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investindy

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UPnP Auto Refresh
« on: November 26, 2011, 02:56:47 PM »

My unit seems to be intermittent on if i can see new files when they are added.  Going in and forcing a refresh seems to fix it.

I noticed on the ITunes tab there is an auto refresh setting but do not see the same thing for UpnP.  Is there a trick to automate this?  Could not find it in the manual.
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cable2

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Re: UPnP Auto Refresh
« Reply #1 on: November 27, 2011, 06:38:57 AM »

Hi,
I am running the latest 2.02 firmware. I read somewhere in the GUI information boarder on the right side of the screen that UPNP should automatically update itself once set up.  I have not noticed a problem but I have not been checking to see it this happens immediately or not, but it definitely happens by the next day.  I did notice a while back, when first adding a large amount of data, it did not automatically refresh and I did the manual "refresh".  The other thing I noticed with this units after updating the firmware is that I have had to go in and re-enable and re-save various settings to get them working again even if they show as being enabled.  The other possible thing is that sometimes it seems that a total power down and restart seems to be necessary to get things working again.  I don't know if any of these suggestions will help, but good luck.
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Re: UPnP Auto Refresh
« Reply #2 on: November 28, 2011, 01:45:02 PM »

I have the same problem. I use the DNS320 as a media server primarily and the media library does not automatically update any more since any update after version 2.0. I have to manually refresh the library which takes a long time.

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cable2

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Re: UPnP Auto Refresh
« Reply #3 on: November 28, 2011, 04:43:01 PM »

Hi,
I have done some experimenting.  I transfered a new media folder on to the 320 which was >12GB and the media server did not pick it up in over 24 hours so I did a manual refresh.  I later transfered just a few files over to an already existing folder and these showed up in the media server almost immediately.   That is why I guess I did not notice that it was not working properly after initially moving most of my media over.  I don't know if the problem has something to do with the amount of new data or the new folder, but I think it is the larger amount of data that seems to cause the problems.
Another little problem I have noticed with the media server function is that one of my media players, Argosy brand, I get an "invalid file type" when accessing through the media server, but they play fine if I access them through the network shares and also play fine through another brand of NAS media server.  Some of the "invalid" files are new, but some are quite a bit older and now are coming up as "invalid" and I am pretty certain they all played before this last firmware upgrade.  Perhaps the alphanumeric problem was not the only glitch with the media server.
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investindy

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Re: UPnP Auto Refresh
« Reply #4 on: November 28, 2011, 10:20:04 PM »

I cant speak from 2.0 to 2.02 firmware but i am seeing similar problems using Sony media players (BD570 and a stand alone unit SMP-100).  Certain file types play fine when accessed through a network share via WMP serving them from the NAS (via a PC) but if I try to have then served through the Sharecenter media player UPnP I get invalid file type. Due to not liking the WMP file structures nor do i want to have my PC on to stream media (main reason for NAS purchase) I really dont want to switch to that method.

Does anyone have a list of maybe file type limitations for our NAS units so i can convert my media if necessary?  Is this a bug that Dlink is working on?  I assumed if WMP could serve it any DLNA or UPnP service could do the same (without a transcode).

If we can get more specifics on the file types that are troublesome, does this need to go on the firmware issues list?
« Last Edit: November 28, 2011, 10:29:18 PM by investindy »
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cable2

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Re: UPnP Auto Refresh
« Reply #5 on: November 29, 2011, 06:43:35 AM »

Hi again,
I've recently, since 2.02, noticed some avi's and a couple mp4's have come up as "invalid".  I have a ton of video files and I haven't gone back and checked all of my older stuff as I have too much.  My mp4's usually play on everything.  I also tried converting some of the problem avi's to mp4 and they still wouldn't play from the 320.  I agree that there is a problem with the 320 UPNP/ media server but I am not sure if we should start a new thread or where as the 2.02 is no longer beta.  I am not sure how many are having issues or noticed the issue with "invalid" files.  Dlink is going to want to point to the problem being the device / player manufacturer problem not them.  I guess the question is are others noticing the problem?  Are they assuming it is the player and not the server?
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investindy

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Re: UPnP Auto Refresh
« Reply #6 on: November 29, 2011, 07:03:13 AM »

Cable2,

I think this is worthy to get more feedback on so hopefully DLink can look into this potential bug.  I will try and provide more details tonight on what file formats dont work being served via sharecenter but do through WMP.  I suppose they could try and blame it on my player, but it seems there are some limitations on the DNS-320 if WMP can play the same thing with no transcoding.  I just think we need to understand the limitations and then ask for what formats we would like them to add.  I brought up the topic under firmware observations:

http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=42695.15

Anyone that has similar issues, PLEASE post it in the other thread.

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JavaLawyer

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Re: UPnP Auto Refresh
« Reply #7 on: November 29, 2011, 10:22:19 AM »

If this is a repeatable bug, please post on the firmware wishlist thread and I'll add this to our "growing" list of requests.  ;)
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ionizer

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Re: UPnP Auto Refresh
« Reply #8 on: December 16, 2011, 09:44:31 PM »

I believe I am facing the same issue.

When files (250mb or so) get copied over to an EXISTING folder on my DNS-320 the UPNP server is not identifying to my WD Lives (or other devices like SKIFTA) that the folder has new media in it.

Yet, if i browse the folder VIA Samba, I can clearly access the media.

If i do a manual refresh, all is well, but I shouldn't have to manually refresh.

This seemed to start happening once my UPNP folders began containing a large # of files when i moved over my MP3 files
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Re: UPnP Auto Refresh
« Reply #9 on: December 17, 2011, 04:29:56 AM »

This item is now included on the DNS-320 Firmware Wishlist sticky thread.
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Re: UPnP Auto Refresh
« Reply #10 on: December 18, 2011, 05:24:55 AM »

I just bought a DNS 320 with basic 1TB Hitachi hdd, and run the wizard setup. I have had problems with the indexing I think.

I've connected my NAS to the router, and through my computer cable & wireless I can access my NAS. wireless transfer speed is around 2mb/s and with cable it's around 9mb/s.

My first batch of transfers were on 20gb and that seems to have gone well, I can access the files through my xbox 360 video player etc.

However when I tried to throw in a bigger chunk (150gb) all the files in that map vanished or rather I couldn't see any files in that folder using my xbox anymore. I thought i could have he UPnP forced to reindex the whole thing, but no luck there. My only option as I see it is, reboot, refresh UPnP and test upload a file until it's visible in that folder, and then work my way through slowly.

If anyone has a solution I'd appreciate the help. My friend who has a synology said my problem could have something to do with overloading the index-file and thus killing it.
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cable2

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Re: UPnP Auto Refresh
« Reply #11 on: December 18, 2011, 12:44:58 PM »

Hi,
I am running firmware 2.02.  I just had a similar problem with about 40 gb of audio files.   The entire media server was not accessible and when I checked out the settings in the GUI, the % of updated files was jumping up and down every few seconds between about 50% and down to 20% and back up again over and over.  Tried restarting, no luck.  Finally, I did a complete hard shutdown and then went back in the settings and did a "refresh all" and that has seemed to do the trick.  But, you have to wait until the refresh completes and it takes a long time, the more files the longer the time. You will know when it completes when the hard drive activity lights stop blinking.  That is what worked for me anyhow.  Good luck.
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ionizer

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Re: UPnP Auto Refresh
« Reply #12 on: December 18, 2011, 04:11:35 PM »

yes, whenever i do a manual refresh, it takes a long time, but it does then work

but since I have files auto downloaded for tv shows and whatnot which then get stored on the NAS drive, having to do this manually defeats the whole auto-process I have in place.

I am not sure if the issue is simply because of the size of the index or if there is an actual bug

it does seem like people are more likely to experience this when they have a lot of files and/or large size of the files to find.

I am really hoping WD will prioritize this issue since it defeats the whole UPNP aspects of this device, making it nothing more than a storage location and the upnp worthless.  at the VERY LEAST allow us to refresh on some scheduled basis, if they can't initially figure out the bug with why it doesn't automatically detect changes and index appropriately.
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Re: UPnP Auto Refresh
« Reply #13 on: December 19, 2011, 06:22:36 AM »

Hi Ionizer,
I have no solutions but a bunch of questions.  Are you using the p2p function to download your TV stuff?  Do these downloads create a new folder along with the download file are are the files just added to an existing folder?  I am assuming the downloaded files are in a folder which is part of the upnp selection and you are not then copying the downloaded files to another folder, is this correct?  If you do then transfer them to another folder (part of the upnp) do the files then show up?
I did some experimenting earlier, as I generally did not have a problem with a few files showing up when added to an already existing folder but noticed that multiple GB transfers included in a new folder did not.  I did not further experiment as large file transfers such a long time.
The thing is, I am afraid Dlink is not going to jump on this UPNP problem for a long time, so a work around might be a solution for you for the time being.  I would be tempted to try and use the backup function to tranfer your download folder to another location periodically, once or twice a day just to see if this will trigger the Auto Refresh function.  Anyway, that is all I can think of for the time being.  Good luck.
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saithan

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Re: UPnP Auto Refresh
« Reply #14 on: December 19, 2011, 09:58:51 AM »

I don't seem to have any luck with the "application management >> UPnP >> Refresh all", or have I gone completely wrong. I tried to make a scan test, but SMART didn't help either.

Uploading files batch by batch only helps to a certain point, after that the problem occurs again, somewhere between movies starting with the letter K - R is when it dies... All movies are sorted into folders and stuff..
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