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Author Topic: can't connect any devices over 65m speeds  (Read 17027 times)

marauder

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can't connect any devices over 65m speeds
« on: July 11, 2011, 06:53:43 AM »

i've read the sticky above for settings to get to 300 and no luck, not that i'm wanting to get to 300 i just want to connect over 65m. according to the wireless status screen on the router my laptop, ipad, and 2 iphones will not connect over 65m.

i have had a DIR-655 Rev. A router for years now and had no problems connecting my laptop to it well over 150m, the iproducts never got over 65m, i'm OK with that if they just won't but i would like to get there if possible. i went out and picked up a 2nd 655 (rev B) and flashed the bios up to the newest version 2.03NA and went in and mirrored all of the settings from the original router and then replaced the old router with the new one. the old router is not being used at this time though there are plans to use it as an access point later in another part of the house. i have updated the drivers for the wireless N card on my laptop (i can't remember the name of the adapter or the model, i'll provide that when i go home for lunch today). i've tried various settings for security, (i want to use WPA2 only, personal key, AES cipher, channel width 20/40 auto) i've even tried no security and it still won't connect over 65m.

some things i've tried so far to help troubleshoot.

changed channels
looked for other routers in the area interfering (no routers)
tried to set the channel width to 40mhz on the laptop but there is no option
no real configurable options on the iproducts (big shocker there)
i'm using N/G mixed and want to continue to do that if possible but i have tried N only
i've tried using no security settings at all (open router) no luck

EDIT:
i've also tried disabling wish
i've also tried disabling QoS
neither changed anything.


no matter what i do it just will not connect over 65m on any device.

i can put my Rev A router back in service and my laptop will connect to it and soar well above 65m speeds but not on the new one.

i'm not opposed to backing down to prior versions of the firmware if that will fix my problem.

thanks
« Last Edit: July 11, 2011, 07:02:57 AM by marauder »
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Re: can't connect any devices over 65m speeds
« Reply #1 on: July 11, 2011, 08:20:33 AM »

Need to make sure that your devices support WiFi connections over 54Mb and they support connections on N mode as well. I'm not sure if all Apple devices support N modes. I believe the Ipad and the iphone 4 support N mode at 2.4Ghz.

What wireless modes is the router set for now? Try single mode N with out any security to test. Then try Mixed G and N with out security. Turn security back on and check.

Some devices are set up to pick the best connection speed so even though you have Mixed modes, the device might pick G over N. Sometimes forcing N mode would be to set single mode N on the router.
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Re: can't connect any devices over 65m speeds
« Reply #2 on: July 11, 2011, 09:18:56 AM »

Need to make sure that your devices support WiFi connections over 54Mb and they support connections on N mode as well. I'm not sure if all Apple devices support N modes. I believe the Ipad and the iphone 4 support N mode at 2.4Ghz.

What wireless modes is the router set for now? Try single mode N with out any security to test. Then try Mixed G and N with out security. Turn security back on and check.

Some devices are set up to pick the best connection speed so even though you have Mixed modes, the device might pick G over N. Sometimes forcing N mode would be to set single mode N on the router.

all of my devices support N mode, as stated above, with the exception of my printer that uses G.
all of the devices are using N mode, confirmed in multiple locations such as the wireless status screen and on the devices themselves.

i have already tried your last 2 suggestions as i had listed above.

again the laptop was and still is able to connect to my old router at speeds over 65m, it's only on the new router that it never gets over 65m.

thanks
« Last Edit: July 11, 2011, 09:32:58 AM by marauder »
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Re: can't connect any devices over 65m speeds
« Reply #3 on: July 11, 2011, 09:31:35 AM »

well i just plugged the old router in just to double check my speeds, verified them and then put the new one back in line and now it's showing 167m+ in the wireless status screen for a couple of seconds, then it drops to 65m and stays there.
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Re: can't connect any devices over 65m speeds
« Reply #4 on: July 11, 2011, 09:38:34 AM »

Possible you might try setting the channel scan, channel and maybe width to manual. It looks like the device is connecting at the higher speed however is falling back to slower speed due to something.

Any other Wifi in the area?
Any cordless phones?
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Re: can't connect any devices over 65m speeds
« Reply #5 on: July 11, 2011, 09:47:54 AM »

Possible you might try setting the channel scan, channel and maybe width to manual. It looks like the device is connecting at the higher speed however is falling back to slower speed due to something.

Any other Wifi in the area?
Any cordless phones?


there is one other wireless router in the area that i can occasionally see but it's signal is so low i can't connect to it, there are 2 wireless phones in the house both of which run on 5ghz and 6ghz respectively so there is no issue there.

i had the auto scan on my old router and it set my channel to 11 and left it there for years so i just set this one manually.

my wireless settings are as follows.

N/G mixed modes
transmission rate: (best auto)
channel width: (auto 20/40) (the only other choice is 20 only)
sec. mode: WPA-Personal
WPA mode:WPA2 only
cypher type: AES
group update inter.:3600 seconds
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Re: can't connect any devices over 65m speeds
« Reply #6 on: July 11, 2011, 09:50:35 AM »

my wireless adapter in the laptop is Atheros AR9285 802.11b/g/n wifi adapter
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Re: can't connect any devices over 65m speeds
« Reply #7 on: July 11, 2011, 10:04:27 AM »

Try setting transmission rate to manual. Best transmission rate is probably falling back the the best transmission it can do for the LT.

Also,
What are your Advanced/Wireless settings currently?
Disable WLAN Partition and Short GI.
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Re: can't connect any devices over 65m speeds
« Reply #8 on: July 11, 2011, 10:28:25 AM »

Try setting transmission rate to manual. Best transmission rate is probably falling back the the best transmission it can do for the LT.

Also,
What are your Advanced/Wireless settings currently?
Disable WLAN Partition and Short GI.

i'll look at the emulator and see if i can remember what they are but i'm back at work so i can't post them for sure till i go home at 5.

as far as setting the wireless settings goes, what should i set it to? and will it have any effects on wireless range?

one other thing that i started thinking about on the drive back to work was that my laptop adapter has both the ip4 and the ipv6 checked in the config, and i want to think the status page has both a ip4 and an ip6 IP addresses listed, that would be the only difference between my old router and the new one, the old one didn't support ip6. could this be the issue or something worth looking into, i hate to start removing configurations for internet adapters as i've been bitten by this in the past.
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Re: can't connect any devices over 65m speeds
« Reply #9 on: July 11, 2011, 10:31:41 AM »

looking at the emulator page i think it's exactly like you see here http://support.dlink.com/Emulators/dir655_revB/201/adv_wlan_perform.html when i get home i'll uncheck that and give it a try.
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Re: can't connect any devices over 65m speeds
« Reply #10 on: July 11, 2011, 10:34:55 AM »

Ok, let us know. Just seems like it can see the higher speed however something is causing the LT to fall back to something slower. This could be something in the WiFi properties on the LT too. See if there is any WiFi radio settings there too.

What OS version is loaded on the LT?
Ensure the drivers are up to date too.
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Re: can't connect any devices over 65m speeds
« Reply #11 on: July 11, 2011, 10:37:28 AM »

Ok, let us know. Just seems like it can see the higher speed however something is causing the LT to fall back to something slower. This could be something in the WiFi properties on the LT too. See if there is any WiFi radio settings there too.

What OS version is loaded on the LT?
Ensure the drivers are up to date too.

i've looked for wifi radio settings on the laptop and i can't really find anything other than an "adhoc 11n" setting that is normally disabled, i tried enabling it with no results.

the LT has win 7 64-bit
and all drivers are up to date, i updated them last night when i started troubleshooting this.
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Re: can't connect any devices over 65m speeds
« Reply #12 on: July 11, 2011, 10:45:38 AM »

Ok, let us know what you find out with those other settings.
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Re: can't connect any devices over 65m speeds
« Reply #13 on: July 11, 2011, 03:04:30 PM »

i've tried all of these suggestions so far and have no results, it still connects at 65mb regardless of what i do. i tried the manual setting for the broadcast and couldn't get the laptop or any of my other devices to connect at all.
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Re: can't connect any devices over 65m speeds
« Reply #14 on: July 18, 2011, 07:49:19 AM »

Did you ever get this working over 65mbps? I just got this router and am having the same issue. (RevB with current firmware)

I'm beginning to forget what all I've done but I think I was able to get 130mbps with no security. But when I enabled WPA-PSK-AES I'm only getting 65mbps?

And on my desktop that is on the 2nd floor (router is on the 1st) I wasn't even able to connect. Signal strength was really weak. But my old Linksys G router (blue and black model - OLD) was working fine? I was expecting the range to be way better on this Xtreme N router than my 6 year old Linksys.

I just downloaded a Wifi Analyzer app on my phone and am going to check the signal strengths between the two routers tonight.


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