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Author Topic: REALLY REALLY need WAN Bandwidth Monitoring...  (Read 23805 times)

anon

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Re: REALLY REALLY need WAN Bandwidth Monitoring...
« Reply #15 on: July 09, 2009, 12:33:18 PM »

This will probably not happen. Unless Comcast makes it a requirement for routers that are on their network to offer this feature. I can ask if you like but the odds of something like this being added are slim.
 As for caps on bandwidth, it only usually happens by large cable networks where they know they are the only venue for that pipe size in town. For instance in Huntington Beach, Ca Time Warner is doing battle with Verizon for customers. Neither would dream of capping download, as it would create a flow of customers to the other ISP.

Caps in general are wrong, changing our hardware to allow ISP's to be greedy is wrong. As I previously stated, I'd go with a slower DSL connection before I ever let an ISP tell me what to do with my bandwidth.

Lastly if an ISP is going to make a cap on their network, then THEY should provide you with a way to monitor the account via a web portal or at the modem itself, thats like having a bank account and not being able to check the balance. Expecting 3rd party vendors that have nothing to do with the ISP to handle this for you is kinda silly. If the ISP can see your monthly download, then they need to make that available to you. Not doing so and busting you for it seems like entrapment to me.

So true...
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swears

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Re: REALLY REALLY need WAN Bandwidth Monitoring...
« Reply #16 on: July 09, 2009, 04:24:48 PM »


Lastly if an ISP is going to make a cap on their network, then THEY should provide you with a way to monitor the account via a web portal or at the modem itself, thats like having a bank account and not being able to check the balance. Expecting 3rd party vendors that have nothing to do with the ISP to handle this for you is kinda silly. If the ISP can see your monthly download, then they need to make that available to you. Not doing so and busting you for it seems like entrapment to me.


Lycan, I totally agree w/ you that they shouldn't cap you, and if they do, should at least provide you with the means to monitor your usage. Unfortunately, I haven't heard of one ISP, nor have I ever had one, which provides this. Additionally, many ISPS won't even tell you what the maximum upload/download amount is, just that you went over it. Therefore, it would be extremely nice to have this feature.

I don't see it being that hard to implement. Currently, I am using 'BitMeter' which is a great little tool that tells you your statistics daily/monthly, even by the hour. The problem is, when I have my roomates coming in during the fall, I'm sure they are not going to want to install this and send me their stats every day, along w/ everyone else in the house. So, I'm sure you can understand the desire for this feature.
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Lycan

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Re: REALLY REALLY need WAN Bandwidth Monitoring...
« Reply #17 on: July 09, 2009, 04:29:51 PM »

I DO understand. Trust me. However it's not possible. There's not enough flash for that. I'm sorry guys.
For those of you dealing with CAPS, I suggest contacting the given ISP and voicing your complaints there.

They capped you, they need to allow you to monitor yourself. What if you didn't even have a router, how would you monitor it then? A 3rd party app? Thats ridiculous. A bank doesn't require you to use a 3rd party app to monitor your back account. That bandwidth is the same as your money, you pay for a certain amount of it within a month, they are responsible for informing you of your useage BEFORE disciplinary action is needed, not giving you enough rope to hang yourself with and then pointing fingers.
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Fatman

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Re: REALLY REALLY need WAN Bandwidth Monitoring...
« Reply #18 on: July 09, 2009, 04:37:20 PM »

Maybe if we pulled Shareport, SecureSpot, and WPS we would have space on the device.

How about a router that ONLY does (static and dynamic) routing and NAT, and keeps accurate counters.  DHCP, DNS Relay, IEEE802.11, QoS, and other silliness can hide somewhere else.
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Lycan

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Re: REALLY REALLY need WAN Bandwidth Monitoring...
« Reply #19 on: July 09, 2009, 04:43:07 PM »

1) Seriously?
2) Seriously, like for serious?

You know I'm against both those "features" however the likelyhood of those being removed to facilitate a feature only useful to specific number of users is unlikely. However the same argument could be made about the features in question.

Because Fatman makes a valid point I'll ask at the PM meeting if this is a possibility, but don't get your hopes up.

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Fatman

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Re: REALLY REALLY need WAN Bandwidth Monitoring...
« Reply #20 on: July 09, 2009, 04:46:15 PM »

I never knew you hated DHCP and IEEE 802.11 too!

Good Riddance!
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Re: REALLY REALLY need WAN Bandwidth Monitoring...
« Reply #21 on: July 09, 2009, 11:33:09 PM »

Isnt the feature already in the unit?  There is a WAN status metric giving packets sent/received between stats clear and you can clear it whenever you want...like monthly.  You have to do a little math since packet size cab vary but is normally around 1 to 1.5 kbits.  Maybe Dlink could modify the units of this metric to be cumulative Gbits instead of packets

Somrthing wrong with using this metric?
« Last Edit: July 09, 2009, 11:36:05 PM by SkyOwl »
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Coreburner

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Re: REALLY REALLY need WAN Bandwidth Monitoring...
« Reply #22 on: July 18, 2009, 08:47:09 AM »

Here in phoenix az I got a call from cox a month ago about bandwidth usage, while not limited to any amount here, they noticed a huge jump in usage.  I download ISO's all the time so hitting 200 400 gigs a month is normal for me but the noticed that I was average almost  13TB last month.  While I was on the phone i explained that was not even remotely possible with my cable speeds I ran CMsniff and found three cloned (uncapped) modem on my side of the CMTS node. Personaly I think internet speeds/prices are not propotional to what they need to be and I don't care either way about useing Capped-uncapped modems but if you going to, don't be greedy. 

Anyways download the app and looked for cloned modems that match yours cuz theyr'e out thier and extreamly easy to make.  I'm not sure why cox doesn't scan the node for these before they start accusing people of hogging bandwidth.
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Lycan

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Re: REALLY REALLY need WAN Bandwidth Monitoring...
« Reply #23 on: July 20, 2009, 08:50:42 AM »

I've made the request to have the feature added.
We'll see if it can be done.
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cedric205

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Re: REALLY REALLY need WAN Bandwidth Monitoring...
« Reply #24 on: July 20, 2009, 10:21:47 AM »

I've made the request to have the feature added.
We'll see if it can be done.
GOOD JOB Lycan
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swears

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Re: REALLY REALLY need WAN Bandwidth Monitoring...
« Reply #25 on: July 25, 2009, 07:11:08 AM »

Thanks Lycan. Hopefully this gets implemented.

In the meantime, I've stumbled upon a workaround for people who have an extra router that can run DD-WRT. It involves adding it between the modem and your current router.

Here is a link: http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/BWlog
http://www.dd-wrt.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=51278&sid=a0ac20f7cdc35939c4d4a6224d2d9b4a

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SuperW2

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Re: REALLY REALLY need WAN Bandwidth Monitoring...
« Reply #26 on: July 25, 2009, 09:17:56 PM »

Thanks Lycan. Hopefully this gets implemented.

In the meantime, I've stumbled upon a workaround for people who have an extra router that can run DD-WRT. It involves adding it between the modem and your current router.

Here is a link: http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/BWlog
http://www.dd-wrt.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=51278&sid=a0ac20f7cdc35939c4d4a6224d2d9b4a



I have another router (in a drawer) that does run DD-WRT and they have a very nice WAN Bandwidth montior...the DLink router just does everything else much better....so do I use a router with inferior WiFi and LAN performance but kick butt monitoring, or one that for the most part is solid in WiFi and LAN, but doesn't let me count the number of packets per month I'm sending or receiving...maybe I need to use both...

Sw2
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steve2551

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Re: REALLY REALLY need WAN Bandwidth Monitoring...
« Reply #27 on: September 10, 2009, 01:54:53 PM »

I've made the request to have the feature added.
We'll see if it can be done.

I have a DGL-4100 and was wondering if there were any status updates on the addition of bandwidth monitoring on the GamerLounge series routers.  I received the dreaded call from comcast 2 days ago (managed 1.576tb in the first 24 days of service with them) and I'm looking for a way to monitor my bandwidth so I can stay under the 250gb/month limit...
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Smith

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Re: REALLY REALLY need WAN Bandwidth Monitoring...
« Reply #28 on: September 11, 2009, 06:40:13 AM »

 ??? what comcast calls you if you use to much of the internet they call me i tell them to f*ck off how is this true
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Puffnstuff

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Re: REALLY REALLY need WAN Bandwidth Monitoring...
« Reply #29 on: September 11, 2009, 07:19:35 AM »

Yes if you read the revised terms of service policy you'll see that they will warn you then cut you off.  Before my oldest son moved out I know that we blew out the cap repeatedly and they never called me.  I have noticed that they have throttled my connection several times and its noticable.
« Last Edit: September 11, 2009, 03:13:41 PM by Puffnstuff »
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