the case though?

I thought the OP was comparing Xbox settings to PS3 settings. not Xbox to PC. And there not the same.

Xbox ports:  http://support.microsoft.com/kb/908874

TCP 80
UDP 88
UDP 3074
TCP 3074
UDP 53
TCP 53

PS3 Ports: http://us.playstation.com/support/answer/index.htm?a_id=241
TCP Ports: 80, 443, 5223, and 10070 - 10080
UDP Ports: 3478, 3479,  3658, and 10070
TCP Ports: 80, 443, 5223
UDP Ports: 3478, 3479, 3658

As you can see, PS3 is more complicated. Routing for PC depends on the game. If the question is can you port forward for multiple xboxes? The answer is yes, because its based on the mac address of the unit. Two identicle Xboxes will have unique mac addresses. Im kind of tired, so perhaps I am missing the point.

[FurryNutz]

It's probably a dead horse by now.  

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[zippoking]

My question was is there any point to the game fuel/port forward settings for PS3

[Trikein]

Yes, there is a point. It gives you great control over the QoS placed on all traffic on your network. But I am done with this thread. See ya