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Author Topic: any problems with storing/using outlook.pst on NAS???  (Read 20241 times)

marklyn

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any problems with storing/using outlook.pst on NAS???
« on: November 24, 2008, 02:44:56 PM »

I'm having a heck of a time getting my Outlook 2007 to 'recognize' my outlook.pst file one my DNS-321 device!! I can move my outlook file to a local folder outlook will open it, no problem.  When I try to configure Outlook to the location it is stored on the NAS server I always get a '...the file outlook.pst is not a personal folders file"
I put a copy on a local drive, and it works fine!

I'd like to hear from anyone that is using the outlook file on your DNS-321/323
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marklyn

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Re: any problems with storing/using outlook.pst on NAS???
« Reply #1 on: November 24, 2008, 03:47:54 PM »

as an update, I removed Office 2007 and installed 2003 in place.  I had no problem accessing the outlook.pst file on the NAS device.  Other than the downgrade, nothing else changed.

Wonder if this means that there is a problem with outlook 2007 .pst files and the DSN-321?  Anyone else have this setup and no problems?
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czhower

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Re: any problems with storing/using outlook.pst on NAS???
« Reply #2 on: December 28, 2008, 09:46:03 AM »

Did you try toggling the oplocks setting? IIRC there is a note about this in the PDF. PST's are also notoriously troublesome on networks.
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jumboframe

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Re: any problems with storing/using outlook.pst on NAS???
« Reply #3 on: December 29, 2008, 06:28:09 AM »

I also agree with czhower, I don't have the link to forum where it was previously discussed, but having network shared .pst files is often a network bottleneck.  It may not be noticeable in a single user environment, but multiple .pst files and multiple users accessing the nas at the same time would really drive down peformance.

Not sure if this would be any use to you, but I found this tool to be of great help on my network.  Its an outlook .pst backup tool that is made by microsoft.  Here is the link:

http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/outlook/HA010875321033.aspx

You could schedule backups to your nas this way.  Hope this helps.
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czhower

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Re: any problems with storing/using outlook.pst on NAS???
« Reply #4 on: December 29, 2008, 06:37:01 AM »

NTFS can store special file attributes that NAS devices cant. Not much software uses them, but possibly 2007 does. Search about 2007 pst files on network and see if anything turns up.
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Dad Man Walking

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Re: any problems with storing/using outlook.pst on NAS???
« Reply #5 on: February 28, 2009, 09:59:15 AM »

FWIW, you can run Outlook PST files from mapped drives on another (networked) PC, this worked for me with the mapped file running on either a FAT32 or NTFS file system.  I suspect the compatibility problem is with the EXT2 file system, vs. the file being run networked instead of locally.

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smcpartlin

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Re: any problems with storing/using outlook.pst on NAS???
« Reply #6 on: June 09, 2009, 03:21:36 PM »

Ok the product support specialists told me that since the device is using a form of linux and files are written in this EXT2 format that some programs that use some of the features in NTFS will not work.

PLainly outlook 2003/2007 can't write a file to the DNS-321.

They also wanted to say that their website clearly states this and any user that is thinking of buying one of these should eaisly find that info.

ummm, not being able to support outlook is a big issue.  That's like saying here's a nas but you just can't write everything to it... just some things.

So while I don't suggest people run their pst files from the device.. you can't even export to a PST file on the DNS.  Ummm that's just plain silly.

Someone mentioned the microsoft tool:
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/outlook/HA010875321033.aspx

Has anyone installed it and was able to make a share on the DNS as the target?

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ECF

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Re: any problems with storing/using outlook.pst on NAS???
« Reply #7 on: June 15, 2009, 09:45:02 AM »

These types of file are best stored on a Windows share to keep the files original attributes. Once moved or saved to a device that is not a windows share the file will be wiped of its original attributes set by the program creating the file in Windows.
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Dad Man Walking

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Re: any problems with storing/using outlook.pst on NAS???
« Reply #8 on: June 17, 2009, 01:03:06 PM »

These types of file are best stored on a Windows share to keep the files original attributes. Once moved or saved to a device that is not a windows share the file will be wiped of its original attributes set by the program creating the file in Windows.
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Fair enough...and the OP clearly indicated that they wanted to run the PST from a networked location.  But what about backups...I am under the assumption that a simple file-copy of the PST, stored on the NAS, could be restored to the PC and should function fully.  I certainly hope this is the case...am I correct?
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Re: any problems with storing/using outlook.pst on NAS???
« Reply #9 on: June 17, 2009, 01:20:51 PM »

For backups make sure the Map Archive feature is "on" enabled in the Network access list.
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zlatan24

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Re: any problems with storing/using outlook.pst on NAS???
« Reply #10 on: May 01, 2010, 07:56:23 AM »

I'm having a heck of a time getting my Outlook 2007 to 'recognize' my outlook.pst file one my DNS-321 device!! I can move my outlook file to a local folder outlook will open it, no problem.  When I try to configure Outlook to the location it is stored on the NAS server I always get a '...the file outlook.pst is not a personal folders file"
I put a copy on a local drive, and it works fine!

I'd like to hear from anyone that is using the outlook file on your DNS-321/323
Yesterday my friend sent me couple important emails,but I couldn't received it no one knew how why. But fortunately later as things turned out my outlook password was damaged. I entered in the Internet and started seeking the tool which could be help me. I was lucky and found it - forgot password outlook,it was situated on a soft forum. The software helped me for seconds and absolutely free as far as I remember.
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smithdogg1

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Re: any problems with storing/using outlook.pst on NAS???
« Reply #11 on: May 06, 2010, 04:59:57 PM »

I would agree that for the most part a majority of the people using this device are not storing a massive collection of Outlook PST files and trying to access them from the device, and I do not think it is a huge deal that it isn't possible to do, as I like using EXT3 since I have windows and a MacBook that access data from the device so the trade off of not needing two NAS devices, one for my Mac and another for my windows boxes is worth it. BUT that said I do have a 500 Mb PST file that I currently backup to a different NAS AND an external HDD RAID5 enclosure, but in the future I may want to back it up to the DNS-321 instead and it would be very bad if I was backing it up and then needed to restore it and found out that it was unusable because EXT3 could not properly read it.

I am going to assume that EXT3 will have no issues storing a copy of a PST, but that Outlook will run into trouble trying to read/write to a PST file that is stored on an EXT3 formatted drive. But to be safe I am going to create a test .PST file, copy some emails into it, then copy it to my DNS-321 and see if I can then copy it back to my windows box and map it in Outlook, I will post back with the results. Makes you wonder what other types of application specific files does this apply to? Quicken database files would come to mind right away. Just further proof that you should ALWAYS TEST your backups out and make sure they will work BEFORE you actually need to use them/rely on them. Yes that sucks in a way but IMO there is no such thing as a device that you can simply copy files to or hit a button to backup files too and then not think about again until your drive fails and you desperately need the data back. But I someone who has seen too many people loose important files too many times to risk it myself. Perfect example is a friend of mine who had his laptop drive fail and lost many media files but more importantly work related documents/emails, he then under my advise purchased an external HDD but against my advise began to backup his system just using the "one touch easy button" many drives have these days. Well his laptop drive failed again and guess what happen when he went to restore his data, there was an old outdated copy of his stuff from what appeared to be the first backup the drive ever did but nothing after that, and even worse the files were saved in big chucks of archived ISO/ZIP type files as the drive was formatted FAT32 none of these could be over 4 GB in size so there were a ton of them with files scattered across each one.

Call me paranoid but I am a guy who runs a 500 GB RAID1 Array on their primary system and keeps the most important stuff there including documents, music and pictures, then has two separate 1 TB drives for media, one for movies and one for TV shows (don't keep all your eggs on one basket theory). I then keep a backup of all the data from each of those drives stored on a 4 TB Lacie Big Disk NAS which is configured JBOD and then backs up all the data from that NAS onto a locally attached "DAS" device that has three 2 TB drives in RAID5 for 4 TB of storage total. In case anyone is wondering that device is the Promise Smartstor DS4600

http://www.guru3d.com/article/promise-smartstor-ds4600-das-review-test/1

And also if anyone is wondering what I use my DNS-321 for it is my media box, in other words another copy of all my music/movies and then whatever TV series I am watching at the time live on there. This serves as yet another backup but mainly it serves up the media to my Western Digital Live and PS3, one of which is hooked up to my Projector and the other my bedroom TV.
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zlatan24

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Re: any problems with storing/using outlook.pst on NAS???
« Reply #12 on: October 26, 2010, 03:56:40 PM »

I'm having a heck of a time getting my Outlook 2007 to 'recognize' my outlook.pst file one my DNS-321 device!! I can move my outlook file to a local folder outlook will open it, no problem.  When I try to configure Outlook to the location it is stored on the NAS server I always get a '...the file outlook.pst is not a personal folders file"
I put a copy on a local drive, and it works fine!

I'd like to hear from anyone that is using the outlook file on your DNS-321/323

Many times I came across other problems with Outlook emails. But one day some weeks ago I had very difficult issue, which to my good fortune I could settle by means of a software, which I had found at a soft blog. Probably it has more capacities than I noticed - lost microsoft outlook pst files.
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