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Author Topic: Incorporating a Dir-655 wireless router into a hardwired lan  (Read 10636 times)

GoldnGate

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Incorporating a Dir-655 wireless router into a hardwired lan
« on: February 27, 2009, 02:45:06 PM »

I am seeking information about incorporating a Dir-655 into a hardwired lan configuration.

I currently have the following confirguration.

1) Motorola Cable Modem
cabled to:
2) Dlink RT32p2 broadband router with 2 lan ports
cabled to: motorola vonage digital phone adapter
cabled to: smc7008abr router <wan port"
3) Smc7008abr
cabled to: 8 various locations within facility
cabled to: netgear ds-108 hub.
4) Netgear ds-108
cabled to: 7 various locations within facility

My question remains can I or how can I incorporate the Dlink Dir-655 into the aforementioned configuration so to have wireless access for laptops.
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EddieZ

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Re: Incorporating a Dir-655 wireless router into a hardwired lan
« Reply #1 on: February 27, 2009, 02:58:43 PM »

It might help if you included a network diagram ánd a location map. We could advise to put it at the door, but there's a reasonable chance none of the laptops are in the vicinity...
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ttmcmurry

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Re: Incorporating a Dir-655 wireless router into a hardwired lan
« Reply #2 on: February 28, 2009, 07:02:19 AM »

Keeping in mind the DIR-655 is a home consumer device and isn't intended to be used in a business environment....

Connect a computer, wired to port 1 on the dir-655 and do this in sequence:

1)  You may wish to 'downgrade' the firmware to 1.11*
2)  Set the wireless settings first (SSID, Security, Channel, etc)
3)  Set the admin & user passwords to the DIR-655
4)  Assuming your router has these features, disable the QoS, SPI, DNS Relay.
5)  Disable the 655's DHCP server.
6)  Set the router's IP address to something outside of your company's DHCP pool.

That should get you up and going.  You may need to manually set your laptop's IP address after step 5 so you can complete step 6. 

Last thing you'd do is connect Port 1 of the DIR-655 to any ethernet cable on your LAN.  Do not use the WAN port!

* This is a very stable feature-complete edition.  The newer versions, while good, may introduce unnecessary features or reliability risks that may be unacceptable to you.  If you get a DIR-655 with HW version A4 or higher you will not be able to use 1.11.
« Last Edit: February 28, 2009, 07:06:15 AM by ttmcmurry »
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gajets

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Re: Incorporating a Dir-655 wireless router into a hardwired lan
« Reply #3 on: February 28, 2009, 08:26:17 PM »

you want the DIR-655 to act as an access point.

Very simple,
 leave the WAN UNCONNECTED with default setting.
and connect any one of the 4 other regular ports to your network.

thats all, that is what I do. I uses a different & more advanced router to connect to the internet.
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ttmcmurry

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Re: Incorporating a Dir-655 wireless router into a hardwired lan
« Reply #4 on: March 01, 2009, 07:30:41 PM »

leave the WAN UNCONNECTED with default setting.

thats all, that is what I do. I uses a different & more advanced router to connect to the internet.

While simple, it's too simple and leave a huge gaping security hole in the network.  The poster indicated this is for use at a business location; and as such is a bad practice to leave a WAP unsecured.
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lotacus

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Re: Incorporating a Dir-655 wireless router into a hardwired lan
« Reply #5 on: March 02, 2009, 12:21:12 PM »

leaving the WAN port disconnected is not a security whole. That's like saying disconnecting your ethernet cable from the network is a security hole.

if it's a business environment, and he's wanting to use the dlink as an access point / switch, then it's obvious he has some other firewall in place, weather it's integrated into his DC or has a rackmount dedicated hardware firewall or simliar.

So if he wanted wireless access, normal security practice would be employed for wireless security, the DHCP server will be disabled, and he would have to make a decision on where to put the router within his network setup, But definatly behind the firewall.

He currently has his network seperated in two segments (minus the voip), so it depends WHO he wants to access the wireless network. He will only be able to have one, but not both, since the dir-655 does not support vlans. OR he would use the wan port, configure local address in the internet setup page, and set a two or 3 static routes, which then wireless clients will be on a differnet subnet.
« Last Edit: March 02, 2009, 12:31:30 PM by lotacus »
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smlunatick

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Re: Incorporating a Dir-655 wireless router into a hardwired lan
« Reply #6 on: March 02, 2009, 12:28:49 PM »

The security "hole" are within the DIR-655 wireless network section.  If no wireless access protection (such as WPA2) is used, anyone with the radius of the 655 wireless antenna broadcast range will "piggy-back" onto the business network.  This is a severe security breach.
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lotacus

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Re: Incorporating a Dir-655 wireless router into a hardwired lan
« Reply #7 on: March 02, 2009, 07:11:03 PM »

you must have misread the replies. There is no mention of leaving the wireless encryption disabled.
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EddieZ

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Re: Incorporating a Dir-655 wireless router into a hardwired lan
« Reply #8 on: March 03, 2009, 01:29:02 AM »

The question as I understand it is about where to put the DIR655 in the network. This will affect the config, so in order to give a sensible reply a bit more info is required. But I could be mistaken ofcourse...
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lotacus

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Re: Incorporating a Dir-655 wireless router into a hardwired lan
« Reply #9 on: March 03, 2009, 02:39:31 AM »

well he just wanted information on incorporating it. which is a pretty broad question. But yes, numerous scenerios can be suggested, but not very useful to run-'n-gun posters.
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gajets

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Re: Incorporating a Dir-655 wireless router into a hardwired lan
« Reply #10 on: March 03, 2009, 04:34:22 AM »

you want the DIR-655 to act as an access point.

Very simple,
 leave the WAN UNCONNECTED with default setting.
and connect any one of the 4 other regular ports to your network.

thats all, that is what I do. I uses a different & more advanced router to connect to the internet.


Maybe I kept it to short,
NO DHCP on dir 655,
YES there is wireless security on the dir-655.
Yes there is a much better and secure Wired router.
without the wan port, I uses the DIR-655 simply as a access point and a switch, nothing else.

If I wanted a vlan, I would use my prosafe netgear switches for that purpose.

I use the dir-655 as an access point simply because wireless routers are cheaper than dedicated access points and you get a 4 port switch as well.


the original question was simply "how do I add wireless to an existing wired LAN using the dir-655" ,
 some people then read a lot more into his needs and complicated the whole thing.
 
« Last Edit: March 03, 2009, 04:37:36 AM by gajets »
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EddieZ

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Re: Incorporating a Dir-655 wireless router into a hardwired lan
« Reply #11 on: March 03, 2009, 04:38:32 AM »

Like it was replied: the question leaves a lot of room for interpretation, the most simple answer would be:
- Plug in the wire to the wall socket
- plug in an ethernet cable from the modem to the WAN port
- plug in an ethernet cable to the LAN port
- Plug in the other end of that cable to either a PC or switch.

But I guess you've already thought of that.  ;)
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Lycan

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Re: Incorporating a Dir-655 wireless router into a hardwired lan
« Reply #12 on: March 03, 2009, 08:44:40 AM »

Better yet, use the 655 as it's intended. The GATEWAY device. Ditch the OLD as dirt SMC7004ABR. (seriously that router has to be 8 years old.) Use the 655 as your new gateway and replace those hubs with switches. Gigabit ones, for cheap. Seriously.
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