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bintactac

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Connection problem
« on: March 10, 2010, 05:43:06 AM »
I have my DNS-323 connected with a wireless router (Zyxel NBG460N). 2 PCs running vista were connected to the router through LAN cables. They are running and accessing the NAS without any problem.
I have a netbook and a HTPC, running win7, which are wirelessly connected to the router, they couldn't get access to the NAS, it was not even showing in 'my computer' or 'network', but it could be found in the LLTD map.
I can get to the admin page through IE, I can ping the ip. All the computers and NAS were under the same workgroup.
I've tried disconnecting the wired PC and used a USB wireless client instead, the vista PC can still get into the NAS without any problem...

Anyone has similar problem? It's the problem of win7 or the network setting issue?
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gunrunnerjohn

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Re: Connection problem
« Reply #1 on: March 10, 2010, 06:25:59 AM »
I can connect to the DNS-323 with a wired or wireless Windows 7 machine, so it's not universal.  I have three Windows 7 machines, some XP machines, and two Vista machines.  All have no issues connecting to the DNS-323 or the DNS-321 here.

I'd be checking firewalls on the netbook first...
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Wiggs

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Re: Connection problem
« Reply #2 on: March 10, 2010, 07:47:27 AM »
I agree with gunner... this sounds like a firewall problem.  Are you able to view shares of the 2 wired PCs from your netbook or HTPC?

Could it be a masterbrowser problem?

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bintactac

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Re: Connection problem
« Reply #3 on: March 11, 2010, 08:42:00 AM »
i can't connect even the firewall is off (i'm using eset smart securtiy for the 4 computers)...
I can connect to the vista PC through the wireless computers...

sorry but i don't know what 'masterbrowser problem' is...
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Re: Connection problem
« Reply #4 on: March 11, 2010, 09:13:43 AM »
If you can access the network fine from other PCs, it is not a masterbrowser problem. 

Can you FTP to the NAS from the wireless PCs and see the files? 
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bintactac

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Re: Connection problem
« Reply #5 on: March 12, 2010, 04:39:23 AM »
I found that actually i cannot netvigate to the vista computers through the windows 7 wireless computers but can access the other way round... the windows 7 computers cannot connect through LAN cables to reach the other wired PC or NAS neither...

I checked that the vista PCs are master computers... is that a masterbrowser problem as mentioned? how to solve it then?

Actually I can 'see' the NAS under the 'network' tab, but I just couldn't connect to it, I double-clicked the icon but only the setting page popped up(in vista the NAS appeared as a storage device as well as a computer)......
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gunrunnerjohn

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Re: Connection problem
« Reply #6 on: March 12, 2010, 05:11:48 AM »
If you'd post the results of running a netstat -n from a command prompt for EVERY computer, we can see if this is a master browser issue.
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Re: Connection problem
« Reply #7 on: March 12, 2010, 05:12:39 AM »
Sounds like a problem with your router setup. If wired systems can access the DNS323, but wireless systems can't, then it's a router issue. Doesn't sound to me like it has anything to do with a master browser/DNS issue at all.
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Re: Connection problem
« Reply #8 on: March 12, 2010, 05:41:59 AM »
I typed 'netstat -n' while I loaded the 'network' page...

Vista Wired PC1:
C:\>netstat -n

使用中連線

  通訊協定  本機位址          外部位址        狀態
  TCP    127.0.0.1:5357         127.0.0.1:58603        ESTABLISHED
  TCP    127.0.0.1:8118         127.0.0.1:55588        ESTABLISHED
  TCP    127.0.0.1:30606        127.0.0.1:54312        ESTABLISHED
  TCP    127.0.0.1:30606        127.0.0.1:58598        ESTABLISHED
  TCP    127.0.0.1:30606        127.0.0.1:58600        ESTABLISHED
  TCP    127.0.0.1:30606        127.0.0.1:58602        ESTABLISHED
  TCP    127.0.0.1:30606        127.0.0.1:58604        ESTABLISHED
  TCP    127.0.0.1:30606        127.0.0.1:58606        ESTABLISHED
  TCP    127.0.0.1:54312        127.0.0.1:30606        ESTABLISHED
  TCP    127.0.0.1:54316        127.0.0.1:54317        ESTABLISHED
  TCP    127.0.0.1:54317        127.0.0.1:54316        ESTABLISHED
  TCP    127.0.0.1:55588        127.0.0.1:8118         ESTABLISHED
  TCP    127.0.0.1:58598        127.0.0.1:30606        ESTABLISHED
  TCP    127.0.0.1:58600        127.0.0.1:30606        ESTABLISHED
  TCP    127.0.0.1:58602        127.0.0.1:30606        ESTABLISHED
  TCP    127.0.0.1:58603        127.0.0.1:5357         ESTABLISHED
  TCP    127.0.0.1:58604        127.0.0.1:30606        ESTABLISHED
  TCP    127.0.0.1:58606        127.0.0.1:30606        ESTABLISHED
  TCP    169.254.2.2:990        169.254.2.1:1490       ESTABLISHED
  TCP    169.254.2.2:990        169.254.2.1:1493       ESTABLISHED
  TCP    169.254.2.2:990        169.254.2.1:1494       ESTABLISHED
  TCP    169.254.2.2:990        169.254.2.1:1504       ESTABLISHED
  TCP    169.254.2.2:990        169.254.2.1:1518       ESTABLISHED
  TCP    169.254.2.2:999        169.254.2.1:1532       ESTABLISHED
  TCP    169.254.2.2:1004       169.254.2.1:1498       ESTABLISHED
  TCP    169.254.2.2:5678       169.254.2.1:1546       ESTABLISHED
  TCP    169.254.2.2:5678       169.254.2.1:1547       ESTABLISHED
  TCP    169.254.2.2:9035       169.254.2.1:1550       ESTABLISHED
  TCP    192.168.1.34:5357      192.168.1.3:49226      TIME_WAIT
  TCP    192.168.1.34:5357      192.168.1.41:53857     ESTABLISHED
  TCP    192.168.1.34:53865     192.168.1.33:445       ESTABLISHED
  TCP    192.168.1.34:54313     64.4.34.37:1863        ESTABLISHED
  TCP    192.168.1.34:54343     192.168.1.33:445       ESTABLISHED
  TCP    192.168.1.34:58599     192.168.1.41:2869      ESTABLISHED
  TCP    192.168.1.34:58601     192.168.1.3:5357       ESTABLISHED
  TCP    192.168.1.34:58605     192.168.1.5:5357       ESTABLISHED
  TCP    192.168.1.34:58607     192.168.1.41:5357      ESTABLISHED
  TCP    192.168.1.34:58610     192.168.1.41:139       TIME_WAIT
  TCP    192.168.1.34:58611     192.168.1.41:139       TIME_WAIT
  TCP    192.168.1.34:58612     192.168.1.41:139       ESTABLISHED
  TCP    192.168.1.34:58613     192.168.1.41:139       ESTABLISHED
  TCP    [::1]:2869             [::1]:58591            ESTABLISHED
  TCP    [::1]:30606            [::1]:58590            ESTABLISHED
  TCP    [::1]:30606            [::1]:58593            ESTABLISHED
  TCP    [::1]:58590            [::1]:30606            ESTABLISHED
  TCP    [::1]:58591            [::1]:2869             ESTABLISHED
  TCP    [::1]:58593            [::1]:30606            ESTABLISHED
  TCP    [fe80::1c6d:8bfa:86d4:f83f%46]:58596  [fe80::9db2:b829:e7aa:c622%46]:28
69  ESTABLISHED

C:\>

Vista Wired PC2:
C:\>netstat -n

使用中連線

  通訊協定  本機位址          外部位址        狀態
  TCP    127.0.0.1:2869         127.0.0.1:53845        ESTABLISHED
  TCP    127.0.0.1:5357         127.0.0.1:53865        ESTABLISHED
  TCP    127.0.0.1:8118         127.0.0.1:49159        ESTABLISHED
  TCP    127.0.0.1:30606        127.0.0.1:49199        ESTABLISHED
  TCP    127.0.0.1:30606        127.0.0.1:53840        FIN_WAIT_2
  TCP    127.0.0.1:30606        127.0.0.1:53842        ESTABLISHED
  TCP    127.0.0.1:30606        127.0.0.1:53844        ESTABLISHED
  TCP    127.0.0.1:30606        127.0.0.1:53856        ESTABLISHED
  TCP    127.0.0.1:30606        127.0.0.1:53864        ESTABLISHED
  TCP    127.0.0.1:49159        127.0.0.1:8118         ESTABLISHED
  TCP    127.0.0.1:49199        127.0.0.1:30606        ESTABLISHED
  TCP    127.0.0.1:49203        127.0.0.1:49204        ESTABLISHED
  TCP    127.0.0.1:49204        127.0.0.1:49203        ESTABLISHED
  TCP    127.0.0.1:53840        127.0.0.1:30606        CLOSE_WAIT
  TCP    127.0.0.1:53842        127.0.0.1:30606        ESTABLISHED
  TCP    127.0.0.1:53844        127.0.0.1:30606        ESTABLISHED
  TCP    127.0.0.1:53845        127.0.0.1:2869         ESTABLISHED
  TCP    127.0.0.1:53856        127.0.0.1:30606        ESTABLISHED
  TCP    127.0.0.1:53864        127.0.0.1:30606        ESTABLISHED
  TCP    127.0.0.1:53865        127.0.0.1:5357         ESTABLISHED
  TCP    192.168.1.41:139       192.168.1.34:58612     ESTABLISHED
  TCP    192.168.1.41:139       192.168.1.34:58613     ESTABLISHED
  TCP    192.168.1.41:2869      192.168.1.1:1763       CLOSE_WAIT
  TCP    192.168.1.41:2869      192.168.1.34:58599     ESTABLISHED
  TCP    192.168.1.41:5357      192.168.1.34:58607     ESTABLISHED
  TCP    192.168.1.41:49200     64.4.34.54:1863        ESTABLISHED
  TCP    192.168.1.41:53826     63.241.83.110:6112     ESTABLISHED
  TCP    192.168.1.41:53843     192.168.1.5:5357       ESTABLISHED
  TCP    192.168.1.41:53857     192.168.1.34:5357      ESTABLISHED
  TCP    192.168.1.41:53866     65.55.179.26:443       ESTABLISHED
  TCP    [::1]:30606            [::1]:53850            ESTABLISHED
  TCP    [::1]:30606            [::1]:53854            ESTABLISHED
  TCP    [::1]:30606            [::1]:53862            ESTABLISHED
  TCP    [::1]:53850            [::1]:30606            ESTABLISHED
  TCP    [::1]:53854            [::1]:30606            ESTABLISHED
  TCP    [::1]:53862            [::1]:30606            ESTABLISHED
  TCP    [fe80::740e:7db1:8a8c:e705%19]:2869  [fe80::9db2:b829:e7aa:c622%19]:492
21  ESTABLISHED
  TCP    [fe80::740e:7db1:8a8c:e705%19]:53851  [fe80::1c6d:8bfa:86d4:f83f%19]:28
69  SYN_SENT
  TCP    [fe80::740e:7db1:8a8c:e705%19]:53855  [fe80::9db2:b829:e7aa:c622%19]:53
57  ESTABLISHED
  TCP    [fe80::740e:7db1:8a8c:e705%19]:53863  [fe80::9db2:b829:e7aa:c622%19]:28
69  ESTABLISHED

C:\>

Windows 7 Wireless Netbook:
C:\>netstat -n

使用中連線

  協定   本機位址               外部位址               狀態
  TCP    127.0.0.1:2869         127.0.0.1:49210        ESTABLISHED
  TCP    127.0.0.1:5357         127.0.0.1:49217        TIME_WAIT
  TCP    127.0.0.1:49210        127.0.0.1:2869         ESTABLISHED
  TCP    192.168.1.3:2869       192.168.1.1:2005       TIME_WAIT
  TCP    192.168.1.3:49214      192.168.1.41:5357      TIME_WAIT
  TCP    192.168.1.3:49216      192.168.1.1:80         TIME_WAIT
  TCP    [fe80::9db2:b829:e7aa:c622%12]:49208  [fe80::1c6d:8bfa:86d4:f83f%12]:28
69  SYN_SENT
  TCP    [fe80::9db2:b829:e7aa:c622%12]:49209  [fe80::740e:7db1:8a8c:e705%12]:28
69  ESTABLISHED

C:\>

Windows 7 wireless HTPC:
C:\>netstat -n

使用中連線

  協定   本機位址               外部位址               狀態
  TCP    127.0.0.1:5357         127.0.0.1:49464        TIME_WAIT
  TCP    192.168.1.5:49435      219.76.10.58:80        ESTABLISHED
  TCP    192.168.1.5:49457      69.58.183.143:80       ESTABLISHED
  TCP    192.168.1.5:49458      192.168.1.34:2869      SYN_SENT
  TCP    192.168.1.5:49460      192.168.1.41:2869      ESTABLISHED
  TCP    [fe80::519c:ef82:f88e:3312%88]:49441  [fe80::9db2:b829:e7aa:c622%88]:28
69  ESTABLISHED
  TCP    [fe80::519c:ef82:f88e:3312%88]:49442  [fe80::740e:7db1:8a8c:e705%88]:28
69  ESTABLISHED
  TCP    [fe80::519c:ef82:f88e:3312%88]:49459  [fe80::9db2:b829:e7aa:c622%88]:28
69  ESTABLISHED

C:\>
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Re: Connection problem
« Reply #9 on: March 12, 2010, 06:19:26 AM »
Sorry, in my haste I asked for the wrong thing.

It's NBTSTAT -n that will give us the correct info.  :-[
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Re: Connection problem
« Reply #10 on: March 12, 2010, 07:42:00 AM »
OK... but my windows was a Chinese one...

"區域連線" = Local Area Network
"唯一" = Unique
"已登錄" = "Logged in" / "Registered"
"群組" = "Group"

Vista Wired PC 1
C:\>nbtstat -n

區域連線* 16:
節點 IP 位址: [0.0.0.0] 範圍識別碼: []

    快取中沒有名稱

區域連線 2:
節點 IP 位址: [0.0.0.0] 範圍識別碼: []

    快取中沒有名稱

區域連線:
節點 IP 位址: [192.168.1.34] 範圍識別碼: []

                NetBIOS 本機名稱表格

       名稱               類型         狀態
    ---------------------------------------------
    FUNG-PC        <00>  唯一        已登錄
    WORKGROUP      <00>  群組        已登錄
    WORKGROUP      <1E>  群組        已登錄
    FUNG-PC        <20>  唯一        已登錄

區域連線 7:
節點 IP 位址: [169.254.2.2] 範圍識別碼: []

                NetBIOS 本機名稱表格

       名稱               類型         狀態
    ---------------------------------------------
    FUNG-PC        <00>  唯一        已登錄
    WORKGROUP      <00>  群組        已登錄
    WORKGROUP      <1E>  群組        已登錄
    FUNG-PC        <20>  唯一        已登錄
    WORKGROUP      <1D>  唯一        已登錄
    ..__MSBROWSE__.<01>  群組        已登錄

C:\>

Vista Wired PC 2
C:\>nbtstat -n

區域連線* 7:
節點 IP 位址: [0.0.0.0] 範圍識別碼: []

    快取中沒有名稱

區域連線 2:
節點 IP 位址: [192.168.1.41] 範圍識別碼: []

                NetBIOS 本機名稱表格

       名稱               類型         狀態
    ---------------------------------------------
    LAICHICHOENG-PC<00>  唯一        已登錄
    WORKGROUP      <00>  群組        已登錄
    LAICHICHOENG-PC<20>  唯一        已登錄
    WORKGROUP      <1E>  群組        已登錄
    WORKGROUP      <1D>  唯一        已登錄
    ..__MSBROWSE__.<01>  群組        已登錄

C:\>

Windows 7 Wireless Netbook
C:\>nbtstat -n

區域連線:
節點 IP 位址: [0.0.0.0] 範圍識別碼: []

    快取中沒有名稱

區域連線 3:
節點 IP 位址: [0.0.0.0] 範圍識別碼: []

    快取中沒有名稱

無線網路連線:
節點 IP 位址: [192.168.1.3] 範圍識別碼: []

                NetBIOS 本機名稱表格

       名稱               類型         狀態
    ---------------------------------------------
    CHANHIUFUNG-NB <00>  唯一        已登錄
    WORKGROUP      <00>  群組        已登錄
    CHANHIUFUNG-NB <20>  唯一        已登錄
    WORKGROUP      <1E>  群組        已登錄

無線網路連線 2:
節點 IP 位址: [0.0.0.0] 範圍識別碼: []

    快取中沒有名稱

C:\>

Windows 7 Wireless HTPC
C:\>nbtstat -n

區域連線 2:
節點 IP 位址: [0.0.0.0] 範圍識別碼: []

    快取中沒有名稱

無線網路連線 2:
節點 IP 位址: [192.168.1.5] 範圍識別碼: []

                NetBIOS 本機名稱表格

       名稱               類型         狀態
    ---------------------------------------------
    CHANHIUFUNG-LR <00>  唯一        已登錄
    WORKGROUP      <00>  群組        已登錄
    CHANHIUFUNG-LR <20>  唯一        已登錄
    WORKGROUP      <1E>  群組        已登錄

C:\>
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gunrunnerjohn

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Re: Connection problem
« Reply #11 on: March 12, 2010, 10:39:47 AM »
Well, that's pretty useless, at least to me. :)
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Re: Connection problem
« Reply #12 on: March 13, 2010, 06:33:42 AM »
@bintactac:

Try this:
1. Make sure all PCs and devices are set to the same WorkGroup... Also some MediaCenters and routers can also have a Workgroup set.... if they can.. make sure its set to the same as the rest of the PCs

2. turn off all network devices and PCs

3. turn them back on, 1 at a time... start with the router(s)... wait until they are completly booted before booting up an other device.

4. Instead of going from computer to computer... and If you know the IP addresses of the devices... run the following command from 1 of the computers...
nbtstat -A IPAddressOfDevice     ... ie: nbtstat -A 192.168.1.1  (the A must be UPPERCASE)
Run This for EACH device in your network... including Router and the DNS-323

Look for the "Node IPAddress" that starts with 192.168.1.xxx
Between all of your devices only 1 should have a "MSBROWSE" entry
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Re: Connection problem
« Reply #13 on: March 13, 2010, 06:38:29 AM »
Quote from: bintactac on March 12, 2010, 04:39:23 AM
I found that actually i cannot netvigate to the vista computers through the windows 7 wireless computers but can access the other way round... the windows 7 computers cannot connect through LAN cables to reach the other wired PC or NAS neither...

This could be because Vista or 7 does not have "Unpassworded" shares...

I also noticed that if a PC Windows User is not listed in the Users of the DNS-323, it will not appear under "Network" in Windows 7... but you can still access it using its IP address... like  \\193.168.1.30

Also some wireless routers have an option to "isolate" Wireless computers.... making it so that no Wireless connected device can see and other device in the network... they usualy callit "AP Isolation" or something like that...

Make sure its not activated in your router...

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