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Author Topic: Confirmed Firmware Issue with Parental Controls  (Read 16817 times)

Fluke

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Re: Confirmed Firmware Issue with Parental Controls
« Reply #15 on: April 14, 2011, 01:09:31 PM »

Google may be the devil, but you have to place the majority of blame on the router's parental controls.  It should block sites it says will be blocked.

Aside from that, Chrome is a free download that is readily available.  So is Opera.  So is Safari. So is whatever someone thinks up next.  These are all available for you in about four clicks. Do I have to install and check every one each time they update?

If I have to jump through hoops to try to lock down a teenager's computer to the point where they can't install anything, that's counter-productive for me and the teenager, and it still means the router's parental controls aren't doing the job they claimed they would.

Chrome, however awful and nefarious it may be (though it is pretty fast) is just the flavor of the month today.  Something else will come along later that may get through the parental control, too, and I'll be trying to figure out how to lock that one down, right?

Or the firmware could figure it out, like it probably should.

But thanks again for your help. I do appreciate it.
« Last Edit: April 15, 2011, 12:26:58 PM by Fluke »
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Re: Confirmed Firmware Issue with Parental Controls
« Reply #16 on: April 14, 2011, 03:56:04 PM »

Can the router block by protocol or IP address? It's kinda hard to block a keyword in a URL that is encrypted https so you may have to block all https traffic, which I doubt you want to do. More importantly, I don't see how it is counterproductive to monitor and manage what the kids are able to see/do. You either want control or you don't. If you want control over what and when certain sites are accessed get a full blown content filter or software that is specifically designed to do so.

The bouncer analogy is right on the money marmoduke.
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Fluke

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Re: Confirmed Firmware Issue with Parental Controls
« Reply #17 on: April 15, 2011, 01:56:13 AM »

Thanks. Blocking https works, but you're right that it also blocks another site I need to allow.  

If there's a way to allow an exception, then that would be awesome.

The general consensus here seems to be that it's Google's fault for exploiting a vulnerability in the parental controls, and my fault for allowing my high schooler permission to install software on her own computer.

It's counterproductive when I have to be available to type in an administrator password in order for any .exe or plug-in to be installed. If you're trying to apply this level of security and control, your kid probably shouldn't be on the Internet because, don't kid yourself, the WWW can't be watered down to a G rating.

Hard to believe I need to buy a Sonicwall appliance and pay a $300/yr license just to limit access to Facebook. My D-Link (and Cisco, and Netgear) router said "parental controls" right on the box.  What was that about?


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Re: Confirmed Firmware Issue with Parental Controls
« Reply #18 on: April 15, 2011, 07:44:20 AM »

Just curious, have you presented this issue with any on at Google?
Checked there forums for this?

I how they want users to use Chrome:
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/btl/why-is-chrome-so-important-to-google-its-a-locked-in-user/47295?tag=nl.e539
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Re: Confirmed Firmware Issue with Parental Controls
« Reply #19 on: April 15, 2011, 08:10:21 AM »

Try as i might, I still see no fault with the site blocking on my A router.  I only wish it had more capacity.
To micromanage a computer, get a good software firewall.  Your router is protecting the IP/gateway it is assigned.  Chrome is using something else.  To use a software firewall to block how Chrome is routing would most likely kill your internet via Chrome.  The router is not a full blown firewall, it just macro manages and is best used with generalities like:

rolex
advert
click
free
cash
offshore
spy
google-analytics
adult
offer
adserve
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Fluke

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Re: Confirmed Firmware Issue with Parental Controls
« Reply #20 on: April 15, 2011, 12:40:59 PM »

I would guess that, since it has to be installed on her computer, it wouldn't be hard for my daughter to figure out how to disable or uninstall the firewall software.

I'm not by any means bent on using Chrome.  If I manage to keep everyone in my house from using it, it doesn't solve the problem for the next guy who finds this glitch.

I haven't bothered trying to contact Google about it because I figured their response would probably be something like, "Cool!"

Just typing    Facebook login    into the address bar and clicking the top search result lets me login every time. What, besides that, is the difference between the A and B routers?
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Re: Confirmed Firmware Issue with Parental Controls
« Reply #21 on: April 15, 2011, 01:06:06 PM »

This easiest way to keep them from going to sites is to tell them not to do it and if they do they lose the use of the computer.
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Fluke

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Re: Confirmed Firmware Issue with Parental Controls
« Reply #22 on: April 15, 2011, 04:49:51 PM »

To be honest, I came to a D-Link forum more seeking computer advice.   I get my parenting tips from Dr. Phil's website (username: DaddysCry2)

The solution I thought was easiest was to log onto her Facebook account, change her password, and change her contact address to mine.  Done and done.  ...and I can prove it works.
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Re: Confirmed Firmware Issue with Parental Controls
« Reply #23 on: April 15, 2011, 06:50:05 PM »

How do you have her computer account setup?  Make her a limited user on the system and have a password protected admin account with your name and then setup the parental controls on the system to keep her out of places hat you don't want her in.
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Re: Confirmed Firmware Issue with Parental Controls
« Reply #24 on: April 16, 2011, 11:30:39 AM »

I would edit the host file too...if you want to keep her off FB entirely that is.
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Re: Confirmed Firmware Issue with Parental Controls
« Reply #25 on: October 18, 2012, 03:48:00 PM »

I tend to agree with Fluke. What is the point of developing access control, and website filters on certain time of day if all my 10 year old needs to do is type an " s " after http and the whole www is there at any time.
Sure , you could block the whole thing with firewall and parental control, but still , I think DLink dropped the ball on that one and at least don't advertise it as a feature.

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Re: Confirmed Firmware Issue with Parental Controls
« Reply #26 on: October 19, 2012, 07:09:30 AM »

I believe the controls do work, just depends if the configurations are set up correctly.
i do believe DNS Relay and Advanced DNS Services need to be used along with configuring Reserved IP addresses, Scheduling, and Access Controls.

If your having problems with Parental Controls, its recommended to contact your local D-Link support office, maybe level 2 and ask them for help.


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