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Author Topic: Need help with DHCP and two DIR-655!  (Read 10949 times)

ps3pwns

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Need help with DHCP and two DIR-655!
« on: December 04, 2008, 05:54:36 PM »

Got a home network i want to set up using two d link dir 655s.  I would like to use DHCP but its not a huge deal if I can't get it working properly.  Thing is I want to have the same SSID all throughout for both routers.  One router is behind the other. i have the first router hooked up to one desktop (MY office)and getting internet from the cable modem,  second one has two desktops and a ps3 and I want to get a laptop working(this is obviously the family room). We only happen to have two cable connections in our house one for the Big TV and my office.  My office however has a gigabit ethernet connection going to the family room so the family room router is hooked up from one of its lan port not the internet port, to one of my free lan ports. I just want to make sure everything is secure and protected.  Is it possible to have one router being served as a DHCP client (the family room router) from another (office router)??  I am not sure and not the best at networking....Any help would be greatly appreciated.   Thank you!
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davevt31

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Re: Need help with DHCP and two DIR-655!
« Reply #1 on: December 04, 2008, 06:00:27 PM »

I think it would be easier to setup with just 1 DIR-655 and an access point in the other room. You could probably also just do it with a switch in the other room and any wireless would get the signal from the router.

Hook the switch uplink in the family room to the connection running to the office and plug this into one of the LAN ports on the Router.  Then you only have 1 SSID to worry about and can run DHCP off the router.
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twk3

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Re: Need help with DHCP and two DIR-655!
« Reply #2 on: December 04, 2008, 06:30:29 PM »

dave is correct, it would be more ideal for you to replace the second router with an access point or switch (depending on whether your office wireless reaches the family room)

But if you were to do it. Set them to the same SSID, set one's channel to 1, the other to 11. This way they won't interfere with each other.

On your router in the living room, turn off DHCP. You might have to mess around with other settings as well. Really, a 'router' isn't ideal for this.
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funchords

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Re: Need help with DHCP and two DIR-655!
« Reply #3 on: December 04, 2008, 06:40:01 PM »

Got a home network i want to set up using two d link dir 655s.  I would like to use DHCP but its not a huge deal if I can't get it working properly.  Thing is I want to have the same SSID all throughout for both routers.  One router is behind the other. i have the first router hooked up to one desktop (MY office)and getting internet from the cable modem,  second one has two desktops and a ps3 and I want to get a laptop working(this is obviously the family room). We only happen to have two cable connections in our house one for the Big TV and my office.  My office however has a gigabit ethernet connection going to the family room so the family room router is hooked up from one of its lan port not the internet port, to one of my free lan ports. I just want to make sure everything is secure and protected.  Is it possible to have one router being served as a DHCP client (the family room router) from another (office router)??  I am not sure and not the best at networking....Any help would be greatly appreciated.   Thank you!
No problem.  You've got a good handle on this

For the "secondary" router with the empty WAN port,
1.  give it a new different IP address within the LAN that will be managed by the "main" device,
2.  disable UPNP, 
3.  you may also want to disable Time sync and logging (there's not much to log). 
4.  Give it the same SSID and exactly the same security as the "main" device.
5.  disable DHCP and remove power
6.  Connect LAN port to LAN port with the main device and restore power.

The main device will manage everything.  You don't need to configure any port openings or anything like that on the secondary router.  You pretty much can ignore it from here.  Your wireless devices will associate with the closest AP but the "main" router will handle all the DHCP and firewall/routing to the Internet.
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ps3pwns

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Re: Need help with DHCP and two DIR-655!
« Reply #4 on: December 04, 2008, 08:39:10 PM »

Wow thank you everybody for the quick responses...I didn't think i would get so many.  I have been told that an access point would be better suited and that a router isn't ideal but i was misled by the best buy agent that it would work just as well.. :( Unfortunately i am past the return period so i am stuck.  And no, the primary router(office) wireless signal does not reach.  I was going to try and buy a repeater, but could not find an ideal place for it. In response to funchords... I don't think i can disable upnp because i think our ps3 needs/uses it?!?!  not sure...Also, when you mean disable DHCP, you mean for the secondary (living room) router, i Should give the router a different ip adress within the lan?  Does that mean i can still have DHCP on the primary router which will give the secondary router its IP address.  Does it matter if i reserve the secondary a DHCP reservation or no??  and should all the other devices, such as the ps3 and other desktops in the family room be given a DHCP on the primary router( i would assume no, because you said to disable DHCP on the secondary router).  Thanks again everybody for the help and quick responses...I'll be visiting this forum more often. ;)
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twk3

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Re: Need help with DHCP and two DIR-655!
« Reply #5 on: December 04, 2008, 09:19:09 PM »

Try to do what funchords suggested, the idea is that the router will basically become an AP, the rest of your devices will use it to connect to the main one, basically. All your IPs will be assigned from that one.
« Last Edit: December 05, 2008, 10:39:52 AM by twk3 »
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Lycan

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Re: Need help with DHCP and two DIR-655!
« Reply #6 on: December 05, 2008, 09:02:07 AM »

Instead of using a second 655, use a DAP-1522.
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funchords

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Re: Need help with DHCP and two DIR-655!
« Reply #7 on: December 08, 2008, 08:42:07 PM »

In response to funchords... I don't think i can disable upnp because i think our ps3 needs/uses it?!?!  not sure...
You MUST disable it on the secondary router.  You MAY enable it on the primary router and if you do, it will handle devices attached to both routers.
Also, when you mean disable DHCP, you mean for the secondary (living room) router,
right.
i Should give the router a different ip adress within the lan?
Yes.
  Does that mean i can still have DHCP on the primary router which will give the secondary router its IP address.
No. We're talking about changing the secondary router from 192.168.0.1 to something else (such as 192.168.0.2).  We're not talking about the WAN port (which can be a DHCP client, but only for a different subnet -- we're going to leave the WAN port empty on the secondary router so that's not what you want.
  Does it matter if i reserve the secondary a DHCP reservation or no?? 
As long as you set it to an address that is outside the DHCP range of the primary router, then it won't matter.  Setting it to something that is in range is an option, but then you would want to reserve the address -- not because the secondary router will ever use it (it won't, since it is not a DHCP client itself), but to keep the primary router from assigning that address to some other device).
and should all the other devices, such as the ps3 and other desktops in the family room be given a DHCP on the primary router( i would assume no, because you said to disable DHCP on the secondary router). 
The DHCP server on the primary router will assign addresses to all DHCP-capable clients on both routers.  These days, that's pretty much everything -- with the exception of the secondary router, a LAN-side DHCP client capability wasn't built in because it's usually a DHCP server and it would be redundant.
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RussellM

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Re: Need help with DHCP and two DIR-655!
« Reply #8 on: December 11, 2008, 02:03:59 PM »

Instead of using a second 655, use a DAP-1522.

I will second this.
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orion7144

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Re: Need help with DHCP and two DIR-655!
« Reply #9 on: December 12, 2008, 04:15:51 PM »

I run  my 655 this way ever since I got the 4500 as my main router.  As long as you do what was reviously posted then there are no issues.
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wib

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Re: Need help with DHCP and two DIR-655!
« Reply #10 on: January 01, 2009, 10:21:17 PM »

I use my 655 as my main router and have a 625? (or 35 or 15) as the second. I have both hooked into independant internet connections. Router 655 runs all the dhcp with the 20 devices. The second router allows my wife to wired connect in her office as her vpn software is not so robust at times. LAN to lan is the only connection between the two. Different SSID for the access points though.
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