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The Graveyard - Products No Longer Supported => Routers / COVR => DIR-655 => Topic started by: P01arBear on November 14, 2011, 12:39:46 PM
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Hi there!
I just moved into a new appartment and my buddy next door and I are sharing a connexion using a 2wire router (comes with the internet connexion by the company, with their own firmware).
Now, since the 2wire router signal doesn't perform well, I set up my DIR-655 as an Access point.
Now I would like to know what are the optimal settings for a better signal, and also speed. I rather have stability by wifi g/n mixed (maybe will go n only soon).
Some extra questions;
- Should I deactivate the firewall on my DIR655 to gain speed? I imagine it isn't really usefull since there is already another main router.
- Should I check or uncheck "Short GI", "WMM Enable" and "Extra Wireless Protection"?
- Should I activate or deactivate QoS engine and WISH since it is an acess point to gain speed?
- The firmware on the DIR655 is actualy 1.21, is their a newer and stable firmware I should upgrade to?
Thanks!
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This link (http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=40856.0) should get you started. Its a sticky on another thread.
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Yes I use a DGL-4500 as an AP on 5Ghz single N only. I would use Mixed G and N or Single if you can do it. Depends on your devices and what they support.
Yes, turn off everything you don't need, SPI, QoS, WISH, Short GI and Extra Wireless Protection. Might play around with WMM Enable to see if it works better ON or OFF. Any access or MAC filters too to be sure.
Keep us posted.
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Also, I am currently on firmware 1.21. Is there a newer and stable firmware I should upgrade to?
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People say 1.35 is good. I recommend using whats loaded now if it's working well for you. ;)
Bridge Mode vs Relay vs Acess Point (AP) / Routers vs Dedicated Acess Points (AP) (http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=50738.0)
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Hi, I know this thread/topic is old, however I've just begun using my DIR-655 as an access point and I have a question regarding WISH.
It's said earlier in the thread that WISH should be disabled... Why?
I have left WISH running and it doesn't seem to be harming anything. It's designed to prioritize high priority wireless traffic... Isn't that something you'd want to have on an ap?
Thanks.
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Features like WISH depend on the WAN port connection for proper usage. When in AP mode, the WAN port isn't used thus all the features that use the WAN port become non-functional.
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Where is it documented that it uses the WAN?
From what I understand it uses algorithms that analyze the behavior of the wireless traffic in order to categorize it...
It seems to be working when I go Status>WISH Sessions... Shows my wireless traffic, source and destination, protocol, state and has assigned a priority...
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It maybe working for you however in wired ap mode it's preferred to disable all features and let the main host router handle any optimizing of WiFi traffic and use the AP as a pass thru. Any additional processing on the AP will probably lower performance of data flow thru the AP to the main host router.
There are additional threads in the FAQ Library for WISH if you need more information.
If it works for you then by all means, enjoy.
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Been using the DIR-655 for a couple months now as an AP, but recently discovered that the Guest Zone/Wireless network wasn't working.
When I go to connect to the Guest WiFi (which I had enabled under the Advanced tab in the DIR-655 configuration), my computer wasn't able to get IP information (no reply from a DHCP server).
It occurred to me that perhaps in order for the Guest Zone to function, the DIR-655 needs to be in charge of DHCP... So I was about to disable the DHCP on my main router for the VLAN that I have the DIR-655 in and configure the DHCP server on the DIR-655 when it hit me that there was no way to configure the DIR-655's DHCP server to provide clients with the Default Gateway address of my main router and NOT the DIR-655 (which is just an AP)
In short... I've found that using the DIR-655 as an AP (and disabling DHCP Server) will break the Guest WiFi feature. Please let me know if I'm mistaken.
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Using the 655 in AP mode renders guest zome none functional since GZ is dependent upon the WAN port connection.
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This link (http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=40856.0) should get you started. Its a sticky on another thread.
In regard to that thread (which was most excellent, btw) I followed the instructions to the letter, but was not able to logon to the router after hooking it up to the network.
What I think may have been some contributing factors to this inability:
1. My original Asus Rt-N66U has an address of 192.168.1.1. Whereas, the link asks me to set an IP address of 192.168.0.xxx. Since I set it to their suggested example of 192.168.0.52 with the subnet mask of 255.255.255.0 (which is the same for my Asus), I have a feeling that the network cannot identify (?) with it.
2. I have a LAN cable run from the Asus router (LAN port) to my rec room into a gigabit 8-port switch. I attached a LAN cable from that switch into a LAN (NOT WAN) port on the DIR-655.
What do I need to change to be able to logon to the DIR-655 to finalize the settings?
Do I need to give it an IP address of 192.168.1.xxx ?
Help....
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You are correct.
Because your Asus router has a LAN address of 192.168.1.1 and your D-Link router/AP has a LAN address of 192.168.0.52, they are on DIFFERENT SUBNETS and will NOT be able to communicate. More over any devices on your Asus router's LAN subnet (including your pc, presumably) will not be able to communicate with the D-Link router/ap.
Pick one or the other... chose one subnet and stick with it... Either have a LAN subnet of 192.168.0.xxx or 192.168.1.xxx.
To access the D-Link router/ap, you'll need to give your pc a static IP address that's in the same subnet as the router (ex. 192.168.0.53). You may also need to connect directly to one of the router's LAN ports.
Cheers.
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If your main host router is using 192.168.1.1, try using 192.168.1.50 on the AP.
In regard to that thread (which was most excellent, btw) I followed the instructions to the letter, but was not able to logon to the router after hooking it up to the network.
What I think may have been some contributing factors to this inability:
1. My original Asus Rt-N66U has an address of 192.168.1.1. Whereas, the link asks me to set an IP address of 192.168.0.xxx. Since I set it to their suggested example of 192.168.0.52 with the subnet mask of 255.255.255.0 (which is the same for my Asus), I have a feeling that the network cannot identify (?) with it.
2. I have a LAN cable run from the Asus router (LAN port) to my rec room into a gigabit 8-port switch. I attached a LAN cable from that switch into a LAN (NOT WAN) port on the DIR-655.
What do I need to change to be able to logon to the DIR-655 to finalize the settings?
Do I need to give it an IP address of 192.168.1.xxx ?
Help....
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Since I am unable to logon to the DIR-655, I guess I have to do a reset and begin again...right?
I am not so sure I understand the idea of giving my PC a static IP address. When would I even use that IP address and why?
Since no one mentioned about my LAN cable going to the gigabit switch, I'm gonna assume that was okay to do. I think I have definitely made the mistake of purchasing two components here - the switch and the router for an access point. I should have gone with an 8-port wireless router to act as both an access point and provide me with lots of ports to cable into. A 4-port router leaves only three ports for extras...Is this correct?
Anyway, gotta go do a reset...will report back with my findings or unfindings...:) Thanks for all the help so far.
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When setting up a router for AP mode, since you are disabling the DHCP server on the router, putting a static IP address on the PC will ensure you maintain connection with the router after it goes into AP mode. Once the AP is set up, then change the PC back to Automatic Obtain. I've done this a lot and it works.
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How do I go about "putting a static IP address on the PC"?
BTW, after pressing the reset button for 10 seconds, waiting for another 30 seconds, and then attaching it by cable to my PC, I still can't logon with its original 192.168.0.1 IP address... :(
Now what?
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Ensure your connecting the cable to the LAN Port not the WAN PORT?
Go into your network settings on the PC and input IP address and subnet there.
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Yes, definitely LAN port.
I'm sorry, but how the heck do I go into my network settings on the PC? I guess I am too stupid for this forum. What good does changing my PC IP address (even if I knew how) do? I need to get into the DIR655, or so I think. BTW, I am operating from a laptop with Win 8.1 installed, if that makes a difference.
How about a simplistic step by step approach for morons to address how I get into the DIR655 router. Right now, there are three light indicators on the router. The power (not flashing), the one to the right of the power - the Internet LED (flashing), and the wireless indicator (not flashing). All are blue.
Sorry, but this is very frustrating!
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Don't know how I did it, but I managed to get back into the DIR655 and am starting the whole process over again.
Question: At what point in this whole procedure do I reboot my AP?
In point 5 from that list of how to turn your router into an access point, it says:
5. Under Setup or Basic/Networking, enter an available IP address (192.168.0.50) and the subnet mask of your network, usually 255.255.255.0 or .255. Click Save Settings to save your settings. Use this new IP address to access the configuration utility of the router in the future. Also turn off or disable other features on the AP router, I.e. Port Forwarding, Firewall, WISH, WPS and any email logging. Save the settings. Close the browser and change your computer’s IP settings back to the original values as in Step 1.
I do not understand what is meant by the very last sentence about changing back my computer's/laptop's settings. When did I ever change them in the first place? LOST. If I am automatically assigned an IP address how does this affect things, or does it? LOST.
Still fuzzy on the whole business of my main router being 192.168.1.1 and the DIR655 being (initially) 192.168.0.1...
Point #6 says:
6. Disconnect the Ethernet cable from the AP router and reconnect your computer to your network.
QUESTION: Should I connect to my network wirelessly, or must I hard wire to the main router?
Point #7 says:
7. Connect an Ethernet cable in one of the LAN ports of the AP router and connect it to your host router. Do not plug anything into the Internet (WAN) port of the router that your turning into an AP. Use the LAN ports only.
QUESTION: Is it alright to connect the AP into my gigabit switch (that runs from main Asus router LAN to gigabit switch LAN)?
I'm gonna stop here and check back tomorrow before going any further.
I am still wondering when I reboot the AP, or do I need to, or does it make any difference...
Sorry if I am such a pain...I promise to get better and learn more.
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Don't know how I did it, but I managed to get back into the DIR655 and am starting the whole process over again.
Question: At what point in this whole procedure do I reboot my AP? After all the changes have been made to the AP. You can make the changes and use the Reboot Later funtion until you are done making changes. Then reboot.
In point 5 from that list of how to turn your router into an access point, it says:
5. Under Setup or Basic/Networking, enter an available IP address (192.168.0.50) and the subnet mask of your network, usually 255.255.255.0 or .255. Click Save Settings to save your settings. Use this new IP address to access the configuration utility of the router in the future. Also turn off or disable other features on the AP router, I.e. Port Forwarding, Firewall, WISH, WPS and any email logging. Save the settings. Close the browser and change your computer’s IP settings back to the original values as in Step 1.
I do not understand what is meant by the very last sentence about changing back my computer's/laptop's settings. When did I ever change them in the first place? LOST. If I am automatically assigned an IP address how does this affect things, or does it? LOST.
Still fuzzy on the whole business of my main router being 192.168.1.1 and the DIR655 being (initially) 192.168.0.1...
Intialally yes you have to start out on .0.1, however once you make the change to 1.50 on the AP and save the changes and reboot, the AP will not be using 1.50 as it's access IP address. Once the DHCP server is disabled, then your connected PC will loose connection to the AP as the PC can no longer get a IP address from the AP in this mode. Thus the reason you have to set a manual IP address to the new 198.168.1.49 while you ensure the settings are good. Or leave your PC in automatic and connect the AP to the main host router or switch and then connect to the AP at 1.50.
Point #6 says:
6. Disconnect the Ethernet cable from the AP router and reconnect your computer to your network.
QUESTION: Should I connect to my network wirelessly, or must I hard wire to the main router?
For set up, wired is best, once things are up and running, then connect wirelessly.
Point #7 says:
7. Connect an Ethernet cable in one of the LAN ports of the AP router and connect it to your host router. Do not plug anything into the Internet (WAN) port of the router that your turning into an AP. Use the LAN ports only.
QUESTION: Is it alright to connect the AP into my gigabit switch (that runs from main Asus router LAN to gigabit switch LAN)? Yes.
I'm gonna stop here and check back tomorrow before going any further.
I am still wondering when I reboot the AP, or do I need to, or does it make any difference...
Sorry if I am such a pain...I promise to get better and learn more.
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THANKS FUZZY!!!!
I managed to get it all setup. I am not sure what the wireless settings for the AP (DIR655) and the main router (ASUS RT-N66U) should be though. I have inSSIDer 3 and don't really see too much of a difference. My present settings are 20/40 and auto channel for both.
I did notice that when my main router (the ASUS) was set at 40 Mgh the speed doubled to 150. At 20/40 it drops to 75 . I have no idea what this means and how it impacts...
Comments?
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Glad you got it running. I recommend setting a manual channel on both main router and AP. Say 11 for main and 1 for AP. Unless you have other WiFi neighbors around.
You can keep the 40Mhz as this means the main router can operate with a bigger connection pipe between the router and connected devices, if they support that operation mode. Some don't so Auto 20/40Mhz is best sometimes. You'll have to refer to the devices Mfr support information on what they support. It also refers to this as well:
Good Neighbour Policy (http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=10634.0)