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[Pyrophoric]

WNDR3700 will become my main router with DD-WRT loaded and instead of buying wireless adapter for the PC in my back bedroom I was going to use the DGL-4500 as an A/P, is this possible using wireless N 5Ghz?

So, the DGL-4500 would connect wirelessly to the WNDR3700 and provide internet/networking for the bedroom PC, which would be hardwired to the DGL, and also act as a wifi extender for our other wireless devices in that part of the house.

[FurryNutz]

I think you'd have to wire the 4500 to the 3700. I don't think it can connect with out having the LAN cable connected to one of the LAN ports. I've never tried it like this and not sure if this would work in this fashion. Would be interesting to find out. I'd be interested in learning how to use DD-WRT as I also have a 3700 sitting on the shelf for experimentation. Let me know if your interested in lending some assistance.

[Pyrophoric]

I don't actually have the 3700 yet, it's coming tomorrow. Hopefully it won't be a huge issue updating to DD-WRT.

That would suck having to hardwire it. I have a DGL-4500 and 4300 that will now be in the scrap bin if that's the case. Both of those routers have cause me nothing but problems, it's probably better to get an adapter anyways.

[FurryNutz]

Let us know if we can help on the 4500 and maybe the 4300. Most people on here have had good experience and luck with the 4500. Lets us know if we can help you get it going better for you.

[Pyrophoric]

Really, the only problem I have is that I have to reset the router everytime I want to host a dedicated COD server.

I run a dedicated server for me and my friends when we want to play, which isn't very often anymore. I would not leave the server up, just start it each time we wanted to play. Everytime I started the server, no one could see it until I rebooted the router and turn on DMZ. I could immediately turn off DMZ and the server would still be seen. If I turned off the server for an extended period of time though, the next time I wanted to run it I would have to reboot the router and throw it in DMZ again.

The problem has persisted over all firmware updates and unless I am mistaken the same problem happened on my DGL-4300. Regardless of what computer I tried to run the server from, the problem always manifested.

Also, I could not run a UT3 server, period. Googling around many people talked about needing a router with "Full Cone NAT" and there was even a list (old as it may have been) of routers that supported the feature. Bottom line, no amount of tinkering would allow me to run a server.

[Pyrophoric]

1.23NA is current loaded btw.

[FurryNutz]

Ok, seems like this really isn't a FW issue and more it could be a configuration issue in setting up the router and using gaming and possibly virtual server and special applications features of the router. I presume you have all of the port information and IP information for using a COD server? Maybe we can get Trikein on here to take a look with you and see if we can get the 4500 set up correctly for this operation. Trikein has a bit more of an understanding I think on using those features. I understanding extends to the Gaming and Gamefuel which you probably need to be using Gaming more than game fuel. Fuel prioritizes devices like game consoles connecting to services like XBL and PS. This is not to say that it wont help later one. I think we need to get your servicing PC configured correctly and the 4500 configured correctly to accept and maintain the connection so anytime you start the server, it's there with out having to reboot the router.

Just by chance, have you tried a different router or not used the 4500 and just connected the server pc to the internet directly? Shut down the service then restart and have your clients try to connect? I presume this probably wouldn't reproduce the issue however doing this might help narrow down some of the issue. Yes I feel that most of the issue lye with configuration at the 4500. Just hoping to help you figure out what needs to be done. I hope Trikein and other might be able to help in get this going for you.

Items we need to know, how everything is connected? Wired and anything wireless? Static IP or DHCP. What is your ISP service Cable or DSL? If DSL, you are aware that some dsl modems have an internal router built in this conflicts with adding another router like a 4500 or 3700 which causes NAT issues in the fact that the 4500 can not get proper translations across the dsl's router. I'm most cases I've had people have there ISP bridge the dsl modem to the 4500 router, in effect shutting off the DSL modems internal router so that the 4500 gets the actual IP address from the modem thats a public address and not a private address like 192.168. I have thought about putting the 4500 ip address on the DMZ of the DSL modem and this could work, however could still cause issues down the road so it's been easier to bridge the dsl modem and give the 4500 everything it needs and let it handle all the network traffic and use all the features it comes with. Just need to see what you have going on so we can figure this out. Let us know how you have things set and we'll go from there.

[vlj9r]

I don't actually have the 3700 yet, it's coming tomorrow. Hopefully it won't be a huge issue updating to DD-WRT.

That would suck having to hardwire it. I have a DGL-4500 and 4300 that will now be in the s**** bin if that's the case. Both of those routers have cause me nothing but problems, it's probably better to get an adapter anyways.

Have they worked out all the bugs with the DD-WRT implementation?  I heard horror stories.  Like killing your wireless and suboptimal transfer speeds.

jr

[FurryNutz]

I just loaded it yesterday and was doing some configurations today. Haven't had a chance to go online with it yet. Very nice UI. Lots of stuff that you can do. Wireless performance depends on the version of HW you have. Mines a could or could not work well HW.

[Trikein]

Hmm, well I am going to try it on my spare router. I question where they got those images from. Linksys were court ordered, D-link certainly wasn't.

[FurryNutz]

images 

[Trikein]

Yea, a unencrypted image of the firmware that can be used to backwards engineer a 3rd party firmware. I can't find the article but I read awhile ago that what made the 3rd party firmware scene blow up is some FCC court order Linksys to make the firmware image available to the public before they were approved by IEEE. I think its when Linksys was first putting out their first G router? Feel free to proove me wrong though. Just saying by memory

[FurryNutz]

Had no idea man. Interesting. Well, have to see how WRT does. Everyone says the wireless isn't quiet there yet. I wish everyone would get a good standard for wireless and get the range up and stable. Really all I care about.

[SkyOwl]

Back to original posters topic........

To set up the 4500 as an access point, you have to connect the 4500 wired to the primary router.

Made sure the DHCP range of the primary router does NOT include the lan ip address of the access point router. DHCP in the access point router should be disabled, and the lan cable from the primary router should be plugged into the 4 port switch (NOT the WAN port) on the access point router.

For example, my primary router has a lan ip of 192.168.0.1 with a DHCP range of 192.168.0.100 to 192.168.0.199 and the access point router has a lan ip of 192.168.0.52. Works great.

If connecting wirelessly is your only option, then you will have to set the 4500 up as a repeater, not an access point.  Not a good setup as your wireless performance through the repeater will be cut in half.