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Title: Gamefuel and PS3
Post by: kargo27 on March 31, 2011, 09:35:17 PM
What do you put for:

Local Port Range
Remote IP Range
Remote Port Range

Does it vary for each individual?
Title: Re: Gamefuel and PS3
Post by: FurryNutz on March 31, 2011, 10:26:24 PM
Did you review the PS gamefuel sticky?
Title: Re: Gamefuel and PS3
Post by: kargo27 on April 01, 2011, 06:23:12 AM
I did, but it doesn't say how to get those things I listed.  :(  The XBOX one lists the port info but not the PS3 one.

Or am I supposed to use those port and IP ranges shown by Chris?
Title: Re: Gamefuel and PS3
Post by: FurryNutz on April 01, 2011, 07:18:39 AM
What do you put for:

Local Port Range> Zero(0)
Remote IP Range> 255.255.255.255
Remote Port Range 65535

There has been some mention that using these port value may lead to problems as these values are global. They are open to any and all. However I haven't seen any issue since I found the ones for the XBL. A fellow member on here managed to find specific Remote IP address ranges for XBL. Not sure what they would be for PS. Lately I've been using a more specific Remote port ranges for XBL, mainly 3074 and 53 so gamefuel has been set up differently. Eventually I'm going to post this information as well. If Chris or someone else could narrow down the ports/remote addresses that PS uses, then you could probably use more specific gamefuel rules.
Does it vary for each individual?
Title: Re: Gamefuel and PS3
Post by: kargo27 on April 01, 2011, 10:30:12 AM
Thanks Furry.  Yeah, I'm clueless about ports.  I'm assuming they are an entry/exit for information for the system?

All I know is that you don't want any to be visible to hackers!   :P :o ;D

I can't leave them blank or the 4500 won't save the info.  I just don't know what to put in there.
Title: Re: Gamefuel and PS3
Post by: FurryNutz on April 01, 2011, 11:01:02 AM
Yes they could be considered entry and exit points on the network.

For now, use local/remote port range From box: 0 and To box 65535. Use the BOTH option in the drop down box.

for remote IP range From box: 0.0.0.0 and To box: 255.255.255.255
Title: Re: Gamefuel and PS3
Post by: FurryNutz on April 01, 2011, 11:06:43 AM
Actually, how many game consoles do you have?
If you only have one game console then the PS sticky will work great for the one console. Where it gets interesting is with 2 or more.  ::)
Title: Re: Gamefuel and PS3
Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on April 01, 2011, 01:56:33 PM
It is unnecessary to use a specific port for your console. It is much easier and in long term better to utilize it the way I have it, you will know for a fact that all games and program running on the ps3 will get their fair share of ports. Plus what are the dangers? There are basically none, only danger I could think of is someone spamming your ps3 with random packets but then again who will know you and attack you? Back on track just read the ps sticky as Furry mentioned, see any error or issue’s let me know.  Also by setting a static Ip address and setting it on the GameFuel rule only that IP address (PS3) will be able to open those ports, so not all ports will be open at once. Well in theory they will be open, but the Ps3 will not be utilizing all of them. Also you have UPnP that will handle the port closures and openings.

Actually, how many game consoles do you have?
If you only have one game console then the PS sticky will work great for the one console. Where it gets interesting is with 2 or more.  ::)

Just repeat my process for the second console, they should both work because they both are opening the ports from two different network cards and utilizing two different IP addresses which in term mean they won't be confused. But now if you were using one ps3 and utilizing let's say two games and they both want to open let's say port 155 they will be conflicted because how will they know which packet belongs to what game? Hope that makes sense. Let's just say if the above is incorrect than all you have to do is go on your router via 192.168.0.1 and then Navigate to Advance > Advance Network > Multicast Streams and Enable "Multicast Streams" Problems should now be resolved.

Thanks Furry.  Yeah, I'm clueless about ports.  I'm assuming they are an entry/exit for information for the system?

All I know is that you don't want any to be visible to hackers!   :P :o ;D

I can't leave them blank or the 4500 won't save the info.  I just don't know what to put in there.


 You can indeed leave them blank..... That's why "protocol:" is set to "any" which means any value the ps3 recalls will be given to it by the router in a range of 0 to 65535. Those values are ranges from the lowest to the highest and are given by the router and not me. You may set them higher but come on what type of game developers etc will use a port higher than 65535. Hope I am making sense, have a great day....

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Chris
Title: Re: Gamefuel and PS3
Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on April 01, 2011, 02:00:07 PM
I may start work on an upgraded version of my Ps sticky, I believe the current one does not have all the solutions that certain people are looking for. Sorry for double posting.
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Chris
Title: Re: Gamefuel and PS3
Post by: FurryNutz on April 01, 2011, 02:36:22 PM
Agreed, we need to probably update both PS and XBL stickies to reflect the use of 1 game console vs 2 or more.
Title: Re: Gamefuel and PS3
Post by: kargo27 on April 01, 2011, 09:18:25 PM
Sorry, guys, busy day.  Yes, we actually have 3 XBOXes, a wii and a PS3.  At any one time, 3 could be on but only one will be playing multiplayer (me).

OK, so I can put 0-65535?  That's what I was wondering.

ETA: OK, cool, I set it up exactly as Chris has it listed but with my own PS3's IP address.

Thanks, dudes!  I have my XBOX as 1st priority and the PS3 as 2nd.  They will never be on at the same time, but I do stream Netflix to either one or the other.
Title: Re: Gamefuel and PS3
Post by: FurryNutz on April 02, 2011, 10:53:04 AM
Ya 3 xboxes, we need to get you set up for those as well.
Title: Re: Gamefuel and PS3
Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on April 02, 2011, 11:05:23 AM
Sorry, guys, busy day.  Yes, we actually have 3 XBOXes, a wii and a PS3.  At any one time, 3 could be on but only one will be playing multiplayer (me).

OK, so I can put 0-65535?  That's what I was wondering.

ETA: OK, cool, I set it up exactly as Chris has it listed but with my own PS3's IP address.

Thanks, dudes!  I have my XBOX as 1st priority and the PS3 as 2nd.  They will never be on at the same time, but I do stream Netflix to either one or the other.

I suppose all three xbox are working fine, even when they are all on at any given time? I still don't understand why people buy those x systems.....

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Chris
Title: Re: Gamefuel and PS3
Post by: FurryNutz on April 02, 2011, 11:42:58 AM
Cuz there more better...  ;D
Title: Re: Gamefuel and PS3
Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on April 02, 2011, 11:56:36 AM
Cuz there more better...  ;D

Sure buddy, but let's change the topic before this turns into a console war :) You don't want to see my fan boy side -_-..

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Chris
Title: Re: Gamefuel and PS3
Post by: FurryNutz on April 02, 2011, 12:06:29 PM
Your Fan boy side will loose against our Fan Manliness  ;D
Title: Re: Gamefuel and PS3
Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on April 02, 2011, 12:13:55 PM
Sure it will, but don't forget the main reason you guys are winning the console war.. With each RROD a new xbox customer re buys it.
(http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa64/chriz704/th_Ps3Itonlydoeseverything.jpg) (http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa64/chriz704/Ps3Itonlydoeseverything.jpg)
Title: Re: Gamefuel and PS3
Post by: kargo27 on April 02, 2011, 01:24:38 PM
Uh oh, I didn't mean to start a console war!   :o :o :o
Title: Re: Gamefuel and PS3
Post by: kargo27 on April 02, 2011, 01:30:00 PM
I suppose all three xbox are working fine, even when they are all on at any given time? I still don't understand why people buy those x systems.....

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Chris

Yes, they seem to be playing nicely.  But my son who is 5 and my daughter, 13, don't play multiplayer.  SO, I figured I'd just set gamefuel up for my XBOX and PS3.  Those are the 2 consoles I stream Netflix from as well.
Title: Re: Gamefuel and PS3
Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on April 02, 2011, 03:09:18 PM
GameFuel rules should be set for those extreme gamers or those who are experiencing issues. After all this is a gaming router. Netflix doesn't seem to require such capacity and priority but that's just what it is, after all setting a gamefuel will just throttle anyone else who is not on the priority list.

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Chris
Title: Re: Gamefuel and PS3
Post by: FurryNutz on April 02, 2011, 03:20:33 PM
Gamefule should be set at least when 2 or more gaming consoles are on line and if PCs are in the mix, they can be added too. I added my pc as I do some downloading while gaming and I don't see any issues while gaming.
Title: Re: Gamefuel and PS3
Post by: kargo27 on April 02, 2011, 03:51:20 PM
OK, well, when I'm gaming my wife is surfing the web and my daughter sometimes streams Netflix or surfs the web.

Does that necessitate me setting up Gamefuel?
Title: Re: Gamefuel and PS3
Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on April 02, 2011, 04:17:29 PM
It won't matter much if your ISP provides you a great deal of bandwidth but if they don't and your your daughter is streaming netflix and your wife is surfing the net, they might get a delay Etc. I was just wanted to let you guys know that, I never meant to say your game fuel is wrong. Because it is not wrong. Gaming does not use a big deal of bandwidth it is just time sensitive information unless you are downloading Etc.

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Chris
Title: Re: Gamefuel and PS3
Post by: FurryNutz on April 02, 2011, 05:36:49 PM
If your seeing some lag or degredation while gaming when your wife and child are online, then you might want to setup a rule for them.
Title: Re: Gamefuel and PS3
Post by: kargo27 on April 02, 2011, 06:08:26 PM
OK, cool, thanks guys.  I'll ask them next time if they're having issues.

We have 25 down/3 up but since we're all wireless we NEVER see those down speeds.  I see 20 Mbps regularly when early in the morning or really late at night. 

We do consistently get the up speed at 3Mbps, though.
Title: Re: Gamefuel and PS3
Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on April 03, 2011, 12:14:23 AM
25/3 is pretty good, and is enough for everything that is being done at the house. (as you stated above)

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Chris
Title: Re: Gamefuel and PS3
Post by: Hard Harry on April 03, 2011, 11:06:24 AM
I love how the Wii are the pacifists in the great war. Not that I am one of them or anything, I just find it funny.

Have you ever run any tests with the router bypassed? If your only see 3, even late at night, could be someone on the ISP side. And we might be able to help with that too.
Title: Re: Gamefuel and PS3
Post by: kargo27 on April 03, 2011, 12:07:55 PM
I love how the Wii are the pacifists in the great war. Not that I am one of them or anything, I just find it funny.

Have you ever run any tests with the router bypassed? If your only see 3, even late at night, could be someone on the ISP side. And we might be able to help with that too.

Harry, the Wii SUCKS!  We have one of those, too.  No HDMI output, and nobody plays it, not even the kids.  LMAO!!!  You know who plays the Wii?  Old people in nursing homes.  Seriously, my father has Alzheimer's and I visited him the other day in his nursing home and the elderly were bowling using the Wii.  They call it "Wii-hab" (play on rehab), no kidding!

It's about on par with the Jitter Bug Senior phone is to the smart phones.  http://www.cordlessworkz.com/jitterbug-phone.aspx

You know, I've never run any tests with the router bypassed.  I'd like to try that, thanks man!

Title: Re: Gamefuel and PS3
Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on April 03, 2011, 12:49:27 PM
Yea, you may say the wii are the "pacifists in the great war." but in the end of course they are, they sold 75 something million and yet there active user is what? 1 million? So yea they they the pacifists no one uses it. PlayStation  3 will surpass 360 eventually and than 360 will be left out just like the nintendo wii. I am not a 360 hater, it's just the system is not fair and microsoft is not fair. Sony its were its at.

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Chris
Title: Re: Gamefuel and PS3
Post by: FurryNutz on April 04, 2011, 07:49:40 AM
I have a GOOD idea. TO EACH HIS OWN!  :P
Title: Re: Gamefuel and PS3
Post by: Hard Harry on April 05, 2011, 01:04:23 AM
10 years and most hardcore gamers will move to PC as Sony pushes it PS Phone and Tables, and Xbox pushes its Windows 7 Phone. The future of gaming can be seen in games like Angry birds. Cheap to make, high profit margin, lots of DLC thats stored in cloud. I think they each have one more generation left in them, but past that I would be surprised to see another console, as we think of them anyway. I think THATS going to end the great war. Everyone will just move to PC. Heh
Title: Re: Gamefuel and PS3
Post by: FurryNutz on April 05, 2011, 06:49:36 AM
Thats possible however gamers will always enjoy gaming on a big screen and now that flat screens are cheap, I don't think that gamers will likely give up the big screen for something under 40". I love playing on a 73" DLP.
Title: Re: Gamefuel and PS3
Post by: kargo27 on April 05, 2011, 07:02:29 AM
I have to agree with Furry, Harry.  Given the history of the Atari to now, I seriously doubt that consoles are going away.

If I'm wrong and you're right, I'll eat my COD discs!  LOL!   :P

Angry birds is fun but not like getting a headshot on an enemy as they're running across the map....and earning challenges along the way.