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Author Topic: MAC Filtering/Network Filter and the Guest Zone  (Read 5981 times)

PSCGOhio

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MAC Filtering/Network Filter and the Guest Zone
« on: July 22, 2012, 07:54:25 AM »

207.NA Firmware, B1 Hardware in use on a DIR-655, Time Warner Cable setup.  Nothing to do with Revision, cordless phones, Ethernet cable types, rebooting or anything else - just the 2 issues below:

  I saw this asked once before specifically here, but it was never answered...

  After several attacks via our cable network and neighbors, we've HAD to turn on MAC filtering.  There are TONS of devices attached normally so two situations popped up:

  #1:  What happens when you max out the authorized MAC address listings?  Does the page get longer when you save/reboot it?  Do I have to do it manually from there forward and where can I get down to the core programming level to edit the code and put the MAC's that are around and on 100% of the time to open up the plug-in list on the GUI?

  #2:  Guest Zone - we NEED a way to have random guests get on our Network with a different password we can randomly change to help prevent the outside abuse, etc. but am I understanding what little else has been posted that the MAC filtering also covers the Guest Zone and therefore I have to stick them in there before they could simply log on with the current password?  Is there any way to change/stop that without eliminating MAC filtration as a whole?
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davevt31

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Re: MAC Filtering/Network Filter and the Guest Zone
« Reply #1 on: July 22, 2012, 10:09:43 AM »

#1 - Once the page is filled up, that's it no more entries.  The source code is encrypted so you can't reporgram it to add more entries.

#2- I didn't think the Guest Zone was effected by the MAC filtering, but may be wrong on that.
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Re: MAC Filtering/Network Filter and the Guest Zone
« Reply #2 on: July 22, 2012, 10:19:07 AM »


207.NA Firmware, B1 Hardware in use on a DIR-655, Time Warner Cable setup.  Nothing to do with Revision, cordless phones, Ethernet cable types, rebooting or anything else - just the 2 issues below:

  I saw this asked once before specifically here, but it was never answered...

  After several attacks via our cable network and neighbors, we've HAD to turn on MAC filtering.  There are TONS of devices attached normally so two situations popped up:

  #1:  What happens when you max out the authorized MAC address listings?  Does the page get longer when you save/reboot it?  Do I have to do it manually from there forward and where can I get down to the core programming level to edit the code and put the MAC's that are around and on 100% of the time to open up the plug-in list on the GUI? From my understanding, these home user routers use a pool of memory that is available for users to use for the routers options. I've seen it when MAC filters get more than several needed or a users uses up all available slots, thats it and thats all thats available. I believe since these routers or designed for home end users that there is a limited number of options and memory pool available to use. Most home end users on average have only a few or a handful of devices connected. So theres not alot of call for unlimited resources that the home end user would probably not be using. Would be a waste of resources. If your needing unlimited resources in a router then maybe finding a different model or Mfr will result in something that fits your needs.

  #2:  Guest Zone - we NEED a way to have random guests get on our Network with a different password we can randomly change to help prevent the outside abuse, etc. but am I understanding what little else has been posted that the MAC filtering also covers the Guest Zone and therefore I have to stick them in there before they could simply log on with the current password?  Is there any way to change/stop that without eliminating MAC filtration as a whole?
As a suggestion, you may want to get a additional DAP model device or a older router turned into an AP, that has say Wireless G only and put it on line using a different subnet and use this as your guest zone AP. This might help you keep, maintain and manage Guests on there own AP, leaving the main safe and secure.
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Re: MAC Filtering/Network Filter and the Guest Zone
« Reply #3 on: July 22, 2012, 10:58:35 AM »


  I was fearing both of those answers, the subnet may be possible to help with several issues.  I have an older router that'd cut the mustard with a lengthy MAC setup but it's a b/g.  May have to research other ideas.

  So there's no way to edit this router directly?  I mean manually insert commands?  I know I've had that on Linksys's before, obviously stated that you should know what you're doing before you mess with that zone on them.  Since I've admin'ed Linux servers before I'm familiar with it, but never had this much of a need before.  I'm guessing the DIR-655's a model without that option anywhere?  Not through another IP or port on it?
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Re: MAC Filtering/Network Filter and the Guest Zone
« Reply #4 on: July 22, 2012, 11:03:14 AM »

That older router would probably work well for a guest zone.

All Dlink routers don't allow any sort of user editing with in the FW code or use commands. Some DLink routers have been developed for use with 3rd party FW like WRT and such. These FWs have some options for this.
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