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Author Topic: ipv6 support?  (Read 10961 times)

wiak

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ipv6 support?
« on: August 18, 2009, 08:51:53 PM »

do dir-655 support ipv6?
kinda bad if it dosnt when ipv4 will be running out of adresses soon
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Re: ipv6 support?
« Reply #1 on: August 20, 2009, 11:53:30 AM »

Search for "IPv6" in this 655 forum and you'll find the answer.
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Ozzed

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Re: ipv6 support?
« Reply #2 on: August 21, 2009, 02:32:29 AM »

I have read Lycan saying it is "Probable" that the 655 will get IPV6-support since most ISP's will require it by next year.
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Re: ipv6 support?
« Reply #3 on: August 21, 2009, 11:35:51 AM »

Next year is too early. There's a lot of network equipment (95%) that's is not IPv6 ready by default. And 99% of ISP's are not IPv6 capable...

But the 655 is perfectly capable when using IPv6 tunneling.
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jmartinez3

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Re: ipv6 support?
« Reply #4 on: March 17, 2010, 03:43:21 PM »

Next year is too early. There's a lot of network equipment (95%) that's is not IPv6 ready by default. And 99% of ISP's are not IPv6 capable...

But the 655 is perfectly capable when using IPv6 tunneling.

Please accept my appologies on bringing back this long forgotten topic, but when talking about IPv6 it looks like you all rely on tunneling. But I am wondering which tunneling you are talking about because I cannot find any Teredo(-like) configuration page on the router or anything about IPv6 on the LAN either. Is it that you where talking about tunneling from the computer itself? Because if that is so, then every router in the world is capable of that, am I wrong?
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fireboy

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Re: ipv6 support?
« Reply #5 on: March 17, 2010, 09:14:48 PM »

Some testing where I work (and with others. and no it's not DLINK) actually shows that most ISP's are permissively already passing V6 traffic on their backbones anyhow.  Firewalls and IDS support is something else entirely (more like lack thereof).  Our biggest issues have been getting AAAA records from DNS.  That said, if the 655 supported V6 now, you'd probably have a pretty good shot of passing traffic based on V6. 

I think it remains to be seen if something like the 655 has enough horsepower to do V6.  My bet is on doubt it, but as Demonized mentioned you can run Teredo tunnels and 6to4 tunnels now right through the 655 with no problem.  I had an ISATAP driver loaded for a while used the free support at SIXXS to offload distant end V6 with no issues through the 655.  That was on a particular client basis, but you could always throw a Linux box in front of your 655 with 2 NICS and do it for your whole network.  Or you could by an 'open source' router and run a version of DD-WRT that supports V6.  (http://www.joewein.net/blog/2009/05/25/ipv6-with-dd-wrt-router-and-hurricane-electric/  which is still really only doing a 6to4 tunnel if you read it close)  :)

As to the OP, there is NOBODY right now in the consumer SOHO space that offers a consumer grade V6 compliant router, regardless of IP exhaustion status, that I know of.  You can do it on 
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jmartinez3

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Re: ipv6 support?
« Reply #6 on: March 18, 2010, 04:36:21 AM »

I think it remains to be seen if something like the 655 has enough horsepower to do V6.  My bet is on doubt it

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As to the OP, there is NOBODY right now in the consumer SOHO space that offers a consumer grade V6 compliant router, regardless of IP exhaustion status, that I know of.  You can do it on 

I do not think IPv6 requires more CPU to run than IPv4. Most of its features fit nicely into what IPv4 does with DHCP and the like. The only no_go I can think of is that there could be a hardware acceleration on anything that requires 32 bit addresses or IPv4 packet format, but I doubt a SOHO CPE would have such an improvement.

Also, if DIR655 is unix-based, using iptables, nat, and tunneling for ipv6 is dead easy if required. Perhaps the compilation would stretch the store capacity or the ram for execution, but I'd love to know if that is the case so I can move on instead of trying to find out if DIR655 would ever get IPv6/IPv4 simultaneosuly.

Anyway, I'd be willing to develop my own SOHO CPE to get into the IPv6 network using a tunnel since I am a telco engineer willing to learn about the real IPv6 experience. If I ever get my hands on Wireless N dual band router capable of running openwrt or tunneling IPv6 featrures I would surely get it (actually I am trying to find out if 855 does support that). But with OpenWRT out there it would not be eficient to develop a new firmware, don't you agree?

I'll keep an eye on Dlink anyway. Thanks for the reply.
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Re: ipv6 support?
« Reply #7 on: March 20, 2010, 01:43:20 PM »

Please accept my appologies on bringing back this long forgotten topic, but when talking about IPv6 it looks like you all rely on tunneling. But I am wondering which tunneling you are talking about because I cannot find any Teredo(-like) configuration page on the router or anything about IPv6 on the LAN either. Is it that you where talking about tunneling from the computer itself? Because if that is so, then every router in the world is capable of that, am I wrong?

Tunneling does not require any router setup. It is just IPv4 traffic passing through. So any router can do this.
Tunneling is for 98% of the users the only way to use IPv6. Even ISP's are not ready to offer IPv6 as the default service and the number of IPv6 DNS rootservers is also very limited.
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jmartinez3

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Re: ipv6 support?
« Reply #8 on: March 20, 2010, 01:55:34 PM »

Tunneling does not require any router setup.
Absolutely right. I just did not want to assume that the tunnel was coming through instead of being started at the router itself.

To be 100% honest, I did not expect DIR655 to be an IPv6 only router. Actually I would hate it to be just that. What I need it to be is being able to connect into a tunnel broker making the LAN look like my computers are actually connected into the the IPv6 network.

The scenario I am interested into means native single-stack IPv6 on the LAN and gateway LAN interface, letting the gateway tunnel into the IPv6 network so the LAN computers feel fully native IPv6 and behave purely like it.
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EddieZ

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Re: ipv6 support?
« Reply #9 on: March 21, 2010, 03:10:40 AM »

Absolutely right. I just did not want to assume that the tunnel was coming through instead of being started at the router itself.

To be 100% honest, I did not expect DIR655 to be an IPv6 only router. Actually I would hate it to be just that. What I need it to be is being able to connect into a tunnel broker making the LAN look like my computers are actually connected into the the IPv6 network.

The scenario I am interested into means native single-stack IPv6 on the LAN and gateway LAN interface, letting the gateway tunnel into the IPv6 network so the LAN computers feel fully native IPv6 and behave purely like it.

You wont find any SOHO routers like that yet....
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jmartinez3

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Re: ipv6 support?
« Reply #10 on: March 21, 2010, 05:19:36 AM »

You wont find any SOHO routers like that yet....
The only way to go would be a Cisco router like the 1800 series or something like that. :( Or perhaps an OpenWRT installable one.

Thanks for the help, guys.

DLink, come on, it is not that expensive to develop and DIR655 price tag should let you make it better. Be the first one into IPv6. :D I would even be willing to void my warranty if there is an engineering version or a testing team I could get involved with (console access details would be very welcome). ;)
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EddieZ

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Re: ipv6 support?
« Reply #11 on: March 21, 2010, 06:14:28 AM »

The only way to go would be a Cisco router like the 1800 series or something like that. :( Or perhaps an OpenWRT installable one.

Thanks for the help, guys.

DLink, come on, it is not that expensive to develop and DIR655 price tag should let you make it better. Be the first one into IPv6. :D I would even be willing to void my warranty if there is an engineering version or a testing team I could get involved with (console access details would be very welcome). ;)

The Cisco is not really a $100 router  ;D

No problem, there's a questionaire topic about me on the main page. So feel free to contribute.  ;)
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jmartinez3

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Re: ipv6 support?
« Reply #12 on: March 21, 2010, 07:34:13 AM »

The Cisco is not really a $100 router  ;D
Absolutely. That is why I was looking for something else. I did not want to rely on office lent equipment or buy such an overkill and expensive piece of hardware but I guess there is no other choice for now. :(
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EddieZ

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Re: ipv6 support?
« Reply #13 on: March 21, 2010, 08:08:57 AM »

Haven't seen any real pro's for IPv6 yet, so that would figure ...  ;)
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