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The Graveyard - Products No Longer Supported => Routers / COVR => DGL-4500 => Topic started by: Butcher on February 27, 2009, 07:16:50 PM
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It is on the FTP site, it just got released today, however I do not know any info on the beta release notes, if someone know any info on the beta, it would be great, thank you! ;D
ftp://ftp.dlink.com/Gateway/dgl4500/
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Thanks for posting this.
I just tried it. It seems a bit slow now. But, I backed it up from a configuration file...so I don't know if it made a difference or not. It works though.
I hope we can get a changelog for this though. And I am also praying that a lot of the stuff that we asked for got fixed. Like compatibility for wireless clients, and wireless strength. Better port forwarding, and connection issues with games, and dropping.
It would be nice!
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I've been using it about 6hrs now and seems to be the same old thing. Some reason I couldn't use the backup config from 1.15. I also couldn't access Wireless Security Setup Wizard or Add Wireless Device WITH WPS (WI-FI PROTECTED SETUP) Wizard. After I went back to 1.15 I could.
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every thing work OK for me i can backupconfig too, don't know what fix but it loOK ok to me.
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After redoing all of my settings again, which wasn't hard (Not backed up from a config file), my wireless performance has been very very flaky. It drops quite often now, and nothing has really changed except firmware. DNS resolution is slow, even when using the OpenDNS servers. 1.15 is fine...just all those bugs with port forwarding and connection drops.
But yeah...1.16 causes some wireless problems here for me, and there's just way too many errors. Fix these problems!!!!
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Guess there is a reason why for the warning that comes with it.
http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=4466.0
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Reinvented-
We're seeing improved wireless performance. In fact I have a a1 4500 that almost doubled it's data rate with the beta.
If you roll the code back to 1.15 does the behavior continue?
Also with the 1.15, what port forwarding issues are you having, I've been reading the forums looking for things, I must have missed that post :/
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1.15 seems better for wireless throughput. Still lots of errors.
I've posted ALL of my issues in SEVERAL major threads. They are the same stuff over and over again.
All of them are listed in the 1.15 gaming bugs sticky that you made.
And of course here still.
Connections still drop regardless of SPI on or off, and set to endpoint filtering..
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Yeah...so all the bugs that I've listed are STILL present. And they have yet to be fixed. Wireless performance is horrible with 1.16.
I also found another bug with 1.16. It involves rebooting, and it losing the NTP time server information. I'm not sure why mine resets, but after doing a factory defaults, and setting it up again...everytime a reboot occurs, then the time server information disappears, and the time is all whacky again.
Please fix ALL of these issues. Even the DIR-655 gets more updates than this.
Heck, it's BEEN MANY MONTHS! I've even sent you guys the logs you requested of deauthentication, and we still haven't received a fix for anything. I'm becoming very disappointed. It's a gaming router, and i can't game on it!
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Reinvented,
What hardware version is your unit?
How long have you had the unit?
Any chance have you tried to clear the cache from your browser?
I will test out what you're reporting when I get home.
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Reinvented,
What hardware version is your unit?
How long have you had the unit?
Any chance have you tried to clear the cache from your browser?
I will test out what you're reporting when I get home.
I've had my unit since February of 08. It's an A1 unit. Clearing cache doesn't mean anything for the GUI. It's a router problem. I say this because it gets refreshed from the router side. The browser doesn't store ANY settings for the router, or anything.
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Any word on 1.16b03 and issues with access to the "wizard" menus?
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Any word on 1.16b03 and issues with access to the "wizard" menus?
Do you not know what the versions of firmware mean? Or even what thread you are posting in? The "b" in the filename denotes it being a beta. This is the beta thread. If you are having issues with these things, then post in here.
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Do you not know what the versions of firmware mean? Or even what thread you are posting in? The "b" in the filename denotes it being a beta. This is the beta thread. If you are having issues with these things, then post in here.
? are you a little slow today? it is a question to do with the 1.16 beta. Just wanted to see if it may have been something on my end.
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So I tested out the 1.16 FW in a home environment.. From wireless connection, time settings, streaming media, playing video games via console through a wireless bridge, also roomate using wireless laptop, setting up QoS, downloading etc... (too much to name)
Anyways.. It appears to be working fine for me.
Reinvented,
Please list the issues that you're experiencing and the steps so I can test it out here at work and see what we can do for you.
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Ru-Fi-Oh & Reinvented,
There is one thing I'm thinking (wondering) may possibly be causing the differences you are seeing in the results each of you are getting.
This may be a long shot, but seeing as you are both running A1 units....
Are the Wi-Fi cards in the Routers the exact same or are they different?
(IE: model, build #, chipset, ect...)
If the mini-PCI card is problematic or defective, then there will be problems no matter how good the router is.
Might there be any other differences between your units?
Reinvented,
Maybe you can pull the mini-PCI card from the router and install it in your laptop to test it out and run some diagnostics to see if anything shows up?
As I said, this may be a long shot, but at this point, it may be worth looking into.
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Reinvented,
Please provide me with the serial number to your router, there is something I'd like to check.
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Ru-Fi-Oh: Even after reflashing and not loading a configuration file, it's still exhibiting all of these wonderful problems.
Wireless doesn't seem as bad now, but it still pops out lots of errors, and will random disconnect as well. Logs show a few deauthentications, but I've seen it say that it's timed out and then associate, and then secured and linked.
Here's a run down of my settings..
Open DNS servers...both Primary and Secondary.
Wireless: 2.4 GHz, N/G, Channel 11, Best Rate, Auto 20/40Hz, Auto WPA/WPA2, TKIP/AES
DHCP: 192.168.0.100 - 192.168.0.110
5 DHCP reservations for laptop, iphone, printer, and two for an Apple Timecapsule
WPS: Off/Disabled
GameFuel: On and Manual 1024. Cable Network selected. No rules.
Port Forwarding: 192.168.0.101 to Warcraft 3 6112-6119, 4000
SPI Firewall: Enabled AND Disabled
TCP/UDP Filtering: Endpoint Independent, Address Restricted/Port and Address Restricted, and Port and Address Restricted
WISH: All/Automatic, No rules
Time: NTP server ntp1.dlink.com
Those are all of my settings for my router. Ones that I've used, and that's it.
Still every reboot, causes the time server to lose it's settings. And wireless is still poor spitting out errors.
I'll get you the serial in a bit, Lycan.
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Serial number: F3OB182003891
HW Ver: A1
FW: 1.02
I also just found an updated beta driver that works now with the wireless for Intel Pro adapters.
So, I'm happy about that.
However, the wireless performance is still very poor. It's dropped so much as of late after updating to this new firmware. Nothing's changed at all, except the firmware. Causes very low signal levels, and even more errors and retransmits.
Also, I've noticed that if I do automatic uplink speed and set the connection type to auto, it will register my cable connection as XDSL Relay.
And a new request...on the Status page, can we have the "QoS Engine" say, "GameFuel Engine" instead?
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Tried 1.16, lots of errors with Wireless.
I cleared the statistics, and in less than one minute it showed there were over 400,000 wireless errors.
Flashed back to 1.15
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qtmod,
Did you configure your router from scratch after upgrading the firmware? Or did you load a config from the previous firmware?
Reinvented,
I'll ask Lycan about the serial number you provided.
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I loaded a config. Played with some settings, changing wireless channels manually, and many other settings. Nothing I did seemed to help with the errors.
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Try doing what I did. I reflashed the firmware another time, after I did a very long reset. Tipstir recommended this, and it seems to help a bit. If you are familiar with DD-WRT, it's what they use and recommend you do after a flash.
Errors are still the same, but not THAT many within a few seconds. And the speed still wavers greatly too over wireless.
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I just found this thread, and I have my 1.15 backed up (both config *and* .bin) and will give this new version a shot to see if I have issues as noticed by some of the others as well.
FWIW, I have an A1 revision as well....
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I am having problems with UPnP and my Windows Home Server. The only version of firmware I didn't have problems with was 1.02. After a reboot of the router, the WHS is able to forward ports properly and everything works fine. The problem occurs after the routers is up for 24-72 hours. Port forwarding stops working and I get errors on my WHS. Nothing I do to the WHS will fix the issue, only a reboot to the router.
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Hey there,
I know it is a bit repetitive, and not sure if it helps, but I have captured the threads from both forums, and I was keen to check that the following sounds about right as a summary of the feedback?
I was going to go through the reported symptoms from the other thread when I get a chance too.
It would be great to hear an official comment on what Dlink thought that 1.16 had helped with?
List of reported faults: 1.15
* router resets and random disconnections from games.
* UPnP-related bugginess/multicasting issues
x can't make any changes without resetting the router.
x Port forwarding
x Connection drops
List of reported symtoms 1.16
* Report of slightly slower x3 reported
# Report of slower DNS resolution
* Higher rate of packets dropped over wireless on both 1.16 and 1.15 - It seems worse on the upload than the download (?) x 2 reported.
x my wireless performance has been very very flaky. Drops often.
* e-mail configuration still doesn't seem to support SSL authentication/security
x gaming, and port forwarding and dropped connections x1 report
* 3x reports of all good.
x I also couldn't access Wireless Security Setup Wizard or Add Wireless Device WITH WPS (WI-FI PROTECTED SETUP) Wizard. After I went back to 1.15 I could.
Not clear if there is a rollback from this firmware?
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1.16 Appears to have fixed:
*UPnP-related bugginess/multicasting issues
x Backupconfig too
x A rumor of DNS exploit that I am assuming was quietly patched in v1.12
FORUM COMMENTS FROM:
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* http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r21990140-DGL4500-116-Beta-Firmware-Released
x http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=4426.0
1.15 issues
x tielvej has the problem http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=2664.msg15904#msg15904
x kevinHsin has the problem http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=2870.0
Cheers,
ADSL Geek
http://www.adslgeek.com
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I have always maintained that a helpdesk should be there to help. I maintain this preposterous notion despite the commonly held belief they are there to blindly answer calls.
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Ru Fi Oh, and Lycan..any update???
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I just added the following in the list of reported symptoms on 1.16:
"There is evidence to suggest that 1.16 has a higher rate of packets dropped over wireless than 1.15".
Does this make sense too Reinvent3d? "It seems worse on the upload than the download"?
Would be really nice to have a comment from someone from Dlink? :-)
Cheers,
ADSL Geek
http://www.adslgeek.com
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I am having problems with UPnP and my Windows Home Server. The only version of firmware I didn't have problems with was 1.02. After a reboot of the router, the WHS is able to forward ports properly and everything works fine. The problem occurs after the routers is up for 24-72 hours. Port forwarding stops working and I get errors on my WHS. Nothing I do to the WHS will fix the issue, only a reboot to the router.
Interesting. Overall, UPnP support and functionality is drastically improved (repaired) in my usage and testing with 1.16, as it has corrected multicast/SSDP/SOAP support/behavior in the UPnP IGD stack. So far, all my UPnP IGD NAT Traversal enabled apps are able to communicate with the 4500 properly for mapping and unmapping port forwarding entries etc without any issue at all. Windows/Windows Live Messenger, Yahoo Messenger, AIM, WMP, uTorrent/BitTorrent, etc etc all have no issues etc. Additionally, my XBox 360 has a pretty static UPnP mapping with the 4500 and hasn't had any issues whatsoever making connections etc.
Additionally, the Windows UPnP IGD interface support is working properly again, as the previous 1.1x firmware broke this (due to the bugs in the multicast/SSDP/etc UPnP stack). This essentially means you will see the "Internet Gateway" listed in Network Connections again, and/or also showing in your systray as a connection icon (depending on your settings).
I do have a copy of WHS available, and if I have a chance, I'll load it into VPC and check out its UPnP communications to see what gives, if anything.
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Well I took a chance and flashed to this new fw and can only hope that it doesn't turn ******ed like the 1.15 fw did. I did enable the wireless on a sunday only schedule of 1 minute just in case that problem still exists with this version.
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So...I gave my serial number and all that...any update on this Lycan?
Still had horrible wireless drop outs.
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there were a series of units i had suspicions about a long time ago, but your serial doesn't fall in to that range.
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Well, that's good to know I guess.
The DIR-655 has a lot of different firmwares. How come us DGL-4500 owners can't get some too? Especially to fix some of these issues? We've all provided lots of feedback, and this last beta was datd from December. And before that, the 1.15 came out back during the summer almost. So, we are due for some new things...any word on new updates or heck, even fixes? or even a changelog for this last beta?
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Or better yet....
Release the FULL code to GPL so a version of DD-WRT (http://www.dd-wrt.com/dd-wrtv3/dd-wrt/hardware.html) can be written for it.
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Or better yet....
Release the FULL code to GPL so a version of DD-WRT (http://www.dd-wrt.com/dd-wrtv3/dd-wrt/hardware.html) can be written for it.
I don't think it's a matter of the code, but more-so the hardware....
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The DGL-4500 is a Ubicom platform. There will never be open source firmware available for it.
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Keeping in mind that I don't use the wireless at the moment I'd like to say that this beta fw seems to be working the best for me since 1.02. The gamefuel and application rules are working correctly for me and internet access seems to be responding faster than with the 1.12 fw I was using. I did enable the wireless on a schedule of 1 minute but do not use it otherwise. My kids haven't complained and I never told them about the change which is a good thing. When I tried 1.15 they were whining right away about how slow the internet was.
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Okay...
We still haven't seen a changelog for 1.16. On top of that, I'm still having HORRIBLE disconnect problems from games. Ports are forwarded correctly, and STILL lots of issues. NAT filtering is set to Endpoint Independent, and STILL having connection problems for Warcraft 3, and OTHER games as well.
I've yet to get ANY response on this from you guys. For stuff that worked WELL on my 4300, when set to Port and Address Restricted as well, this is getting just ridiculous.
So, fix this! The DIR-655 gets so many firmware updates for those problems, but because you guys can't do proper testing or ANYTHING, we've yet to see 1 single update. Only this beta which was from BEFORE the New Year. And BEFORE that, we had 1 update, and that was further back during the summer months of maybe July?
What gives you guys? Fix ALL of these problems!
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From the looks of things as we see in this thread and as we've been told previously, Ubicom seems to be the problem.
D-Link has their hands tied trying to get anything out of Ubicom.
I say that Ubicom ought to be held responsible to fix this and for future Routers D-Link ought to Drop Ubicom like a Hot Potato.
BTW Reinvented.......
It looks like the forum filters failed this time around. :o ;D
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From the looks of things as we see in this thread and as we've been told previously, Ubicom seems to be the problem.
D-Link has their hands tied trying to get anything out of Ubicom.
I say that Ubicom ought to be held responsible to fix this and for future Routers D-Link ought to Drop Ubicom like a Hot Potato.
BTW Reinvented.......
It looks like the forum filters failed this time around. :o ;D
Shhh...I know! ;)
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Reinvented we are working on a code release, I just can't give a date as to when.
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Reinvented we are working on a code release, I just can't give a date as to when.
Finally, some decent news!
I have in the meantime rolled back to the 1.15 code. Wireless is a bit more stable for me, and I can actually hit my download marks consistently. I do hope that I can get these things improved on a lot more. It's an okay product, but after some of these last updates, it's gotten really sloppy and things have gone untested, even with our feedback.
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looks as though reinvented has finally had enough?
If it's Ubicom's fault and Dlink knows about it, then how about a new product that works and require us to send in our "defective" dgl-4500s?
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Who said it's ubicoms fault?
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Who said it's ubicoms fault?
I don't think they understand exactly what's going on...
They seem to be under the impression that since Ubicom is the holder of the code, that they don't fix it, and release it for the routers of yours...since it's theirs.
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I wood like see more support four IPv6.
Supports up to 12K Jumbo Frames.
Bandwidth Management: Allow multiple network activities (FTP, Game, P2P…) to work smoothly at the same time.
Device discovery.
Save/restore configuration files.
Intrusion detection including logging.
Logging: Dropped packet, security event, Syslog.
Filtering: Port, IP packet, URL Keyword, MAC address.
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I wood like see more support four IPv6.
Supports up to 12K Jumbo Frames.
Bandwidth Management: Allow multiple network activities (FTP, Game, P2P…) to work smoothly at the same time.
Device discovery.
Save/restore configuration files.
Intrusion detection including logging.
Logging: Dropped packet, security event, Syslog.
Filtering: Port, IP packet, URL Keyword, MAC address.
Err...I think you meant to post this in the suggestion area. In fact, some of your suggestions are ALREADY in the router. But, some of the stuff you are asking for do NOT belong in a gaming/home class router, but more so an enterprise.
In fact, this router has absolutely NO support for IPv6. And Jumbo frames do not work too well on home devices. Doesn't make much sense to use it unless it's a huge building with multiple levels and you need to distribute information quickly and efficiently. Even Lycan has said it...Jumbo frames won't make a difference.
Bandwidth management is already there...it's called QoS. I don't have any problems gaming and using FTP or P2P at all.
Device discovery is there too...it's called UPnP. ;)
Those last suggestions you made, even the saving of config files is ALL here too...even the ones below that!
But again, it's an enterprise class device you are looking at more-so, than the DGL routers.
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Amen, Reinvented. I bought this router because I had several years of trusted service from my DGL-4300 - and I still love some of the advanced features it has.
I send hourly reports to DShield.org from my syslogs using Kiwi Syslogd and the DShield client from my main machine, running Windows 7 (and using a Task Scheduler item to automate the process) and could not be happier - all intrusion attempts are not only logged and filed away for the last 3 years but *also* reported to DShield for IP and port analysis.
But, since I have only had my router for 2 months, and have been using nothing but the 1.15 firmware since I bought it and updated the FW, I haven't had a chance to check out the 1.16b3. TBH, I don't use wireless very much (although with the laptop also running W7 now it is a lot more fun as it has Wireless N Draft 2 native) but whenever I have it has seemed to be rock solid. I don't game much online either, but looking at my stats I see 0 dropped packets since I last reset about 3 weeks ago....
Is it worthwhile for me to even bother with the 1.6b3 at all? I know I posted before that I would, but a lot of things came up in between....
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The Firmware works well for me so far, although, I hope to see a final release soon.
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Lycan, when is this garbage going to be fixed? No matter what, Battle.net games disconnect like crazy. My connection is fine. Router firmware is the problem..
Endpoint independent does nothing really. Doesn't even help the problem. Fix this!
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I think they must be running gunshy after the 1.10 debacle and the rush to fix it. 1.15 and the 1.16 beta are usable despite the sticky problems. Hopefullly they are trying to get 1.16 right before they it. I just hope it happens before I die...