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[ukwildcat4life]

evidently Tivo is no longer selling the action tech adapters that I use and here is a link to a smilier device that they are now selling on their website..... you can also just go to www.tivo.com and look under the shop category and look for the tivo bolt dvr and the tivo mini ( that's what I own) also my bolt and mini's have both ethernet ports and coax ports but I don't have ethernet running throughout my house so thats why I use MoCA; tivo doesn't support whole home streaming over wifi......here is the link below


https://www.tivo.com/shop/detail/bridge

[FurryNutz]

Have you tried this connection: not using the coax cable connections from the DVR to the Minis and use LAN cable instead? This is how my Hopper system is set up. However since I upgraded to H3, I need to check to see if MoCa is really working. I presume my H3 already had MoCA integrated and outputs it to the Joeys on the LAN cable. I do know that I can stream just fine from either joey which are LAN connected.

If your using a MoCa bridge, I presume that TiVo doesn't have MoCa already integrated into the units? I'm wondering if this bridge is needed with your current DVR? Sorry I don't know much about your system..reason for all the questions. Trying to find a test configuration that may work...

[ukwildcat4life]

I don't mind answering any questions you have about MoCA.....actually all of my Tivo units have MoCA built into them so all I need is the one MoCA adapter hooked up to my cable modem to create the MoCA network and then my units just join the MoCA network that I created with the adapter at the cable modem..........since one of my mini's is located in my bedroom next to my cable modem I did unhook the coax cable from it and I ran an ethernet cable from the mini to the router's LAN port and still had the connectivity problem.....I wanted to see if it was my MoCA network causing the problem with the router but since it exhibited the same behavior plugged directly into the router via ethernet and still had the same problem I was able to quickly rule out the MoCA was my problem.  Hope that info helps a little.......MoCA is a great thing actually especially for folks like me that need a wired, reliable connection in a home where ethernet is not available or installed in the walls........its much more reliable than wifi and that is one reason why Tivo does not design their whole home systems to use wifi to stream from one box to another........

[FurryNutz]

So here's what mine looks like:
http://www.dish.com/cedia/downloads/hopperjoeysystem_jobaid_v3.pdf
Scroll down still you find towards the bottom: Solo Node, 1 Hopper w/ Sling, 2 Wireless Joey, 1 WAP

The only thing different from this description, is that the Joeys are LAN wired (not wireless) to the Hopper via a network :AN switch and I don't have a the WAP. I believe that MoCA works for me in this configuration however I need to verify.  Netflix and other apps work from the joeys as far as I know currently. However the router is different. Will see possibly tonight as i'll try and pick up the 885L if it's in stock.

[ukwildcat4life]

Looks like a nice setup and your setup being wired I think would be much better and more reliable than if you had used the WAP.......I also think MoCA adapters would work in your situation.  Definitely want to know how your testing goes when you pick up the 885L.....keep me posted...thanks

[FurryNutz]

Ya, not sure if MoCa is included already with H3 or if I have to buy that extra. I do remember seeing MoCA icon on my TV in the bedroom all the time when I had the prior system.

No, I like running Joeys and any video steaming wired. Wireless works ok, but taking some precautions with WiFi, Wired is more stable and can handle the bandwidth.

Ya, I'll check it out and report.

[ukwildcat4life]

I couldn't agree more! going wired is always the way to go if at all possible.....looking forward to hearing your report on the 885L.........as for now mine is still doing good with my Tivo's, etc......

[FurryNutz]

Ok, 885L is online.
Hopper and Joeys using same configuration. Joeys LAN wired to Hopper then router.

I did check, the MoCA port is not being used on the Joey so I'll have to dig into the coax cabling this weekend or next week.

Checking Netflix. Streaming Minions now on one of the Joeys.

[FurryNutz]

Ok, got online with DISH and talked to a tech. Got more info about MoCA here. I'll need to connect the Joeys with Coax to the Hopper to get MoCA enabled. I'll check on this maybe this weekend or following week. For now, system is working with the 885L and not seeing any issues. I have all my devices connected and all seems well.

Using FW v1.00 out of box for now. 

[ukwildcat4life]

Sounds like the 885L is doing just fine with your Hopper and Joy system............wouldn't you know it I got to work tonight and I am still unable to access my router and Share port remotely .........here is the problem and its a little confusing so I will try and explain it the best that I can.......when I'm away from home and try to gain access to SP and Gui remotely it will work over 3g and over wifi that is from a different cable company from my own ISP......here at work they use the same ISP as I do at home but the only difference is that I had my modem bridged to just act as a modem with the routing turned off.......here at work its not like that; they use the cable modem and the router thats built in............here is the kicker.........my next door neighbors also use the same ISP as I do at home but they too have theirs bridged and use their own router.....if I go to their house and try to access my GUI and Sp it works.............something in the 885L is blocking me access if using the same ISP but without the modem being bridged.......you have any idea what would cause this? the Dlink tech tried to explain something about that to me called something loop?  I just can't understand why the 880L works fine........this may be a deal killer for me; I may have to return it after all ......I really thought I had gotten everything fixed on my day off Wednesday.......at least the splitter fixed the Tivos but not being able to access my router and Share port while at work is a deal killer ............I'm sure its got something to do with the firewall or ports being blocked..........James

[FurryNutz]

So before I left for work this morning. I enabled remote access on the 885L and set for port 8081 and HTTPS.

I got to work and I was able to see and access the routers web page. I don't have SP enabled as if yet as I didn't set up a USB drive last nite. 

[ukwildcat4life]

By chance does your work use the same ISP?  the only place I'm having a problem accessing is at my work but the use the same ISP as I do at home.........mine is also set up for port 8081 and https..........it worked fine on the 880L but not on the 885L...........one thing I noticed is that MAC address I had cloned had been lost; when we reboot the cable modem and router it had lost that setting so I've re cloned it so hopefully tonight when I go to work it will work..........if not I give up, lol

[FurryNutz]

No, ISPs is very different. 

I presume that maybe MAC cloning maybe lost if the main ISP modem is rebooted as the router be detect this. If the router reboots with out the ISP modem being rebooted, I presume the MAC cloning info should persist.

I'm still going to try and set up MoCA either this weekend or next week with the Joeys. I need to find a good splitter I think as I need to split the signal from the SAT to the Hopper and Joeys, as the Hopper only has one RJ coax port.  I think for now in the LAN configuration, all is working with the 885L.

[ukwildcat4life]

That's exactly what happened.......when the tech support told me to reboot the cable modem and router the router lost all of its settings......I have recloned the MAC address on the router and I will let you know how it goes after I get to test it at work tonight.....

[ukwildcat4life]

Well I'm happy to report that I was able to log into my 855L's GUI and Share port tonight remotely but I'm almost ashamed to tell you what fixed it......when I first tried tonight it wouldn't work and as a last ditch effort I reboot the cable modem gateway here at work and sure enough thats all it needed..... I just don't understand why I had to do that to make it work though? I can promise you had I put the 880L back in use I wouldn't of had to do that.....so I don't think cloning the MAC was even necessary...............now as far as the Tivo problem goes it is working now but at times has a mind of its own but I do think the upgraded splitter fixed that problem but one thing I learned is that when all else fails enabling DMZ will fix it everytime!  thanks for all of the help you have give me the last week on these issues...I was bound and determined to make everything work and keep the 885L as Dlink are my favorite routers and their customer support is the best I've dealt with including you guys on here!  Do update me when you get your MoCA up and running and let me know how that works out!