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John

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655 boot up
« on: December 04, 2008, 04:15:20 PM »

Here is what I had set up with my DI-624: I had a power strip (actually a cheap surge suppresser) with the DSL modem and the 624 both plugged in.  I would usually turn on the computer power and then the switch for the modem and router.  By the time the computer was ready to use the router was ready to use and got out ok. Now, same set up except using the DIR-655.  When the computer is ready I click my browser but it can not get out.  What I have found out is I need to unplug the router (I wait about 30 seconds) and plug back in.  I usually need to wait at least a minute (usually more) then I am able to get on line. So, does this mean the router will not function when booted up in tandem with the modem? Does this mean it needs to boot up after the modem is up? And what about the computer, should that be powerd up before the router is turned on? Is this all due to the F/W which needs more time and needs to boot by itself?
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EddieZ

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Re: 655 boot up
« Reply #1 on: December 04, 2008, 04:22:27 PM »

Normally, no. But refreshing connections on either modem, router or PC is not an A-B-C.
Maybe the 655 takes longer to boot up? How did you configure the WAN connection: static IP, DHCP etc?

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funchords

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Re: 655 boot up
« Reply #2 on: December 04, 2008, 06:51:07 PM »

You'll cut down on start-up time if you go to Advanced QOS Engine and set the uplink test from Automatic to Manual and setting the right manual value (usually displayed there from the last test).
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John

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Re: 655 boot up
« Reply #3 on: December 04, 2008, 10:31:46 PM »

Normally, no. But refreshing connections on either modem, router or PC is not an A-B-C.
Maybe the 655 takes longer to boot up? How did you configure the WAN connection: static IP, DHCP etc?


Dynmic IP and DHCP. Yes, the 655 take longer to boot up, much longer then my old DI-624!
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John

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Re: 655 boot up
« Reply #4 on: December 04, 2008, 10:35:40 PM »

You'll cut down on start-up time if you go to Advanced QOS Engine and set the uplink test from Automatic to Manual and setting the right manual value (usually displayed there from the last test).

Ok, I went Qos and changed it to manual.  Did not realize you could even do that. Anyway I'll see how it responds on boot up and then loading the browser.  Is that the only tool that might help speed up the boot process?
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Lycan

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Re: 655 boot up
« Reply #5 on: December 05, 2008, 08:25:58 AM »

You shouldn't be disconnecting the power from the modem or the router, constantly turning them off and on can ruin the power supplies, those devices are designed to be left on.

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John

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Re: 655 boot up
« Reply #6 on: December 05, 2008, 03:40:23 PM »

Actually I usually do leave the power up and running once I have my PC's on but in this case rebooting the 655 was the only way to make it function. I was going to buy a seperate power switch for the router so I could turn it on after the modem was booted. My outlook has changed. I wanted to see if I was dreaming. I hooked up my DI-624 and everything worked without one little problem. No delays, both PC's able to get online without problems. So I decided to take back the 655. I will wait another 6 months or a year. Comments about the router (not related to it's operation): I noticed a difference between the cable ports on the 655 vs 624. Cable connection on the 655 was a little sloppy and tight on the 624 (better construction?). the 655 was plastic, the 624 metal.I realize products are made a little cheaper to cut costs now days and that's a shame. I will keep my eye on this forum and if things settle down I may re-buy a 655 down the road.         John
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funchords

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Re: 655 boot up
« Reply #7 on: December 05, 2008, 09:43:45 PM »

Ok, I went Qos and changed it to manual.  Did not realize you could even do that. Anyway I'll see how it responds on boot up and then loading the browser.  Is that the only tool that might help speed up the boot process?
You can turn off the time-fetching, you can also ask your ISP for a static IP assignment -- either of these will save a tiny bit of time, but the uplink speed test is by far the most time-consuming part of start-up. 
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Re: 655 boot up
« Reply #8 on: December 08, 2008, 04:43:30 PM »

Here is what I had set up with my DI-624: I had a power strip (actually a cheap surge suppresser) with the DSL modem and the 624 both plugged in.  I would usually turn on the computer power and then the switch for the modem and router.  By the time the computer was ready to use the router was ready to use and got out ok. Now, same set up except using the DIR-655.  When the computer is ready I click my browser but it can not get out.  What I have found out is I need to unplug the router (I wait about 30 seconds) and plug back in.  I usually need to wait at least a minute (usually more) then I am able to get on line. So, does this mean the router will not function when booted up in tandem with the modem? Does this mean it needs to boot up after the modem is up? And what about the computer, should that be powerd up before the router is turned on? Is this all due to the F/W which needs more time and needs to boot by itself?

I running a similar set up and I also upgraded from a DI 624 to a DIR 655 and I not encountering that issue.  I usually power up the router first, then power up then my pc.   As I said, so far and no noticable delays.
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funchords

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Re: 655 boot up
« Reply #9 on: December 08, 2008, 09:13:33 PM »

I running a similar set up and I also upgraded from a DI 624 to a DIR 655 and I not encountering that issue.  I usually power up the router first, then power up then my pc.   As I said, so far and no noticable delays.
hahaha -- you're creating the delay by powering up in that order -- plus the PC boot-up time/sequence probably makes a difference. 

It's weird to me that these don't autonegotiate.  For most business, if the power goes down and back up, the network has to come back without manual intervention.
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Re: 655 boot up
« Reply #10 on: December 09, 2008, 05:54:52 AM »

You shouldn't be disconnecting the power from the modem or the router, constantly turning them off and on can ruin the power supplies, those devices are designed to be left on.



Hi Lycan,

What about during a Thunderstorm, should not you turn off the Router to protect it?

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Re: 655 boot up
« Reply #11 on: December 09, 2008, 11:39:38 AM »

Read closely what Lycan says...
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You shouldn't be disconnecting the power from the modem or the router, constantly turning them off and on can ruin the power supplies (...)
Unless you live in an area with continuous thunderstorms ofcourse...

In case of a thunderstorm you need to unplug your device. When lightning really strikes it can potentially fry a PC/modem/router. You can also buy a powersurge protector.
« Last Edit: December 09, 2008, 11:43:17 AM by EddieZ »
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Lycan

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Re: 655 boot up
« Reply #12 on: December 09, 2008, 11:52:20 AM »

Get a UPS with a GOOD ground and make sure the socket it's connected to is grounded to the water pipes int he wall and you'll be fine. If the static gets bad from the thunder take the antennas off.

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John

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Re: 655 boot up
« Reply #13 on: December 09, 2008, 08:32:04 PM »

As I said I was not a happy camper. I did take back the 655. I am currently testing the new Belkin N+(F5D8235-4). If this does not meet my conditions it will go back as well. So far this thing runs like my old DI-624 did. No problems getting online with any of my computers. Also boots up at the same time as my modem and works. I still believe the F/W is part of the problem in the 655. If another compamy can do it D-Link should be able to do it. Of course I will give this Belkin more time to make sure it is stable. If Belkin does not work out I may be back.
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Lycan

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Re: 655 boot up
« Reply #14 on: December 10, 2008, 09:18:10 AM »

John,
Comparing one router to another is not a good way to evaluate ANYTHING.
Is your problem the fact that the unit takes time to boot?
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