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Author Topic: DNS 323 firmware 1.05 with jumbo frames enabled  (Read 11737 times)

skypx

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DNS 323 firmware 1.05 with jumbo frames enabled
« on: May 12, 2008, 09:09:03 PM »

Firmware 1.05b has been posted on the German forums. Finally supports jumbo frames! I normally get 13-17 MB/sec transfering files.  ;D

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skypx

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Re: DNS 323 firmware 1.05 with jumbo frames enabled
« Reply #1 on: May 12, 2008, 09:13:30 PM »

If it's ok with the mods I'll post a rapidshare link.
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bspvette86

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Re: DNS 323 firmware 1.05 with jumbo frames enabled
« Reply #2 on: May 13, 2008, 10:57:39 AM »

If it's ok with the mods I'll post a rapidshare link.

Would be best to just let them post it on the US support site when they are ready to release it here.

Regards,
Karl
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ECF

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Re: DNS 323 firmware 1.05 with jumbo frames enabled
« Reply #3 on: May 13, 2008, 11:40:22 AM »

Please wait for the release of the DNS-323 1.05 US firmware release.
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Re: DNS 323 firmware 1.05 with jumbo frames enabled
« Reply #4 on: May 13, 2008, 03:26:00 PM »

Firmware 1.05 is now available on the D-Link support website.

http://www.support.dlink.com/products/view.asp?productid=DNS%2D323

Release notes:

¤ Add BitTorrent Support.
¤ Add LLTD Support.
¤ Add Jumbo Frame Support up to 9000.
¤ Add option to re-configure the Hard Drive configuration as RAID 1 when installing the 2nd new Hard Disk.
¤ Add Korean and Turkish codepage support in the FTP client language settings.
¤ Add .info domain support for email alerts.
¤ Fixed Hard Disk formatting on certain drives.
¤ Fixed Print Server support.
¤ Fixed iTunes support for large music libraries.
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FastM

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Re: DNS 323 firmware 1.05 with jumbo frames enabled
« Reply #5 on: May 20, 2008, 07:39:04 PM »

to enable jumbo frames i guess i need to re-format the drives?
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fordem

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Re: DNS 323 firmware 1.05 with jumbo frames enabled
« Reply #6 on: May 20, 2008, 08:05:37 PM »

No - why would you think that?

Jumbo frame is in not related to how data is stored but rather to the size of the ethernet "frames" transmitted over the network cable.  You can enable/disable in the LAN setup page of the web admin.

For you to see the benefit of jumbo frame you'll need to be running a gigabit network which supports jumbo frame.
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FastM

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Re: DNS 323 firmware 1.05 with jumbo frames enabled
« Reply #7 on: May 20, 2008, 08:48:29 PM »

lol, i guess i got confused with block sizes when formating RAID array's.

Also, i guess i didn't look hard enough because i didn't find the option at first.

So, what are the pros/cons of setting it to 9000?

I mainly use mine to host/stream HD movies (between 4 and 12gig each)

My DNS-323 is connected to a gigabit switch and my Dell laptop also has a Gigabit port. My brother's and dad's PC's dont have Gigabit. Would going to the 9000 setting affect them?
« Last Edit: May 20, 2008, 08:53:04 PM by FastM »
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fordem

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Re: DNS 323 firmware 1.05 with jumbo frames enabled
« Reply #8 on: May 21, 2008, 10:59:37 AM »

The advantage of jumbo frame is perhaps two fold - increased network throughput and reduced CPU utilization - although that might be an "either/or" scenario - as in you can have either increased network throughput or reduced CPU unitlization for the same network throughput, but not both, and this may differ from one scenario to the next.

Although you should see an increase in file transfer speeds with 4~12 GB files, I don't know that it will translate to any performance improvement when streaming video - I would guess that as long as the network bandwidth is adequate to display the movie, there will be no perceived change - but streaming media is not my thing, so that is just a guess.

What are the pro/cons of setting it to 9000?  There is really only one way to find out - try it and see - jumbo frame although not new technology is still quite controversial and there are no defined standards - one manufacturers' 9000 bit frame is anothers' 9014 bit frame, and so on.

I mentioned earlier that you need to have a gigabit network that supports jumbo frame so you should have recognized that's not just any gigabit network - does your gigabit switch support jumbo frame?  Does your Dell laptop support jumbo frame?  I kind of suspect not (especially the laptop).

Let's assume that both the switch & the laptop support jumbo farme - you still have to verify what frame sizes they support and you'll still need to test with the varying frame sizes - I have heard of instances where a 4000 bit frame gave better perfomance than a 9000 bit frame.

How would the other PCs be affected - that is another controversial area - some folks will tell you that every device needs to support jumbo frame, and some will disagree - based on my experience, they should continue to work fine.  What I will say on the subject is this - for jumbo frame to work, the entire network path between the two endpoints will need to support the frame size you intend to use.
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linky

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Re: DNS 323 firmware 1.05 with jumbo frames enabled
« Reply #9 on: May 29, 2008, 10:51:49 AM »

The driver of my network card has 9014 (Marvell).
On the 323 we can set only 9000.
After enabling it on the NAS and on the NIC, I can't browse anything on the NAS unless I disable jumbo frames on the NIC.
Can you please add 9014 on the next firmware?
Is there any other way for me to change it to 9014 on the NAS? Another NIC on my office system also had 9014 as jumbo frame option.

Thanks!
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fordem

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Re: DNS 323 firmware 1.05 with jumbo frames enabled
« Reply #10 on: May 29, 2008, 10:59:51 AM »

There is a strong probability that even if you could set the DNS-323 to 9014, it wouldn't solve your problem - which is more likely to be your network switch not supporting jumbo frame, or jumbo frame of that size.

Try connecting the DNS-323 directly to the computer - you may need to set static ip addresses for this test - does it work now?  If the answer is yes, then the problem is the switch.
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linky

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Re: DNS 323 firmware 1.05 with jumbo frames enabled
« Reply #11 on: May 30, 2008, 05:55:40 AM »

My GB switch supports jumbo frames up to 9k.
When jumbo frames are activated 4k and 9k (9014) on the NIC, I can browse the internet; the only thing that's not working is accessing the NAS.
I'm pretty sure it's due to the values of the frames being different on the NAS and on the NIC.

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fordem

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Re: DNS 323 firmware 1.05 with jumbo frames enabled
« Reply #12 on: May 30, 2008, 07:33:25 AM »

Here's the thing about jumbo frame - it's not a standard - and the difference between a 9000 byte frame and a 9014 byte frame is how the manufacturer counts it and whether or not they include the framing bits, they are actually equivalent.

What I will say is this - I HAVE run jumbo frame on the DNS-323 with the frame size set at 9000 bits to an Intel gigabit card with the frame size set at 9014 bits, and I KNOW that it works, so your problem is pretty much either the gigabit implementation in the switch or the Marvell NIC.

Now - how long would it take you to run a cable from one device to the other - and actually test it - I mean you can sit & theorize and wait in the hope that D-Link fixes the problem that you think exists (and you may note that I don't agree) or you can spend 10~15 minutes and either prove me wrong or right.

BTW - being able to browse the internet with the NIC set for 4K or 9K jumbo frame bears no relevance to this discussion - in fact, your making that statement suggests that you're not really clear on what jumbo frame is or how it works.
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