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Author Topic: Advanced networking - routing feature, what's the point?  (Read 6999 times)

tomkinsong

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Advanced networking - routing feature, what's the point?
« on: December 11, 2008, 09:28:47 PM »

I've picked up a DIR-825 today to replace on older D-Link router.  I expected to be able to route traffic to different subnets of my network which are behind the LAN interface.  When I looked at the options and saw the drop down with "WAN" displayed, I assumed I could select LAN or WAN.  Evidently that's not the case, you can only select WAN.

It begs the question why is the option even there if it provides a single choice and more importantly, how on earth is this feature even remotely useful?  Someone give me an example because I just don't see it sonehow.

I love everything else about the router but this was one of my main decision points to buy.  I know the more expensive gaming model can do it so why not this one - or others for that matter.
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funchords

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Re: Advanced networking - routing feature, what's the point?
« Reply #1 on: December 12, 2008, 01:37:28 PM »

I totally agree.  Beats me what it's good for anymore.

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1.  Look at the page source to the Advanced - Routing page, you will find that the LAN selection is commented out.  If you use a browser or extension that allows you to modify the page in place (I think the Web Developer ext. for Firefox does), you might be able to remove the comments.  I've honestly never tried it, but I've thought about it.

2.  As for usefulness, you might be able to "null" route.  Of course, you could do that at your own LAN machines, too.  But if your ISP keeps giving you a bogus DNS server in the two it gives in its assignments, for example, maybe you could null-route the bad one.  I'm really stretching to find a use.  They might as well hide the whole page.
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Brian

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Re: Advanced networking - routing feature, what's the point?
« Reply #2 on: January 19, 2009, 09:22:03 AM »

I saw this feature and thought finally some useful tools in a home router.  Then I too noticed I could only route to the WAN..... ???  That's the whole purpose of the hardware isn't it?

Really a disappointment.
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lotacus

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Re: Advanced networking - routing feature, what's the point?
« Reply #3 on: February 01, 2009, 07:23:06 PM »

this is the same as the dir-655. I been going through my thoughts about it and then looking at what I have set up now.

I have dir-655 and a wireless gateway that was provided by the service provider (which is useless).

I have the the router connected to the wireless (dsl)gateway through the dlinks wan port. I have the dlink set to connect through the gway using PPOE. Some wired computers connected to dlink.

if there were devices connected to (dsl)gateway, devices on (dsl)gateway would not be able to communicate with devices on dlink and vise versa. with routing enabled, they should be able to communicate with each other.

it can work another way as well...

(dsl)gateway used for internet, as opposed to my above configuration.

I want on my dlink, home computers. on my (dsl)gateway I want a webserver and torrent server and perhaps file server, maybe even IP camera. With these connected to (dsl)gateway it is much an easy task to access these services from the internet, and for these servers to access the internet. These computers would have their own DHCP assigned IP address ie: 192.168.2.1.

The dlink computers are all have their own DHCP assigned IP address ie: 10.0.0.1. Dlink computers can communicate with each other but not with (dsl)gateway devices.

The dlink WAN port is connected to the (dsl)gateway. dlink gets ip address from (dsl)gatway. With routing, ifnormation of the (dsl) gateway would be entered, which would allow computers on dlink to connect and talk to computers on (dsl)gateway.


However, lets say you just have a dlink and a modem, which would be a typical setup.

Your buddy across the street has a network and has done the preliminary work on his end regarding incoming connections. You would set route settings to his external ip address/subnet which would then allow all your computers to talk to all his computers as if they were part of the LAN.

at least that's how I assume the scenerios are.

I never used it myself because I never really understood it, perhaps because I never had the need to do it, but did try it once with me in Toronto and my brother in Ottawa, who had a shared drive set up and I was able to mount his shared drive as if it were a drive on the network. That was years and years ago, so I do know it works. :)
« Last Edit: February 01, 2009, 07:25:19 PM by lotacus »
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