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Author Topic: DNS-323 not indexing files correctly  (Read 10387 times)

Assasin110

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DNS-323 not indexing files correctly
« on: February 06, 2009, 05:56:06 PM »

My DNS-323 is not indexing files correctly. As they are not showing up on my PS3 when I do manual refresh, etc... That being said most files are showing up and are 100% playable on PS3. No DLNA errors or anything like that. Just some files I cannot get to appear, even after the manual refresh, resets of both PS3 and DNS-323. I've done a refresh and waited, this has been the case for apprx. 5 or 6 days. Why is it not indexing the files correctly?...anyone?
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slyder

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Re: DNS-323 not indexing files correctly
« Reply #1 on: February 07, 2009, 12:05:29 PM »

My DNS-323 is not indexing files correctly. As they are not showing up on my PS3 when I do manual refresh, etc... That being said most files are showing up and are 100% playable on PS3. No DLNA errors or anything like that. Just some files I cannot get to appear, even after the manual refresh, resets of both PS3 and DNS-323. I've done a refresh and waited, this has been the case for apprx. 5 or 6 days. Why is it not indexing the files correctly?...anyone?

What filetypes are you trying to see?.. I have the same issue with Matroska type files ( .mkv ).  This unit simply does not recognize them therefore will not serve them through the media server...

Waiting to see if this gets updated quickly or not
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ttmcmurry

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Re: DNS-323 not indexing files correctly
« Reply #2 on: February 07, 2009, 03:01:16 PM »

The 323 doesn't serve up .aac, .m4a, or .mkv files.  :)   It's all been requested.  The PS3 can't play .mkv so even if D-Link made it shareable (and they should), your PS3 still won't see it.
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Assasin110

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Re: DNS-323 not indexing files correctly
« Reply #3 on: February 07, 2009, 08:03:50 PM »

It's an .mt2s w/out .acc - Also there are some .vob files I'm having issues with as well. Like I said it's only some of them though. The majority of my catalog works fine.
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ECF

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Re: DNS-323 not indexing files correctly
« Reply #4 on: February 09, 2009, 11:41:45 AM »

The UPnP AV media server does not support .mt2s file types so it will not be seen on the media server when you connect to it.
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slyder

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Re: DNS-323 not indexing files correctly
« Reply #5 on: February 09, 2009, 02:21:53 PM »

The UPnP AV media server does not support .mt2s file types so it will not be seen on the media server when you connect to it.

OK.. are we detecting a common BIG issue here yet?... Perhaps enabling a user definable file types table would alleviate many of the complaints for such a simple issue... as the unit does't transcode the video anyways, what difference would it make..least that way we could define the filetypes that are compatible to the hardware we are running for which this unit was purchased to serve!..

Why permit such poor customer experience over something this simple? 

Just my .00698 cents worth
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ECF

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Re: DNS-323 not indexing files correctly
« Reply #6 on: February 09, 2009, 02:51:34 PM »

We will see what can be done in the next firmware I don't know if it is that simple but we'll see what is added.
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ttmcmurry

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Re: DNS-323 not indexing files correctly
« Reply #7 on: February 09, 2009, 06:03:26 PM »

It's not as trivial as saying "serve this file" - the file has to be understood by the 323 first. 

For example... Take into consideration the 323 doesn't share via UPnP .AAC music files, but it does share .mp3 files.  Let's also assume someone tries to get smart and renames song.aac to song.mp3 in order to get around it. 

If the 323 didn't have built-in checking, and served up this file to your PS3 - it could cause unexpected things to happen including frustration and possibly corruption or undesired operation of the PS3 and possibly the 323 itself. 

The UPnP server in the 323 looks for known file types by extension first, then looks to see if the file is valid, then reads the artist, song title, genre, and other attributes, depending on the file it's presently scanning.  In other words it has to have logic or the 323 acts as a "non-intelligent" server and spit out whatever requested whether or not the data is valid/good/appropriate.  At least the way D-Link has it setup, there is an expectation and a stable product with a reasonable user experience.
« Last Edit: February 09, 2009, 06:09:08 PM by ttmcmurry »
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slyder

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Re: DNS-323 not indexing files correctly
« Reply #8 on: February 10, 2009, 05:16:44 AM »

It's not as trivial as saying "serve this file" - the file has to be understood by the 323 first. 

For example... Take into consideration the 323 doesn't share via UPnP .AAC music files, but it does share .mp3 files.  Let's also assume someone tries to get smart and renames song.aac to song.mp3 in order to get around it. 

If the 323 didn't have built-in checking, and served up this file to your PS3 - it could cause unexpected things to happen including frustration and possibly corruption or undesired operation of the PS3 and possibly the 323 itself. 

The UPnP server in the 323 looks for known file types by extension first, then looks to see if the file is valid, then reads the artist, song title, genre, and other attributes, depending on the file it's presently scanning.  In other words it has to have logic or the 323 acts as a "non-intelligent" server and spit out whatever requested whether or not the data is valid/good/appropriate.  At least the way D-Link has it setup, there is an expectation and a stable product with a reasonable user experience.

Notwithstanding this level of management imposed within the 323 and the benefits to the less advanced user of the device, there is a community that understands the fundemental requirements, formats, codecs of the hardware they are running and would have no issue with ensuring complianc to specific frameworks for filetypes,,, Why not leave the option for the more advanced user?

Just a question
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Re: DNS-323 not indexing files correctly
« Reply #9 on: February 10, 2009, 10:26:40 AM »

Notwithstanding this level of management imposed within the 323 and the benefits to the less advanced user of the device, there is a community that understands the fundemental requirements, formats, codecs of the hardware they are running and would have no issue with ensuring complianc to specific frameworks for filetypes,,, Why not leave the option for the more advanced user?

Just a question

Agree with slyder. This applies to other area as well, eg. BT.
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ttmcmurry

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Re: DNS-323 not indexing files correctly
« Reply #10 on: February 12, 2009, 03:28:45 PM »

Why not leave the option for the more advanced user?

I'm totally there with you, don't get me wrong I'd love an advanced button for UPnP as well -- D-Link needs to add additional filetype support before it would be a practical feature to roll out.   Unfortunately we're "smarter" (I use that term lightly) than most "everyday users" out there.  D-Link won't invest time in a feature that .001% of their user base will use. 

If it's something you need now, then go and install TwonkyMedia server on your 323 and pay $40 for the license to get what you want and it will do exactly everything you asked for in your post.
« Last Edit: February 12, 2009, 03:31:51 PM by ttmcmurry »
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coxwain

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Re: DNS-323 not indexing files correctly
« Reply #11 on: February 12, 2009, 10:44:29 PM »

i don't understand why I have to reset the 323 to default and then manually refresh the server everytime I move a bunch of files around within the directories.

There should be a way to delete the index file and then refresh without doing the reset to default

this only hapens if I move files around,  if I create files it seems to find them ok.
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