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Author Topic: More NTP service musings...  (Read 19483 times)

Demonized

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Re: More NTP service musings...
« Reply #15 on: July 04, 2009, 07:22:18 AM »

1.31 did show these time-symptoms (lagging behind), 1.32 does not anymore.
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partach1

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Re: More NTP service musings...
« Reply #16 on: July 04, 2009, 07:52:51 AM »

did you see the picture with the version displayed? it clearly says 1.32.....
Hence 1.32 does....
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Johnnyboy!

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Re: More NTP service musings...
« Reply #17 on: July 04, 2009, 09:02:03 AM »

Well, just to be sure, for now do not use pool.ntp.org. There is too much uncertainty about that NTP service with the dlink routers.

For now, just stick with the default D-Link NTP service, because honestly, there is no frickin' difference. That should prevent your router restarts.

jB
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Demonized

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Re: More NTP service musings...
« Reply #18 on: July 04, 2009, 09:23:57 AM »


For now, just stick with the default D-Link NTP service, because honestly, there is no frickin' difference. That should prevent your router restarts.

jB

That's the best solution, but some peeps seem to get off on finding things that make a router crash (which really isn't that hard, with any brand)  :D
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partach1

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Re: More NTP service musings...
« Reply #19 on: July 04, 2009, 10:08:05 AM »

Demonized would you just quit the innuendo, having this router is bad enough.

ntp=ntp=ntp
using time servers from ntp.pool.org for decades, always worked fine. Other client in my network uses it for two years now, never crashed once.
just trying to use a localized freakin server, too bad dlink makes up their own ntp protocol (which I doubt).

as shown before the router handles time incorrectly, let's just let them make a fix for that as demonized said it was in 131 and I have shown it is in 132 as well (never used 131 myself)
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Demonized

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Re: More NTP service musings...
« Reply #20 on: July 04, 2009, 03:27:01 PM »

Demonized would you just quit the innuendo, having this router is bad enough.

ntp=ntp=ntp
using time servers from ntp.pool.org for decades, always worked fine. Other client in my network uses it for two years now, never crashed once.
just trying to use a localized freakin server, too bad dlink makes up their own ntp protocol (which I doubt).

as shown before the router handles time incorrectly, let's just let them make a fix for that as demonized said it was in 131 and I have shown it is in 132 as well (never used 131 myself)

That's really too bad, my DIR655 works really great. So no innuendo, you having the problem does not automatically make it a bad router, it takes a bit more to achieve that status. And I've never seen a badly designed machine perform very well as an exception. Have you?
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GullyFoyle

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Re: More NTP service musings...
« Reply #21 on: July 05, 2009, 04:47:54 AM »

That's really too bad, my DIR655 works really great. So no innuendo, you having the problem does not automatically make it a bad router, it takes a bit more to achieve that status. And I've never seen a badly designed machine perform very well as an exception. Have you?

What does that even mean?
Yes some badly designed machines do in fact perform really well. Certain remotes for example seem not to be designed as intuitively user friendly but do exceptional jobs once the user adjusts.
Old Corvair cars, and 80's Subarus with the faulty body metal.
And the Bumble bee.
I would say your perfect router is the exception NOT the rule. That is further confirmed by the poll on router problems.
« Last Edit: July 05, 2009, 04:55:27 AM by GullyFoyle »
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Demonized

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Re: More NTP service musings...
« Reply #22 on: July 05, 2009, 07:41:22 AM »

What does that even mean?
Yes some badly designed machines do in fact perform really well. Certain remotes for example seem not to be designed as intuitively user friendly but do exceptional jobs once the user adjusts.
Old Corvair cars, and 80's Subarus with the faulty body metal.
And the Bumble bee.
I would say your perfect router is the exception NOT the rule. That is further confirmed by the poll on router problems.


Yeah, it's a very reliable poll; 10 people with issues out of 100.000+ sold devices...wow. Statistically that's what they call 'marginal'.

Because you're device is troublesome it really does not prove all 100.000 devices are defects or the design is flawed. That's a very self centered conclusion and calling a well functioning device the exception is based on very thin air.

Just figure out the math: how many people visiting the forum have claimed they have an issue and how many just come here to say Hi and have no issues? 99% are issue people, you can count them if you like. So a poll will reflect this number and therefore the poll result will say 99% has an issue. It's a false conclusion to take that result and qualify the router as 'design flawed'. Emperically this falls in the category "the earth is flat".
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lizzi555

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Re: More NTP service musings...
« Reply #23 on: July 05, 2009, 11:42:02 AM »

... Emperically this falls in the category "the earth is flat".

It's not ?
 :o
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Demonized

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Re: More NTP service musings...
« Reply #24 on: July 05, 2009, 04:42:12 PM »

We can talk about it if you want...  ;D
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lizzi555

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Re: More NTP service musings...
« Reply #25 on: July 06, 2009, 07:48:07 AM »

Don't know why you all "fight" aggressively for a statement that is only to be seen relatively.

There are DIR-655 in special environment and/or use which don't work propperly. This is fact.

But there are also 655 working flawlessly as mine. It only needed one restart since the last firmware because I exchanged the WAN connection from cable modem to DSL modem. (To test 655 and 855 in both scenarios).

The number of working and not working routers doesn't matter. If there is a problem, it has to be solved.
In this case , I think it is D-Link's work to release a firmware which is stable in all environments.
That's all !

btw.
The "flat earth" was a joke and I read the answer as a joke too.
Not all is meant seriously...
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Demonized

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Re: More NTP service musings...
« Reply #26 on: July 06, 2009, 07:53:38 AM »

CENSORED

Looking at your vocabulary you are not really a civilized person. You're seeing things that aren't there and seem to have a problem understanding emoticons. 
Thanks lizzi555 for understanding, we were indeed just having some fun.

I'm sorry I'm ruining your Dlink bashing though.  :P

PS: your 'smite' score is getting close to mine, but without the number 'applauds'. Howcome...?

*** Modified by Fatman because I didn't see a point in keeping that quote around.  Truthfully I am not even sure why I am leaving the response to it, other than not having the same level of reason to remove it.
« Last Edit: July 06, 2009, 09:28:19 AM by Fatman »
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Fatman

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Re: More NTP service musings...
« Reply #27 on: July 06, 2009, 09:37:38 AM »

Lets keep things friendly guys, no blows below tha waist.  We tend to tolerate heated discussions as long as they don't turn personal or make one unreasonable, both happened here, so we won't be hearing from GullyFoyle for 3 days.  At the same time I want to remind everyone that non-constructive threads get locked eventually and that if you all just want to duke it out, head outside please.
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