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Author Topic: switching from LAN connectivity to plain old usb  (Read 22021 times)

Tikigod19

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switching from LAN connectivity to plain old usb
« on: July 10, 2015, 03:12:08 PM »

hi guys, I find the transfer rates to my gigabit lan connected share center is painful so I must have done something wrong. I'd like to try it via USB but when I plug it in it is not detected. Do I need to reformat the array or something to get it to be recognised via USB?
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masterxilef

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Re: switching from LAN connectivity to plain old usb
« Reply #1 on: July 11, 2015, 06:28:09 PM »

If by USB you mean you're connecting the DNS-320L via it's usb port to a usb port on your computer I'm afraid that's not gonna work. This is a pure NAS, wich means you can only connect it by network.

The usb port is for plugging usb hard drives or printers or things like that, like a usb port in your computer.

If you are having slow speeds on gigabit make sure you are using cat5e or cat6 network cable, and select auto or 1000 speed in the network settings of the nas.
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Tikigod19

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Re: switching from LAN connectivity to plain old usb
« Reply #2 on: July 12, 2015, 01:23:58 AM »

thank you for your reply. Is there any way of confirming the cable type by looking at it? I have my pc plugged into a gigabit switch and then the DNS-320L going straight into that switch. I suppose I could plug it directly into the PC to test if the issue is one of the cables or the switch, but would I need to reconfigure the DNS-320L to get the PC to detect it if I connect it directly with network cable to the PC?
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Re: switching from LAN connectivity to plain old usb
« Reply #3 on: July 12, 2015, 02:04:16 PM »

You shouldn't need to do anything except plug it in.

What does your OS show your connection speed at? How painful is painful?  And what does speedtest.net show?
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masterxilef

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Re: switching from LAN connectivity to plain old usb
« Reply #4 on: July 12, 2015, 03:20:56 PM »

By looking at the writing on the cable, it should say there. Something like "Cat. 5e" or "Cat. 6"
I guess you could connect it directly to your pc, then it would be a matter of finding the ip assigned to it.
Maybe using the setup software could work, can't really help you there, haven't tried it.

Also, good point, check if your pc is capable of gigabit.
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Re: switching from LAN connectivity to plain old usb
« Reply #5 on: July 13, 2015, 06:26:24 AM »

I recommend getting a external Gb LAN switch in between the DNS and router. This will help with speed as well. Routers can introduce some performance loss.
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Tikigod19

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Re: switching from LAN connectivity to plain old usb
« Reply #6 on: July 14, 2015, 12:24:16 AM »

FurryNutz thats exactly what Ive got..

DNS to a gigabit switch (with cat5e cable) and then the gigabit switch routes off downstairs for my router and xbox (via another hub) and also to a wireless range extender, plus obviously to the PC (again, Cat5e)

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masterxilef

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Re: switching from LAN connectivity to plain old usb
« Reply #7 on: July 14, 2015, 11:07:09 PM »

So what sort of speeds are you getting?
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Tikigod19

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Re: switching from LAN connectivity to plain old usb
« Reply #8 on: July 15, 2015, 01:23:09 AM »

it seems to fluctuate a lot. I just did a test on 80gb of data and I get 27mb/sec.

All I know is I copy to 2 external USB3 HDD's at the same time as my NAS. My externals generally take about an hour to receive a whole wedding, the nas takes closer to 2/3 hours and I need to leave my computer on and set to auto shut down well into the night sometimes to accomodate it. (So I'm thinking why not just get a USB 3 enclosure for the 2x 3TB HDD's in there if I cant sort this speed issue, as I dont really use the network capabilities of it mainly because its too slow!)
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Re: switching from LAN connectivity to plain old usb
« Reply #9 on: July 15, 2015, 09:30:38 AM »

What speeds do you get when doing only one drive at a time?
Are any other devices accessing the DNS when your copying?
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Re: switching from LAN connectivity to plain old usb
« Reply #10 on: July 15, 2015, 12:02:41 PM »

I get about 50mb/sec when copying directly to one external USB3 drive and no the NAS isn't being read by these drives when I copy them all simultaneously.
Also thinking about it I'm sure I get way way less than 27mb/sec when I'm copying eveyrthing together. Sometimes sub 10mb/sec
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Re: switching from LAN connectivity to plain old usb
« Reply #11 on: July 16, 2015, 07:28:20 AM »

I presumes that the DNS maybe performing to spec when copying both drives at the same time vs one drive at a time. If your seeing half of what you see when your only doing one drive then the DNS may not be capable of performing at 50Mb when doing both drives as it has to process both drives at the same time rather then one...thus transfer rates will diminish.
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Re: switching from LAN connectivity to plain old usb
« Reply #12 on: July 25, 2015, 03:07:08 PM »

ok chaps so here is a real world example of the speeds. I return home from a video shoot and copy the video files (143GB) from a USB3 external drive to:

1) another usb 3.0 drive - currently getting 33.7mb/s
2) an internal drive - currently 31.2mb/s
3) the DNS-320L - currently 2.44mb/s

Surely I'd be better with another usb 3 drive than this?
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masterxilef

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Re: switching from LAN connectivity to plain old usb
« Reply #13 on: July 25, 2015, 05:31:31 PM »

Well, looking at those speeds of course,
however, that is proof that there is a bottleneck in your setup, because even on 100mb (ie not gigabit) network you could in theory and practice achieve better speeds.
Hell, even a 2.0 usb hard drive will get 10x those speeds (usally about 25mb/s).

I currently use 100mb wired network and I easyly get between 10 and 11 mb/s which is the limit for my network, not the nas/hard drives.

Unfortunaly my main pc with gigabit died so I cannot test gigabit speeds.

When you did those tests, they were at the same time or separated?
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Re: switching from LAN connectivity to plain old usb
« Reply #14 on: July 25, 2015, 06:08:54 PM »

ok chaps so here is a real world example of the speeds. I return home from a video shoot and copy the video files (143GB) from a USB3 external drive to:

1) another usb 3.0 drive - currently getting 33.7mb/s
2) an internal drive - currently 31.2mb/s
3) the DNS-320L - currently 2.44mb/s

Surely I'd be better with another usb 3 drive than this?

Can you test again with just router to dns & router to pc (wired) and see what speeds you're getting?
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