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[FurryNutz]

Well you on a fast ISP cable line, you shouldn't be seeing any issues with gaming on the modem and using the router. If you can collect any more info, then you can try to have them escalate it. I agree, there acceptable ranges are probably out of bounds for gaming and thats not right. Does video streaming exhibit the same? If so then this is more eggs in your basket to complain to them. It's unfortunate that they know they are the only ISP for you and mainly have you lock in to anything they say. 

[Lotus]

I don't have any trouble with streaming.

I have been seeing a lot of "pixeling" on my HD channels but I haven't called them. Its happened before and all they do is switch boxes, check the line, etc. and it usually clears up when they switch out boxes. It wont be worth taking a  half day off of work for honestly.

[XS]

Just an FYI, a lot of people are complaining about lag in MW3 even with the best and fastest internet out there. 

I really don't know how other games play on line since I never played Halo on online, I don't remember MW2 and in Bops if playing solo, the game ran really good (very little lag), however with a full party I would see lag a lot more. MW3 is 50/50 for me.

Here is a thread about lag issues on MW3:
http://community.callofduty.com/thread/200404485?start=0&tstart=0

Anyway good luck!

[Lotus]

I stalk that forum also . I have theater turned off. Someone mentioned it might help by not having it record your gameplay all of the time if your connection isn't great. It's possible that isn't a proven statement but I turned it off anyway. I might turn it back on to see if it makes any difference now since I reset my router settings.

Actually, for me, Halo 3 and Reach are almost unplayable also with my country connection. MW2 & Black Ops weren't as bad for some reason but boy, MW3 is rated the same as H3/Reach with the dang sensitive connection/lag/host crap.

I will say, playing Big Team (16 players) in any of those games, was horrible for me.

I was addicted to H3 back in the day. Mainly Lonewolves and Team Slayer. See, at one time (about in 2009) my connection was kicking butt. I was ranking on up. Got 2 accounts ranked up to about 41 for one and a 40 for the other.........all in about 2 months time. I was pinging heads and t-bagging. lol. My shots were on the money and you couldn't out BR me. I loved it. One day, I signed on and it was like someone had flipped off the light switch. I could not get a kill no matter how hard I tried. Sadly, I finally got to a 45 and quit playing. The frustration wasn't worth it. I moved over to MW2.

I don't know what happened and my ISP said there was nothing wrong. I know something is wrong. It would be different if I never knew what its like having your shots register like they are suppose to. But I DO know. I had the godly connection for about 3-4 months (out of 8 years) and it was the most awesome feeling I've ever had gaming.

That's why I try to squeeze as much out of anything I can just to get a few ms on my side these days.

[FurryNutz]

I really would push this up and get it escalated.  If you had good gaming back then and now you don't, means something they have done or something the ISP needs to look into.

[XS]

Well, noticed the other day, my Xbox had a (not so) random port number assigned to it 16621 and not the standard port number 3074.  
I reset my settings on the the Xbox to factory settings and restarted the Xbox and it was back to using port 3074 for gaming.
I checked my son Xbox and it was using a different (not so) random port number 17510.  I reset all settings on everything a few times and no matter what I did, I could not get both Xbox's at the same time to use port 3074 this time around.  If my Xbox was using port 3074, my sons Xbox was using port 17510.  If his Xbox was using port 3074, my Xbox would use port 16621.  The two random ports would always be the same so that is why I say "not so" random port.  I guess the good news the router is consistent on using the same random port number for each Xbox,  I checked this a few times and it would always use 2 of these 3 port numbers.  

Anyway I change my GF rules for ports 0-65535 right now on local and remote side to avoid any more issues with the router using random ports.  If theses random ports remain static on each Xbox I may just create a rule for each one since I feel when you just set a rule for a single local port vs. a whole port range, the router performs better.  Does anyone else have feedback on which is better?

[FurryNutz]

I currently use 3074 only, however I haven't been able to test more that one xbox since I'm the only one at my house now playing xbox. I do have another xbox I could put on line and just connect to a game I guess and see. I presume the random ports are used to to the fact that maybe only one device on the out going can use a specific port, so if multiple xboxes are online and connect, I presume that one should connect to 3074 and the other connects to a random port which the router and XBL sets up in some fashion.  

[XS]

Yeah, that is what I was thinking, the odd thing is even if I just had one Xbox running, it would still be using the random port number even though port 3074 was not being used, the only way I could get each Xbox to switch back port 3074 was to restore factory default settings in the Xbox dashboard.
All in all its not that big of deal as long as the router uses these same random port numbers.  I can set up GF rules/port forwarding just as easy on these other ports as I can on port 3074 as long as they don't change, lol.

Here is a funny story, When I noticed my Xbox using this random port, I reset everything so it would start using port 3074 again.  I played two games and put up 2-3 KDR games, stopped playing for an hour and played two more games and put up the same numbers!  I was oh yeah! the lag is fixed and then I played the next day and it was right back to how it was, lol. I don't know why part of me thinks there is some magic thing I can do that is going to change the lag issues even though I KNOW better.

[FurryNutz]

I think it's more like PEBKAC  

Besides we seems to play pretty good last weekend. I had a great time.

[XS]

LOL, you mean PEBKAC?   yeah right more like  PEBXAEU-Problem exist between XBL and end user!  Meaning IW/Activision...

Yeah that's because you camped it up, lol.  well at least we won every game.  Too bad I could only get 3 games in!

[FurryNutz]

I love camping, it pisses the other team off.  Need to work on playing more SIR! 

[XS]

Funny reading through this whole thread 3 months later and read about yourself discover how the router uses ports etc. LOL.

Well it has been two weeks and my sons Xbox is always using port 17510 regardless if my Xbox is on or off.  The only way I can get his xbox to use port 3074 is to make sure my Xbox is off and to restore factory network settings via Xbox dashboard.

Anyway, reading through this thread again, I noticed in my screenshots that when each Xbox was using port 3074 at the same time on the local side (router), my modem would only allow one Xbox to use port 3074. So if his Xbox had port 3074 on the WAN and local side my Xbox would have port 33030 (WAN side) and if my Xbox had port 3074 on the WAN/local side his Xbox would have port 21636 on the internet WAN side.

So this makes me wonder since my router will not allow both Xbox's to use port 3074 at the same time anymore that it may be possible it will use another random port # besides port 17510 or 16621 like port 21636 or 33030.  However I have yet to see my router use any port besides 3074, 17510 or 16621 on the local side, so this is all speculation.

Anyway, I still have GF rules set up to cover all ports on both local and remote side for piece of mind.  I highly suggest if you are running multiple Xbox's is to check your internet sessions frequently to know what ports each Xbox is using and set up your GF rules accordingly or just set up GF rules for all ports and call it a day.