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Author Topic: Will the final 1.08 GA firmware require drive reformatting?  (Read 20320 times)

mig

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Re: Will the final 1.08 GA firmware require drive reformatting?
« Reply #15 on: September 21, 2009, 09:27:32 PM »

Was looking for insights on how others have setup their volumes?

I have my DNS-323 setup in a straight RAID1 config as my central storage.  All winOS
machines (4 total) store all their user data on the DNS-323.  All the data on my DNS-323
is backed up automatically by my previous NAS (Linkstation Pro) using rsnapshot (daily
for 14 days, weekly for 8 weeks, and monthly for 12 months) to a external USB drive
(connected to the Linkstation Pro).  Software ISOs and Acronis disk images for the winOS
machines are kept on an older KuroBox NAS (w/no backups).

Man, I just could not live with myself, if I lost my digital photos. So I keep copies on my
local deskside computer, the DNS-323, and the Linkstation Pro USB backup disk.  I also make
DVD archives in 4GB increments and, at the end of the year, create another archive on Dual
Layer DVDs (8GB increments).

Personally, I would stay away from D-Link JBOD, because if either disk fails, you lose all you data.
« Last Edit: September 21, 2009, 09:29:14 PM by mig »
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acomp917

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Re: Will the final 1.08 GA firmware require drive reformatting?
« Reply #16 on: October 05, 2009, 07:11:16 PM »

It has been a while... but,

Raid is a lousy backup method. It is mainly used for hot swap business purposes, then there is no down time. A business always has a backup routine accompanying for that capability.

I just broke my raid 1 for the purpose of local backup. I found I did not need a hot fix and had plenty of room. I also do an off-site backup of the incremental.
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stillerz

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Re: Will the final 1.08 GA firmware require drive reformatting?
« Reply #17 on: October 06, 2009, 05:30:14 AM »

How did you "break your raid 1"?  (I'm not at that point yet, but I think it would be good to know the steps of converting my raid 1 to two discs)
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fordem

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Re: Will the final 1.08 GA firmware require drive reformatting?
« Reply #18 on: October 06, 2009, 06:56:58 AM »

It has been a while... but,

Raid is a lousy backup method. It is mainly used for hot swap business purposes, then there is no down time. A business always has a backup routine accompanying for that capability.

I just broke my raid 1 for the purpose of local backup. I found I did not need a hot fix and had plenty of room. I also do an off-site backup of the incremental.

First RAID is NOT a backup method.
Second RAID & hotswap have nothing to do with one another - hot swap capability is nice to have in a RAID array, but is not a requirement.

RAID is purely about redundancy and the minimizing potential downtime in the event of a disk failure.  RAID without hot swap allows you to defer the down time required to replace the failed disk to a time convenient for you, like outside of business hours.

stillerz - you can break your RAID array by removing one of the disks and formatting the remaining one as a standard volume, when the format is complete, reinstall the disk that you removed and you should have access to the data on it as a separate volume.

Note that should - done this way, you should not lose data, but it's your data, so back it up before you start.
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stillerz

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Re: Will the final 1.08 GA firmware require drive reformatting?
« Reply #19 on: October 06, 2009, 07:42:52 AM »

Thanks -- has anyone actually tried that?
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fordem

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Re: Will the final 1.08 GA firmware require drive reformatting?
« Reply #20 on: October 06, 2009, 08:28:27 AM »

Yes - that's why I suggested it.
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stillerz

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Re: Will the final 1.08 GA firmware require drive reformatting?
« Reply #21 on: October 06, 2009, 08:40:09 AM »

Thanks -- that's great.  I was just reading a little too much into the "should", I guess.
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fordem

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Re: Will the final 1.08 GA firmware require drive reformatting?
« Reply #22 on: October 06, 2009, 06:12:55 PM »

Thanks -- that's great.  I was just reading a little too much into the "should", I guess.

The should is there as a disclaimer - it worked for me, I know it's worked for others to whom I have suggested it, and it should work for you - BUT - I offer no guarantees, and I recommend a back up so if for some reason it doesn't work for you, and you didn't backup, I'm not responsible for lost data.
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gunrunnerjohn

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Re: Will the final 1.08 GA firmware require drive reformatting?
« Reply #23 on: October 07, 2009, 11:42:58 AM »

I upgraded with no data loss.  Now, the DNS-323 is strictly a backup, it has no "original" data, so the risk in my case was just the time it would take to copy 800gigs of data back to it if it ate the backup.
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gunrunnerjohn

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Re: Will the final 1.08 GA firmware require drive reformatting?
« Reply #24 on: October 26, 2009, 11:24:47 AM »

I've never heard EXT4 mentioned as being supported, does it actually support EXT4 filesystems?
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gunrunnerjohn

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Re: Will the final 1.08 GA firmware require drive reformatting?
« Reply #25 on: October 26, 2009, 04:13:02 PM »

That one did throw me, I knew of the existence of EXT4, but not in the DNS-323 context. :)
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