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[FurryNutz]

I'll see what I can do. Might have JavaLawyer help me on this. He's done a great job on the DNS forums. 

[XS]

Furry,
yeah I have another router but its an older linksys WRH54 not sure it would even work since it is not a gigabit router.

Harry,
I agree there is conflicting info about PT/PF and I think you nailed it on the head about that portforward website.  However PT/PF is a whole thread on its own, lol.

Anyway back on topic,  right now I have a couple concerns.  One is the random port that could be used by one of the Xbox's when we are both playing.  I have no idea why or how it happened that day or how frequent this happens.

Now I do not feel comfortable setting up the GF rules for only local port 3074.  This leaves me with two options.
1. Set the ports for local and remote to 0-65535.
2. Set the local ports to 0-65535 and the remote ports to 3074.

If option 1 is used, than ALL traffic will be prioritized and I think I recall seeing data that showed this not to be the best or most effective way to manage traffic.  Who knows this may even cause lag with MW3 being so sensitive.

If option 2 is used, what is the deal with the other traffic on the other ports during game play, is it actual game traffic or something else? (see my post at the top of page 3)
Also, I noticed there is gaming traffic on local port 3074 (17510) but it using a different port than 3074 on the internet side, is this actual gaming traffic since it originate from local port 3074?  If so with option 2 in the GF rules this traffic will not be prioritized....

So what is the best set up for GF with multiple Xbox's if there is a chance one of them will be using a random port instead of port 3074?

I have all ports covered both local and remote right now and I feel the connection is not as good when I had the GF set up per the XBL sticky but it is hard to tell and could be a placebo effect. 

Thoughts?

[FurryNutz]

I can send you one of mine if your interested.

[XS]

I could give that older linksys a try and see what happens and keep checking the logs to see if one of the Xbox's is using a different port when we play together.  Who knows maybe it was a one time thing...........

[FurryNutz]

could at least to see the port usage if it can track that like DLink does.

[XS]

Okay, here is another screen shot during game play last night,  note the IP address in the red box under internet column.  Since I saw one of my Xbox using a random port instead of port 3074, it got me wondering if other people playing XBL have the same issue where one of Xbox is using a random port instead of 3074?  If so, then if you have your GF rules set up per the sticky those XBoxs will have normal priority since they are using a different port.  Now what does that do during game play if our router (DGL-4500) has that particular Xbox set to priority to 128 and the others ones to 1?

Anyway, I looked up the IP address that are outline in red and provided their host information, I am new to all this so I could be totally wrong and I may just be over analyzing this but the IP address look like other Xbox's.  Maybe someone with more network knowledge can chime in.  BTW, I have my GF set up for all ports both on local and remote side so that is why the priority is working in the screen shot.

Hostname: c-98-245-200-149.hsd1.co.comcast.net
Hostname: sc-cm-static-69-24-212-74.sumnercomm.net
Hostname: 165.95.254.226 TAMUK-gw.ttvn.tamus.edu >college station
Hostname: ip68-225-161-8.ok.ok.cox.net>Cox communications
Hostname: a184-86-221-XXX.deploy.akamaitechnologies.com  >ISP Provider: AKAMAI TECHNOLOGIES

[FurryNutz]

I would presume those are connecting relay IPs for those random ports that the xbox uses when the router doesn't assign it the 3074 port and uses a different random port. This is interesting for sure. Must say, thank you XS for all the foot work your doing. 

[XS]

No problem, I think all household with multiple Xbox will assign a random port on the WAN side (modem) for every Xbox that is turned on after the first Xbox, looking at your buddies screen shots his .31 Xbox has the correct port on the local side, 3074 but on the WAN side (modem) it changes to 49930.
So what does this traffic mean to our DGL-4500?

I am not sure if my router messed the ports up or my modem on the local side.  Is it possible my router tried to use local port 3074 but my modem blocked one of them so the router had to use a different port???

Anyway if you are not seeing this random port issue, you may want to set your local port to 3074 and in the remote port range, change it to 1-65535 and see what happens.

I am going to try this weekend as well when I have time because the way I have GF set up right now, I sware I see more lag and I am doing worse in game. Its probably coincedence though, lol.

[FurryNutz]

Want to try a different router and see? 

[XS]

Thanks for the offer furry, I will keep that option in mind.  I may have another challenge to deal with besides time, my sons XBL expired yesterday so I may be done running tests for now.  However if he renews it, I would like to see these random ports happen again before swapping out the router or modem.  Maybe something was messed up in my Xbox network settings and when I restored the factory settings in fixed it, too many variables.

[FurryNutz]

I know...what modem do you have again? SB what?

[XS]

Cisco Model DPQ3212 8x4 DOCSIS 3.0 Cable Modem, you barfed last time you saw this, lol.

[FurryNutz]

Thats why I forgot what you had. 

I have a spare SB 6121 and a 6120 for loan as well. 

[XS]

LOL, yeah I can't find any thing bad about the modem on google and I even think Harry said it was pretty good. Very limited info on it.
Anyway I will also keep that in mind, I was thinking about buying one of those Modems but speed is usually not the issue.  My ping fluctuates at peak times but I am still getting what I pay for so I am sure if it will be a waste of money to buy one.

[FurryNutz]

Never hurts to have a spare on hand though.  

SB 6120 Bonding 4x4, orginal case.

SB 6121 Bonding 4x4 New case and a MoCA filter <Something end users would need to be concerned about?
Well unless they have a whole home DVR or something that uses MoCA, then no.

SB 6180 Bonding 8x4 New case, no filter.