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Maverick494

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Re: DGL-4500 poor ping
« Reply #15 on: August 29, 2010, 08:44:47 AM »

what environmental effects do you think there are? I am sitting 7 feet from the router, the only other transmitting devices in the room are my bluetooth mouse and the WiMax modem.  Thats it.  Pretty hard for there to be an environmental factor.  Are you telling me that my bluetooth mouse is causing these issues because it is on the same band.  That would be pretty much impossible, and I can test it by turning it off.  the WiMax modem is on the 2.5 Ghz band and should provide no interference for a band that is 100+ MHZ lower.
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Trikein

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Re: DGL-4500 poor ping
« Reply #16 on: August 29, 2010, 03:28:31 PM »

What I am saying is something is causing latency in the wireless connection right? Its unlikly to be hardware since many many others have been able to game on the wireless with little or no problem. So that leaves configuration and surrounding (enviromental, what ever you want to call it) effects. Configuration envolves alot of trial and error. Enviromental is more straight forward, you keep the exsisting configuration and hardware, and you change the environment and see if the problem continues. When trouble shooting a unknown like this, you have to be methodical, since this is most likly not going to be a basic answer. If we make assumptions on the cause were probably not going to find a answer. Yes, it could be the mouse or the modem, or some cell phone tower, or someones CB radio near by, or heck, space rays from mars, I don't know. All unlikly yes, but if the problem was likly, you would have most likly found a solution by now. :-)
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Re: DGL-4500 poor ping
« Reply #17 on: August 29, 2010, 05:15:16 PM »


     Holy **** Tricky there are some young people (such as me) don't go scaring me with some crazy things such as space rays from mars. Omg How can I block these space rays from mars? The things you can't see are the things that will kill you!
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Trikein

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Re: DGL-4500 poor ping
« Reply #18 on: August 29, 2010, 05:26:58 PM »

LOL. Theres no space rays. I was making a point that so many different things can effect wireless issues. Think of wireless being like sound. You have the pitch and the loudness. Your talking to your friend in a busy cafteria. Not only do people close to you drown out his voice, but people far away. Also people voices can sound lower or higher depending on where they are. How the sound waves bounce around, how loud there talking, the sound of people walking, and so on. Stop a moment and listen right now..notice how much noise is there that you didn't even notice? (Most likly anyway) And you can HEAR sound, you can't hear or see wireless interference. Most routers and adapters are pretty good at cutting through the interference, and sometimes there isn't alot of interference, but the point is it is really complicated.

Overall do I think think its a enviroment effect? Im split about 70/30 for enviromental. But even if its enviromental, you can still adapt the configuration of the wireless to overcome. But thats how I troubleshoot, I cut to the core of the issue, and try to rule out big chunks of possibilities before narrowing down on the specifics.
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Re: DGL-4500 poor ping
« Reply #19 on: August 29, 2010, 06:45:06 PM »

 Yea tricky I was just being fooling around. But yea the environment in were you place your router can make a toll on the routers wireless performance. But many people will get mad and disagree with you because that is not what they want to hear. There should be others solution? Oh keep up the good work guys.

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Trikein

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Re: DGL-4500 poor ping
« Reply #20 on: August 29, 2010, 07:09:09 PM »

Well he has a right to be skeptical. Most likly his previous wireless routers didn't have such issues. So it is likly how the router is handling those enviromental effects, but before we can work around them, we have to know what they are, and before we look for what they are, it helps to know for sure there ARE enviromental effects so were not wasting our time. Make sense?
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Maverick494

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Re: DGL-4500 poor ping
« Reply #21 on: August 30, 2010, 12:17:06 AM »

Environmental had nothing to do with it.  I was right it was a hardware issue.  Luckily it was not a hardware issue with the router.  Since I only ever had my laptop to test with until my wife finally let me try hers I couldn't compare another wireless connection.  Her wireless connection to the router seemed to work fine.  I was at a loss to explain that.  So I was pretty ticked at that point and I formatted my laptop as mentioned.  For the last 24 hours the connection speed has been acceptable and the ping (latency) has been much better.  I am using the driver that came with the laptop for my Intel 6300N, 13.0.0.107 is the version number.  Intel is up to 13.1.5 or something like that now.  Usually that means there have been a lot of improvements, in this case it completely destroys the ping for some reason.  I don't know what intel did or what Sager did that makes upgrading the driver disastrous, but I will keep using this stock driver until the cows come home if it keeps my latency the way it is now.

I still don't like the amount of errors and dropped packets from the wireless connection, but if it ain't broke I am not going to try and figure out what it is doing that.  I also still get that strange 90+ ms ping on the hop from router to WiMax modem from time to time, but I suppose that will work itself out in the long run.


C:\Windows\system32>tracert -d www.yahoo.com

Tracing route to any-fp.wa1.b.yahoo.com [72.30.2.43
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1     1 ms     4 ms    94 ms  192.168.15.1
  2     *        *        *     Request timed out.
  3    91 ms    94 ms    88 ms  10.41.164.197
  4    86 ms   108 ms   134 ms  64.13.115.205
  5    97 ms   103 ms   109 ms  206.81.80.98
  6    87 ms   129 ms   143 ms  216.115.110.42
  7    93 ms   109 ms   110 ms  216.115.106.157
  8    84 ms   129 ms    98 ms  68.180.160.9
  9   122 ms   102 ms   103 ms  72.30.2.43

Trace complete.

all in all much better.  still a bit higher than I am used to from a wired broadband service, but pretty good considering it is 4G.
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JL6speed

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Re: DGL-4500 poor ping
« Reply #22 on: August 30, 2010, 10:17:42 AM »

I have the exact same issue with mine. I'm still not sure what is causing it. Wireless works fine for a few days then after a couple days of leaving the comp on.. it starts having increased latency when the wireless connection is under minimal load.

I can usually resolve this by disabling and re enabling my 5100 AGN but it's still a hassle to have to "fix" this every few days. My old DGL-4300 never had issues like this in the exact same house and placed at the exact same spot.
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Trikein

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Re: DGL-4500 poor ping
« Reply #23 on: September 02, 2010, 02:36:04 AM »

Glad you figured it out. My only reason I was pushing environment is well..I am hundred of miles away trying to troubleshoot a issue by proxy. You have the advantage of knowing what the house looks like, knowing your hardware, the history and the depth of the symptoms, and so on. When troubleshooting a issue that complex its all about isolating the symptom, then eliminating certain conditions until the underlying problem is dissolved, the symptoms go away, and then you can back trace what the original cause was.

Also, you never proved environmental factors had nothing to do with it, since different hardware can have different antenna's, drivers, and configurations which can make them immune to such things. Its a moot point now though.
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Re: DGL-4500 poor ping
« Reply #24 on: June 07, 2011, 02:54:17 AM »

guys i am not related   to this model of d-link but i have also the same problem of ping. ihave d-link modem and model no. is DSL-502T and i play gore an online shooting game. my ping was 160 in it but now it has suddenly increased to 500 to 600 for last 4 days and when i call the ISP the guy who was on the phone said he dont know more about the ping . I live in India .can u help me in getting back my ping to 160 plz send me a private mail plz because i am new on this forum or mail me at rishabhrocksking58@yahoo.com
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Re: DGL-4500 poor ping
« Reply #25 on: June 07, 2011, 10:40:24 PM »

Sorry, your reply is off topic. Latency to the gateway is COMPLETLY different then latency to a game server. We would need alot more info. At the very least start your own topic. Thanks
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