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[Demondriver]

ok eddie i changed the settings both to endpoint independent and already had spi turned off.  Although your lingo is beyond my knowledge 8P i do understand what you are saying about how those certain things that rely heavily on "things" could be affecting my performance.  As stated this is my first endeavor into networking, routers etc. simply because i wanted more utility out of my system.

No i dont believe i have altered the windows mtu or mss settings (vista x64) and am unsure of how to go about changing them.  Any insight on what i would need to do to go about changing those settings and for what purpose it would serve?

Also in order to possibly better assist you in figuring out my issue am i able to simply just google a "packet sniffer" application and run it, save a log and then put it up here for u to examine?

[Demondriver]

another side note.  Cleared log. rebooted router and restarted computer.  First thing i did was go back to the router log and look to see if anything had accumulated yet since i hadnt visited any websites etc.

Same log issues as before.  "blocking of icmp 3 from xxx address to xxx address"

I utilize opendns for dns resolution (have dns relay turned off)  i noticed that it had blocked that address from transfering as well right from the get go (icmp 3 error as before)

It makes sense like u said eddy that i may have something incorrectly setup, the hassle of it all is for the most part each individual person has to customize things to there own systems needs. grrr.  is there where the packet sniffer application will come into use for further diagnosis?

[EddieZ]

Before getting into that, do a thorough spyware/virus check on the .199 machine.

What OS do you have?

Download a trial (http://www.effetech.com/) or do a quick google search on "LAN packet sniffer"

[Demondriver]

did the virus check, kaspersky, norton, and avg. clean. adware clean. 

odd part.  Looked into the blocked address's.  Out of boredom i decided to copy one of the blocked ip addresses into my browser to see what it would bring up if nething.  It did and it was some random BS type site of a person blabblin about there family trip and pictures etc.

operating system : Vista x64 SP1 with all the latest updates

[EddieZ]

Well, I guess the router's not to blame here.
get some logs or try to find the source of the requests on your LAN, it's a bit hard to diagnose that from this distance 

[davevt31]

You can type IP addresses here using the Whois Lookup to find out who is hitting too:

http://www.dnsstuff.com/

[Demondriver]

lol totally understandable eddie 8P man i totally appreciate your fast response's to my posts i must say you truely are a fan of mine now 8P

Whats striking me as odd though is this is a fresh install of Vista x64, rebuilt raid array and 2 full formats with main boot sector zero'd out. (for the same concerns as you, virus, adware etc.)  only downloaded a couple things.  After completing the scans and everything checking ok, to have an "odd" ip address be blocked (probly a good thing) when everything is checking out "fine" doesnt make to much sense to me.  Only thing i can think of is the possibility of a cookie or other type of internet packet being on here thats not registering with my scan services.  

To make things even more odd my degradation issue occured even directly after a clean install with only manufacturer provided driver's/software being installed.

It's like tryin to stick a 1inch bolt through a 1/2in bolt hole, the two just dont fit 8P

Along with gathering more data for your end to analyze im gonna divulge myself into the possibility of a client side issue, starting off with disabling my primary raid drives and only utilizing my external backup drive to boot up with WinXP and see if the log still contains the oddities that are occurring.  Due to RL may be a day or 2 before i can gather the information.

Btw would it help if i sent u my saved config file for you to look over my settings or is that a "no no" in these forums etc.?  Anyways ill return with more info next time

[davevt31]

You may want to look at any software that auto updates itself too.  I just took the newest Google Earth off my system because I didn't want their software auto update running all the time as a service.

[Demondriver]

also just to throw this out there, ive never had bandwidth issues before having this router.  Ran the same setup with the same software for a little over 2yrs now and only had "minor" dips in performance but it'd always return.  Although me and eddie have found things that seem "odd", as stated i've never had performance issues prior to adding this router in.  So in theory i'm doubting its a software/virus/adware issue seeing as how i havent done nething different as i have in the past.  Unplugging the router and running my net directly to my built in nic resolves all issues and things are back to being perfectly fine and normal.  Hence y i im feeling that the router is the issue. 

[ryan200]

how are you checking your speed?

what made you check your speed in the first place websites loading slowlly.

ping this ip 74.125.67.100 then run it till your connection slows down and ping it again (a lot easier than a speed test as i don't trust the server to always have the bandwidth to provide you with consistent results).

i also suspect that you might need to limit your upload speed inside of azurues vuze.

i have noticed with vuze when you limit your upload bitorrent has a lot of overhead and is using a lot more upload bandwidth than it says in program.

if you do a speed test and find out your upload speed then limit it to 70% of your total upload to see if that makes a difference. also if you can limit connections to 200 and only have 2 torrents open at a time. give that a try.

i used to have a lot less problems myself i suspect it was my new cable modem they gave me for VOIP that gave me all my problems.

now i believe it was a new firmware for this router that gave us all those Blocked outgoing ICMP packet (ICMP type 3) errors when running torrents. but i still use torrents sucessfully.

i prefer utorrent after vuze got too bulky.

[EddieZ]

lol totally understandable eddie 8P man i totally appreciate your fast response's to my posts i must say you truely are a fan of mine now 8P

Whats striking me as odd though is this is a fresh install of Vista x64, rebuilt raid array and 2 full formats with main boot sector zero'd out. (for the same concerns as you, virus, adware etc.)  only downloaded a couple things.  After completing the scans and everything checking ok, to have an "odd" ip address be blocked (probly a good thing) when everything is checking out "fine" doesnt make to much sense to me.  Only thing i can think of is the possibility of a cookie or other type of internet packet being on here thats not registering with my scan services.  

To make things even more odd my degradation issue occured even directly after a clean install with only manufacturer provided driver's/software being installed.

It's like tryin to stick a 1inch bolt through a 1/2in bolt hole, the two just dont fit 8P

Along with gathering more data for your end to analyze im gonna divulge myself into the possibility of a client side issue, starting off with disabling my primary raid drives and only utilizing my external backup drive to boot up with WinXP and see if the log still contains the oddities that are occurring.  Due to RL may be a day or 2 before i can gather the information.

Btw would it help if i sent u my saved config file for you to look over my settings or is that a "no no" in these forums etc.?  Anyways ill return with more info next time

The saved config file from the router is encrypted, so it cannot be analyzed as txt unfortunately.

When a clean install already gives you these issues I would be curious as to the internet modem you're using and how it is configured. I'm suspecting a blockage there. Can you access it and configure it or is it a 'black box' thing from the ISP?

Secondly, are you sure your wireless part isn't infiltrated or something?

And please limit your Utorrent upload bandwidth to max. 50% of the available ISP upstream bandwidth. When your upload bandwidth is running full speed with torrent uploads you will also kill your download speed (TCP traffic depends on a 'send request -receive answer - connect' principle. If your bandwidth is 'owned' by torrent traffic you cannot communicate outbound to a received request, which will also lead to ........ ICMP type3

[Demondriver]

mind you my issues arent caused just by using a p2p service, i simply stated using it as a test bed since it does pull alot of connections etc.  The problem is issued moreso from just general usage and not from ne one thing in particular.

I utilize no isp modem, i live in the country and am only able to access "wireless" internet from my isp.  (now before everyone starts jumping on he randomness quality of wireless keep this in mind, i run bandwidth test's twice a day at speakeasy.net for the last 2 yrs and do a link test using my isp's configuration emulator (not supposed to have access to it but the tech guy was kind enough to give me the address for it 8P)

Never have i had a degradation issue n the 2yrs i've utilized their service.

My internet runs directly into my motherboards built-in Network Controller, Marvell Yukon gigabit controller
Model : Marvell Yukon 88E8056 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet Controller(newest drivers installed, also tried original drivers)

Now keep in mind i'm not trying to be ignorant or argumentative or anything of the such so please bear with me. I still have yet to run a packet sniffing application etc.

No virus's adware or such on this pc.

Issues began to occur only after purchasing and installing this router into my setup therefore that is why my belief is that i have either a faulty product or have settings not properly defined.  Makes sense since before using the router i never had issues at all in 2yrs

And yes while utilizing a p2p program i do throttle my bandwidth, typically 60% of down speed and only 25% of up speed so over utilization isn't my current concern

As stated before i've never had issues with my internet/bandwidth until the installation of this router therefore that would lead me to believe that infiltration or anything odd would be the cause of my issue and that the matter quite honestly is a setup issue or simply a faulty device from the get go.

[Xinot]

I have this firewall problem too with my 655.
For example, i have one poker client running, and everything is ok until game start.
When game start, client say my connection is excellent, but then it just stops. If it wont get disconnected, it says my connection is very bad. So it only excellent, very bad or disconnected.
This wont happend every time game start, but allmost middle of every game i play. It just start blocking everything and nothing works.

DIR-655 log is full of this:

[INFO] Sun Feb 08 18:20:43 2009 Log viewed by IP address 192.168.0.100
[INFO] Sun Feb 08 18:20:22 2009 Blocked incoming UDP packet from 130.232.127.88:36923 to xx.xxx.xxx.xx:56444
[INFO] Sun Feb 08 18:20:16 2009 Above message repeated 2 times
[INFO] Sun Feb 08 18:19:36 2009 Blocked incoming UDP packet from 75.139.60.210:18748 to xx.xxx.xxx.xx:49934
[INFO] Sun Feb 08 18:19:11 2009 Blocked incoming TCP connection request from 221.130.76.77:6000 to xx.xxx.xxx.xx:1433
[INFO] Sun Feb 08 18:17:22 2009 Blocked incoming UDP packet from 75.139.60.210:16882 to xx.xxx.xxx.xx:49934
[INFO] Sun Feb 08 18:17:09 2009 Above message repeated 1 times
[INFO] Sun Feb 08 18:16:53 2009 Blocked incoming UDP packet from 203.185.34.239:23416 to xx.xxx.xxx.xx:33163
[INFO] Sun Feb 08 18:16:11 2009 Blocked incoming UDP packet from 75.139.60.210:16882 to xx.xxx.xxx.xx:49934
[INFO] Sun Feb 08 18:14:36 2009 Above message repeated 3 times
[INFO] Sun Feb 08 18:14:17 2009 Blocked incoming UDP packet from 85.81.46.73:23309 to xx.xxx.xxx.xx:49999
[INFO] Sun Feb 08 18:14:07 2009 Above message repeated 1 times
[INFO] Sun Feb 08 18:13:38 2009 Blocked incoming UDP packet from 62.30.146.38:54518 to xx.xxx.xxx.xx:57986
[INFO] Sun Feb 08 18:13:37 2009 Blocked incoming UDP packet from 85.81.46.73:23309 to xx.xxx.xxx.xx:49999
[INFO] Sun Feb 08 18:12:39 2009 Blocked incoming UDP packet from 75.139.60.210:16150 to xx.xxx.xxx.xx:49934
[INFO] Sun Feb 08 18:11:19 2009 Blocked incoming UDP packet from 75.139.60.210:15608 to xx.xxx.xxx.xx:49934
[INFO] Sun Feb 08 18:11:06 2009 Blocked incoming UDP packet from 85.81.46.73:23309 to xx.xxx.xxx.xx:49999
[INFO] Sun Feb 08 18:09:34 2009 Blocked incoming UDP packet from 202.97.238.236:57419 to xx.xxx.xxx.xx:1027
[INFO] Sun Feb 08 18:09:34 2009 Blocked incoming UDP packet from 202.97.238.236:38584 to xx.xxx.xxx.xx:1026
[INFO] Sun Feb 08 18:08:15 2009 Log viewed by IP address 192.168.0.100
[INFO] Sun Feb 08 18:07:57 2009 Blocked incoming UDP packet from 75.139.60.210:13896 to xx.xxx.xxx.xx:49934
[INFO] Sun Feb 08 18:07:01 2009 Above message repeated 2 times
[INFO] Sun Feb 08 18:05:24 2009 Blocked incoming UDP packet from 75.139.60.210:12989 to xx.xxx.xxx.xx:49934
[INFO] Sun Feb 08 18:04:59 2009 Above message repeated 1 times
[INFO] Sun Feb 08 18:04:48 2009 Blocked incoming UDP packet from 60.15.177.169:39057 to xx.xxx.xxx.xx:1026
[INFO] Sun Feb 08 18:04:42 2009 Log viewed by IP address 192.168.0.100
[INFO] Sun Feb 08 18:03:55 2009 Blocked incoming UDP packet from 85.81.46.73:22617 to xx.xxx.xxx.xx:49999
[INFO] Sun Feb 08 18:03:41 2009 Log viewed by IP address 192.168.0.100
[INFO] Sun Feb 08 18:03:37 2009 Blocked incoming ICMP error message (ICMP type 3) from 80.221.238.9 to xx.xxx.xxx.xx as there is no TCP connection active between xx.xxx.xxx.xx:2196 and 192.168.11.3:6112
[INFO] Sun Feb 08 18:03:35 2009 Blocked incoming UDP packet from 85.81.46.73:22617 to xx.xxx.xxx.xx:49999
[INFO] Sun Feb 08 18:03:34 2009 Blocked incoming ICMP error message (ICMP type 3) from 80.221.238.9 to xx.xxx.xxx.xx as there is no TCP connection active between xx.xxx.xxx.xx:2196 and 192.168.11.3:6112
[INFO] Sun Feb 08 18:03:27 2009 Blocked incoming UDP packet from 62.30.146.38:54516 to xx.xxx.xxx.xx:57986
[INFO] Sun Feb 08 18:03:26 2009 Blocked incoming UDP packet from 85.81.46.73:22617 to xx.xxx.xxx.xx:49999


Why is that?

XP+vista
1PC+2Laptops
DIR-655
Cable 100/5 with Cisco EPC3000

Bad English

[Xinot]

New game and everything was ok until it just disconnets and log is full of this....

Priority   Time   Message
[INFO]   Sun Feb 08 19:51:24 2009   Blocked incoming UDP packet from 85.81.46.73:19402 to xx.xxx.xxx.xx:49999
[INFO]   Sun Feb 08 19:51:00 2009   Blocked outgoing ICMP packet (ICMP type 3) from 192.168.0.195 to 60.15.177.169
[INFO]   Sun Feb 08 19:49:53 2009   Blocked incoming UDP packet from 85.81.46.73:19402 to xx.xxx.xxx.xx:49999
[INFO]   Sun Feb 08 19:49:46 2009   Log viewed by IP address 192.168.0.100
[INFO]   Sun Feb 08 19:49:43 2009   Above message repeated 1 times
[INFO]   Sun Feb 08 19:49:03 2009   Blocked incoming UDP packet from 62.30.146.38:54548 to xx.xxx.xxx.xx:57986
[INFO]   Sun Feb 08 19:49:00 2009   Blocked incoming ICMP error message (ICMP type 3) from 80.221.238.9 to xx.xxx.xxx.xx as there is no TCP connection active between xx.xxx.xxx.xx:3360 and 192.168.11.3:6112
[INFO]   Sun Feb 08 19:48:56 2009   Above message repeated 1 times
[INFO]   Sun Feb 08 19:48:23 2009   Log viewed by IP address 192.168.0.100

btw.192.168.0.195 is my digital tuner box (or something like that in english)

[Demondriver]

ahh finally someone else to support my issues 8P neways when i acually get back home to my main pc ima run he packet sniffing app like eddie wants me to, maybe that will shed a little light upon the situation for me or both of us.  I'm nearly convinced its a router based issue whether it bit misconfiguration or faulty hardware after running a series of tests the nite before when i was at home (everything is a-ok without router plugged in to system)

Xinot for further assistance within this thread could u please post your router's hardware version and the firmware version you are utilizing, both are info that will be needed for people's diagnostics