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Author Topic: Optimizing DIR655 as Access Point  (Read 33652 times)

P01arBear

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Optimizing DIR655 as Access Point
« on: November 14, 2011, 12:39:46 PM »

Hi there!

I just moved into a new appartment and my buddy next door and I are sharing a connexion using a 2wire router (comes with the internet connexion by the company, with their own firmware).

Now, since the 2wire router signal doesn't perform well, I set up my DIR-655 as an Access point.

Now I would like to know what are the optimal settings for a better signal, and also speed. I rather have stability by wifi g/n mixed (maybe will go n only soon).

Some extra questions;
- Should I deactivate the firewall on my DIR655 to gain speed? I imagine it isn't really usefull since there is already another main router.
- Should I check or uncheck "Short GI", "WMM Enable" and "Extra Wireless Protection"?
- Should I activate or deactivate QoS engine and WISH since it is an acess point to gain speed?
- The firmware on the DIR655 is actualy 1.21, is their a newer and stable firmware I should upgrade to?

Thanks!
« Last Edit: November 14, 2011, 01:22:37 PM by P01arBear »
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Re: Optimizing DIR655 as Access Point
« Reply #1 on: November 14, 2011, 12:40:49 PM »

This link should get you started. Its a sticky on another thread.
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Re: Optimizing DIR655 as Access Point
« Reply #2 on: November 14, 2011, 12:43:32 PM »

Yes I use a DGL-4500 as an AP on 5Ghz single N only. I would use Mixed G and N or Single if you can do it. Depends on your devices and what they support.

Yes, turn off everything you don't need, SPI, QoS, WISH, Short GI and Extra Wireless Protection. Might play around with WMM Enable to see if it works better ON or OFF. Any access or MAC filters too to be sure.

Keep us posted.
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Re: Optimizing DIR655 as Access Point
« Reply #3 on: November 14, 2011, 01:21:41 PM »

Also, I am currently on firmware 1.21. Is there a newer and stable firmware I should upgrade to?
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Re: Optimizing DIR655 as Access Point
« Reply #4 on: November 14, 2011, 01:24:22 PM »

People say 1.35 is good. I recommend using whats loaded now if it's working well for you.  ;)

Bridge Mode vs Relay vs Acess Point (AP) / Routers vs Dedicated Acess Points (AP)
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Re: Optimizing DIR655 as Access Point
« Reply #5 on: August 02, 2013, 07:52:20 PM »

Hi, I know this thread/topic is old, however I've just begun using my DIR-655 as an access point and I have a question regarding WISH.

It's said earlier in the thread that WISH should be disabled... Why?

I have left WISH running and it doesn't seem to be harming anything. It's designed to prioritize high priority wireless traffic... Isn't that something you'd want to have on an ap?

Thanks.
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Re: Optimizing DIR655 as Access Point
« Reply #6 on: August 02, 2013, 07:54:52 PM »

Features like WISH depend on the WAN port connection for proper usage. When in AP mode, the WAN port isn't used thus all the features that use the WAN port become non-functional.
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Re: Optimizing DIR655 as Access Point
« Reply #7 on: August 02, 2013, 08:01:17 PM »

Where is it documented that it uses the WAN?

From what I understand it uses algorithms that analyze the behavior of the wireless traffic in order to categorize it...

It seems to be working when I go Status>WISH Sessions... Shows my wireless traffic, source and destination, protocol, state and has assigned a priority...
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Re: Optimizing DIR655 as Access Point
« Reply #8 on: August 02, 2013, 08:05:37 PM »

It maybe working for you however in wired ap mode it's preferred to disable all features and let the main host router handle any optimizing of WiFi traffic and use the AP as a pass thru. Any additional processing on the AP will probably lower performance of data flow thru the AP to the main host router.

There are additional threads in the FAQ Library for WISH if you need more information.

If it works for you then by all means, enjoy.

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Re: Optimizing DIR655 as Access Point
« Reply #9 on: September 27, 2013, 08:03:03 PM »

Been using the DIR-655 for a couple months now as an AP, but recently discovered that the Guest Zone/Wireless network wasn't working.

When I go to connect to the Guest WiFi (which I had enabled under the Advanced tab in the DIR-655 configuration), my computer wasn't able to get IP information (no reply from a DHCP server).

It occurred to me that perhaps in order for the Guest Zone to function, the DIR-655 needs to be in charge of DHCP... So I was about to disable the DHCP on my main router for the VLAN that I have the DIR-655 in and configure the DHCP server on the DIR-655 when it hit me that there was no way to configure the DIR-655's DHCP server to provide clients with the Default Gateway address of my main router and NOT the DIR-655 (which is just an AP)

In short... I've found that using the DIR-655 as an AP (and disabling DHCP Server) will break the Guest WiFi feature. Please let me know if I'm mistaken.
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Re: Optimizing DIR655 as Access Point
« Reply #10 on: September 27, 2013, 08:56:55 PM »

Using the 655 in AP mode renders guest zome none functional since GZ is dependent upon the WAN port connection.
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Re: Optimizing DIR655 as Access Point
« Reply #11 on: December 03, 2013, 03:38:04 PM »

This link should get you started. Its a sticky on another thread.

In regard to that thread (which was most excellent, btw) I followed the instructions to the letter, but was not able to logon to the router after hooking it up to the network.

What I think may have been some contributing factors to this inability:

1.  My original Asus Rt-N66U has an address of 192.168.1.1.  Whereas, the link asks me to set an IP address of 192.168.0.xxx.  Since I set it to their suggested example of 192.168.0.52 with the subnet mask of 255.255.255.0 (which is the same for my Asus), I have a feeling that the network cannot identify (?) with it.

2.  I have a LAN cable run from the Asus router (LAN port) to my rec room into a gigabit 8-port switch.  I attached a LAN cable from that switch into a LAN (NOT WAN) port on the DIR-655.

What do I need to change to be able to logon to the DIR-655 to finalize the settings?
Do I need to give it an IP address of 192.168.1.xxx ?

Help....
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Re: Optimizing DIR655 as Access Point
« Reply #12 on: December 03, 2013, 04:04:20 PM »

You are correct.

Because your Asus router has a LAN address of 192.168.1.1 and your D-Link router/AP has a LAN address of 192.168.0.52, they are on DIFFERENT SUBNETS and will NOT be able to communicate. More over any devices on your Asus router's LAN subnet (including your pc, presumably) will not be able to communicate with the D-Link router/ap.

Pick one or the other... chose one subnet and stick with it... Either have a LAN subnet of 192.168.0.xxx or 192.168.1.xxx.

To access the D-Link router/ap, you'll need to give your pc a static IP address that's in the same subnet as the router (ex. 192.168.0.53). You may also need to connect directly to one of the router's LAN ports.

Cheers.
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Re: Optimizing DIR655 as Access Point
« Reply #13 on: December 03, 2013, 04:48:02 PM »

If your main host router is using 192.168.1.1, try using 192.168.1.50 on the AP.


In regard to that thread (which was most excellent, btw) I followed the instructions to the letter, but was not able to logon to the router after hooking it up to the network.

What I think may have been some contributing factors to this inability:

1.  My original Asus Rt-N66U has an address of 192.168.1.1.  Whereas, the link asks me to set an IP address of 192.168.0.xxx.  Since I set it to their suggested example of 192.168.0.52 with the subnet mask of 255.255.255.0 (which is the same for my Asus), I have a feeling that the network cannot identify (?) with it.

2.  I have a LAN cable run from the Asus router (LAN port) to my rec room into a gigabit 8-port switch.  I attached a LAN cable from that switch into a LAN (NOT WAN) port on the DIR-655.

What do I need to change to be able to logon to the DIR-655 to finalize the settings?
Do I need to give it an IP address of 192.168.1.xxx ?

Help....
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Re: Optimizing DIR655 as Access Point
« Reply #14 on: December 03, 2013, 06:03:52 PM »

Since I am unable to logon to the DIR-655, I guess I have to do a reset and begin again...right?

I am not so sure I understand the idea of giving my PC a static IP address.  When would I even use that IP address and why?

Since no one mentioned about my LAN cable going to the gigabit switch, I'm gonna assume that was okay to do.  I think I have definitely made the mistake of purchasing two components here - the switch and the router for an access point.  I should have gone with an 8-port wireless router to act as both an access point and provide me with lots of ports to cable into.  A 4-port router leaves only three ports for extras...Is this correct?

Anyway, gotta go do a reset...will report back with my findings or unfindings...:)  Thanks for all the help so far.
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